Antichrist is NOT a person!

[garee]

Influencing yes, but not embodying. That Satan was there at that time is a given. But if he had taken over Peters body and mind, which Satan is NOT allowed to do without peters permission, the story would read differently from what it does.

From another standpoint. Lying spirts do not need permission to lie in order to cause a vision to appear as lying wonders (wonder )the faith principle.

Christ as the Son of man experienced a lying wonder brought by the father of lies, the god of this world. He did not ask permission but waited for an opportunity. Not eating can affect how a person thinks and therefore believes exercising working their faith out.


Some call it out of the body experience .But Christ did not move one inch from where he was standing either time. Both times the father of lies took him up as when he was shown all the kingdoms of this world and the glory of them .Over and over as it is written, cast out the lies. In that way it’s not what goes into a man’s thoughts but what comes out.

And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Mat 4:3

 

[garee]

Agreed. Certainly not a done deal that the microchip, that you buy and sell with, implanted in your hand, is THE mark of the beast. It very well could be something else. But that is a far cry from saying there will be no mark at all used for buying and selling.

Also, Scripture has multiple levels of application. Willie is right in saying the mark is Spiritual. But that does not negate that it will also be physical.

If it physical as that seen then every time we are required to apply the dividing principle between that seen and that not seen (the law of faith)

2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

The buying and selling has to do with spiritual truth hid from the lost, revealed to the new creatures. Cain sold his birth rite because he had a different chore that his brother who tended the sheep.He was walking by sight

Esau sold his because he had no interest in spiritual matters. They were both marked men .. 666 is the number of un converted mankind, as a beast of the field.(flesh and blood)

It has nothing to do with electronics as if we did walk by sight. The sign 666 is a sign that we observe not something we seek after as if we did walk by sight and not apply the prescription for finding the spiritual meaning and buying it..

 

[MaggieMye]

My. my, Maggie, kindly do not limit yourself to just these verses. Start with Revelation 13 and work your way backward to the book of Daniel. And pray tell, why can't a certain kind of spirit be embodied in a person? The Antichrist is the Arch-Blasphemer of God. Please note (Rev 20:10):

And [1] the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where [2] the beast and [3] the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

We are here presented with the UNHOLY TRINITY: (1) the Devil or Satan, (2) the Beast or the Antichrist (also called the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition), and (3) the False Prophet. All these are personal beings (the Devil a spirit being) and therefore all these can be -- and will be -- tormented eternally in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone (also known as eternal Hell).

A WARNING TO THOSE WHO PRESENT FALSE DOCTRINE: Kindly do your homework before misleading those who may be new to the faith or not familiar with Bible truth. And do not follow the doctrines of men, which are in fact the doctrines of devils.[/QUOTE

The human body cannot be be tortured forever and ever. It rots and blows away as dust. HOWEVER, demonic spirits can be!!
and kindly refrain from being condescending. Thanks.

 

[MaggieMye]

You are correct in that, the spirit of the antichrist has been in the world, for everyone who denies that Jesus is the Messiah is an antichrist. But "thee" antichrist is going to appear on the earth in conjunction with the end of the age. He would have to be an individual being in order for him to stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God and to also be thrown alive into the lake of fire.
[/QUOTE This has already been fulfilled. do the research and learn about John Levi and Ananus in 70 AD. John Levi proclaimed himself to be God and took over the temple. The temple has never been rebuilt.
And...if you did'nt notice..."anti-christ" is never capitalized as it would be if it were a person.

 

[Ahwatukee]

You are correct in that, the spirit of the antichrist has been in the world, for everyone who denies that Jesus is the Messiah is an antichrist. But "thee" antichrist is going to appear on the earth in conjunction with the end of the age. He would have to be an individual being in order for him to stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God and to also be thrown alive into the lake of fire.
[/QUOTE This has already been fulfilled. do the research and learn about John Levi and Ananus in 70 AD. John Levi proclaimed himself to be God and took over the temple. The temple has never been rebuilt.
And...if you did'nt notice..."anti-christ" is never capitalized as it would be if it were a person.

You're missing the point! The scripture states that "the two of them" are captured and are "thrown alive" into the lake of fire. Just this information alone demonstrates the antichrist/beast as being a person. In other scriptures he is referred to as that "eighth king." If you are a king, then you are a living being.

I assure you that the antichrist is coming and he will make a seven year covenant with Israel and God's wrath will follow via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgment just as it is written, leading up to the Lord's return to end the age which will usher in the millennial kingdom.

 

[iamsoandso]

Revelation 9:11 is a living being?

 

[Ahwatukee]

Revelation 9:11 is a living being?

Yes! He is the angel of the Abyss who once he comes up out of the Abyss will be the power behind the antichrist and is the same one who will kill two witnesses when he is released.

 

[iamsoandso]

Yes! He is the angel of the Abyss who once he comes up out of the Abyss will be the power behind the antichrist and is the same one who will kill two witnesses when he is released.

That seems odd, not the part whether he is a living being or not unless there is some scripture that supports it (you gave none), but that in the scriptures it states that he in Revelation 9:4 is only to hurt those who have the mark of the beast as if he is not hurting any of the ones who have the mark of God how do you access that he is the one who kills the two witnesses?

 

[Locutus]

I see the chipmunks are back..

 

[GaryA]

MaggieMye -- isn't this what you are actually driving at?

I guess not...

 

[iamsoandso]

I see the chipmunks are back..

It's the electronic thingy on your head in your avatar showing you an mirror image,lol transformer needs rewinding after over heating?,,,lol

 

[GaryