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Dude653

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Re: Antifa Much?

I hold the opposite view, however I don't "despise" people who choose to vaccinate
(infect) their children and willingly risk harming or killing them in the process.
They're you're children, and you should have the
right to decide what you believe is best for them.
No doubt that if you could, you would have me forced into your eugenical
culture of pseudoscience, which puts you into the bigoted liberal fascist camp.
Unvaccinated children are a public health hazard. Also it infuriates me that people put their children's health at risk over a superstitious fear and vaccines
 
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GaryA

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Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

Unvaccinated children are a public health hazard. Also it infuriates me that people put their children's health at risk over a superstitious fear and vaccines
Unvaccinated children have better immune systems, live longer happier lives, and are in no way a public health hazard.

It is not superstition; rather, it is bona fide indisputable proven scientific fact. You are just not "well read" enough...

You have been drinking the illuminati kool-aid - and, swallowing everything else they have been feeding you, too.
 
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SHILL WARNING: Have You Ever Noticed...

Whenever a controversial topic is posted, certain individuals will post inflammatory/derogatory comments regarding the intelligence (or lack thereof) of the OP or other posters. They will also voice their opinions endlessly, opinions that often have little to no merit.

What is the effect? The real information is bumped further down the list and buried in a huge mess of arguments and debate.

Interacting or defending yourself from people (or shills) who ridicule you just furthers their cause/mission which is to DISTRACT YOU (AND OTHERS) FROM THE TRUTH.

This is the modus operandi of shills.

(Shill: 1. an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others. 2. A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services.)

As Christians, I do not believe we should gossip or take part in argumentative conversation...and we certainly should not resort to petty name calling and labeling others unjustly. CC has private messaging capability, there is no reason to argue in an informational thread.

Matthew 18:15 "If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.

How is it that so many 'Christians' do this? I'll refer you to my signature...Christian Is As Christian Does.

If you want the informational posts to be seen, then don't add to the distraction. Post informative evidences. Some of the posters here at CC are doing a great job in bringing the light of truth to various topics and I applaud their efforts. I've learned many things from various individuals here at CC, and I've also had my posts flamed and been reduced to tears, sometimes to the point of leaving and giving up trying. This is what they want...to discredit and demoralize (read silence) people.

This network is on the front-lines of the spiritual battle that is raging throughout the world we live in. The Powers That Be know that CC is a great place to promote disinformation and corrupt the next generation of Christians. They are going to do everything in their power to distract and cloud the truth, and in so doing, corrupt and drive away countless of our brothers and sisters in Christ. I have left several times to regain my own sanity, and I've also had dear friends give up and leave permanently.

Another aspect I've noticed here and in other forums is the good cop/bad cop routine. Two shills will argue with each other. One will play the good cop, the other will play the bad cop. The good cop will post popular and widely accepted informational truths, and here and there the good cop will debate and argue in someone else's thread...in essence distracting and bumping the real information into a pile of argumentative drivel. The good cop may have a high reputation score and may post or comment on many Spiritual/Biblical topics, however, I'll refer you to...

Matthew 7:16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

This is called CONTROLLED OPPOSITION. If you want to control truthers, start a truth movement. If you want to control patriots, start a Tea Party movement.

Another way to spot shills very easily is to look at the DATE JOINED, and the NUMBER OF POSTS. Do a little arithmetic and divide the number of posts by the number of days they are members. You'll find that some posters are extremely prolific yet they present very little real evidence, but instead post endless speculations, distracting, ridiculing, etc.

It's very easy to spot shills once you know what to look for. I advise everyone here, if you care about the truth seeing the light of day, do not interact with shills. You're just helping them do their job. Recognize them for what they are and pray for them because they are in the same world-of-hurt that we are, the only difference between truthers and shills is that they don't know it yet. The establishment takes no prisoners. The Powers That Be will chew them up and spit them out just as quickly as they would us. Shills are not, nor will they ever be Black Nobility, and as much as they try to earn brownie points and work themselves up the ladder of success, it will never be. They will have to watch their children dying of cancers/diseases/wars the same as the rest of us. (Shills Take Note)


John 13:34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

Matthew 5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

Matthew 5:39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.

I recently posted this video in my Red Cry thread, I'll post it again here...I believe the topic of forgiveness needs to be embraced by all who would walk the walk.

[video=youtube;DnBWEBt7nk0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnBWEBt7nk0[/video]



Apologies to the OP for posting off-topic information, but I'm seeing a certain recurring pattern developing in this thread.


Peace.
 

Dude653

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

Unvaccinated children have better immune systems, live longer happier lives, and are in no way a public health hazard.

It is not superstition; rather, it is bona fide indisputable proven scientific fact. You are just not "well read" enough...

You have been drinking the illuminati kool-aid - and, swallowing everything else they have been feeding you, too.
The Illuminati doesn't exist
And the anti-vax movement is all propaganda
 

Tommy379

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

Unvaccinated children have better immune systems, live longer happier lives, and are in no way a public health hazard.

It is not superstition; rather, it is bona fide indisputable proven scientific fact. You are just not "well read" enough...

You have been drinking the illuminati kool-aid - and, swallowing everything else they have been feeding you, too.
Do you have peer reviewed research documentation to back up this statement?
 

Tommy379

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

The Illuminati doesn't exist
And the anti-vax movement is all propaganda
Technically, most everything published dor public consumption is propaganda. It's the propagation of opinions.
 
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GaryA

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

The Illuminati doesn't exist
And the anti-vax movement is all propaganda
The Illuminati does exist -- by a different name, if you prefer. But, they do exist. They are the ones driving the "New World Order" -- in case you have heard someone mention it...?

Medical doctors have researched vaccines and found them to be incredibly and increasingly dangerous and detrimental to everyone - especially children and the aged.

Take a wild guess as to what has caused the recent-years explosion of childhood brain and mental "diseases" and "disorders" - and the proliferation of various forms of 'dementia'.
 
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GaryA

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

Do you have peer reviewed research documentation to back up this statement?
Absolutely - there is research documentation to back it up. The "peer-reviewed" part may or may not exist according to your definition. But then, "peer-reviewed" is not a requirement for truth. In an Illuminati-controlled world, it only means that it is something that they want you to accept as valid.

I looked this up from past posts. I modified some of the links ( back to the home page ) that no longer point to anything:

Russell Blaylock is probably the foremost authority on this topic. He has done extensive research on vaccines.
 

Tommy379

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

Absolutely - there is research documentation to back it up. The "peer-reviewed" part may or may not exist according to your definition. But then, "peer-reviewed" is not a requirement for truth. In an Illuminati-controlled world, it only means that it is something that they want you to accept as valid.

I looked this up from past posts. I modified some of the links ( back to the home page ) that no longer point to anything:


Russell Blaylock is probably the foremost authority on this topic. He has done extensive research on vaccines.
None of Dr. Blaylock's claims, are supported by any research using the scientific method.
 
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GaryA

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

None of Dr. Blaylock's claims, are supported by any research using the scientific method.
I have already given you my answer:

Russell Blaylock is probably the foremost authority on this topic. He has done extensive research on vaccines.
 

Dude653

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

Absolutely - there is research documentation to back it up. The "peer-reviewed" part may or may not exist according to your definition. But then, "peer-reviewed" is not a requirement for truth. In an Illuminati-controlled world, it only means that it is something that they want you to accept as valid.

I looked this up from past posts. I modified some of the links ( back to the home page ) that no longer point to anything:


Russell Blaylock is probably the foremost authority on this topic. He has done extensive research on vaccines.
False appeal to Authority fallacy
 

Tommy379

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If it wasn't for vaccines, people would still be dying of small pox in the western world.
 
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GaryA

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If it wasn't for vaccines, people would still be dying of small pox in the western world.
What, besides supposition, do you have to back that statement up with? :p



I never said that there has never-in-the-history-of-mankind been a worthwhile vaccine. However, I do strongly believe that most - and, probably all - of the modern vaccines contain things that are severely detrimental to the human brain.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

Absolutely - there is research documentation to back it up. The "peer-reviewed" part may or may not exist according to your definition. But then, "peer-reviewed" is not a requirement for truth. In an Illuminati-controlled world, it only means that it is something that they want you to accept as valid.
Probably for the first time since I've been a member here, I say this without trying to troll or to bait you into an argument:

People who argue against peer-reviewed literature being valid are demonstrating that they have never done research and couldn't tell good research from bad. Not everything is a conspiracy. The elegance of the peer-review process is that bad research never gets traction, and bad researchers are chewed up and crapped out of the process very early on. It is VERY difficult to get research published because of the review process prior to it even being accepted, not to mention the extremely rigorous critique it receives after it is published, especially if a piece of research challenges the status-quo of a particular discipline. "Thanks" to historical incidents like Nuremberg, the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, and others, the rigor of validating research prior to publication has been pretty much locked down. Sure, you get somebody every once in a while that creates their results out of thin air or doctors a study, but the truth always comes out eventually. Good research should be replicable, and doctored studies don't pass that particular muster.

I can guarantee with absolute certainty the Illuminati has no say whatsoever in what I research, how I write my results, or if it gets published. Along the same lines, we researchers don't hold secret meetings where we twist our mustaches and think of ways to keep the "dumb sheep" in the dark.
 
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GaryA

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Re: Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

Probably for the first time since I've been a member here, I say this without trying to troll or to bait you into an argument:
Nor do I wish to argue. Thank you for simply explaining your thoughts without hostility.


People who argue against peer-reviewed literature being valid are demonstrating that they have never done research and couldn't tell good research from bad. Not everything is a conspiracy. The elegance of the peer-review process is that bad research never gets traction, and bad researchers are chewed up and crapped out of the process very early on. It is VERY difficult to get research published because of the review process prior to it even being accepted, not to mention the extremely rigorous critique it receives after it is published, especially if a piece of research challenges the status-quo of a particular discipline. "Thanks" to historical incidents like Nuremberg, the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, and others, the rigor of validating research prior to publication has been pretty much locked down. Sure, you get somebody every once in a while that creates their results out of thin air or doctors a study, but the truth always comes out eventually. Good research should be replicable, and doctored studies don't pass that particular muster.
Truly, I can appreciate what you have said here. And, I understand how it is supposed to work. And, except-for-just-one-little-thing, it works wonderfully no doubt.


I can guarantee with absolute certainty the Illuminati has no say whatsoever in what I research, how I write my results, or if it gets published. Along the same lines, we researchers don't hold secret meetings where we twist our mustaches and think of ways to keep the "dumb sheep" in the dark.
I have to disagree with you here. In the "big picture", they can - and do - cause things to "conform" or "go away" - according to their pleasure - based on their agenda. I am not saying that they have 100% total control over everything. It is still possible to "get the truth out" to some extent. However, they do actually wield great power in the realm of things such as you describe above - and, maintain control over those things in ways people do not realize. No "peer-reviewed" research will survive unless they approve of it - unless it "fits" their agenda.
 

Dude653

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What, besides supposition, do you have to back that statement up with? :p



I never said that there has never-in-the-history-of-mankind been a worthwhile vaccine. However, I do strongly believe that most - and, probably all - of the modern vaccines contain things that are severely detrimental to the human brain.
The lack of smallpox
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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It's more likely that the general population is ignorant (not meant to be a dig against people) about what constitutes good research and what doesn't. Just like statistics given in news reports aren't worth a spit, but people don't know enough about statistics to ask "hey, wait a minute...how does a sample of 1000 people equal the opinion of 300,000,000?".

When pointing the finger at the man behind the curtain, three fingers are pointed back at you. If more people were a bit educated about what constitutes good science from bunk, and what makes a good and valid source of information, a lot of these debates would be stopped before they could even begin.
 

Dude653

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So - you believe that your immune system cannot possibly defend you against smallpox without a vaccine?
It didn't
Thus the need for the vaccination
 
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GaryA

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It's more likely that the general population is ignorant (not meant to be a dig against people) about what constitutes good research and what doesn't. Just like statistics given in news reports aren't worth a spit, but people don't know enough about statistics to ask "hey, wait a minute...how does a sample of 1000 people equal the opinion of 300,000,000?".

When pointing the finger at the man behind the curtain, three fingers are pointed back at you. If more people were a bit educated about what constitutes good science from bunk, and what makes a good and valid source of information, a lot of these debates would be stopped before they could even begin.
What the general population is "ignorant" about is the fact that very evil deeds are continuously being done "right in front of their faces" and "right under their noses" without them realizing it -- largely because they simply do not believe it can possibly be true - and, they are unwilling to open their eyes to see it.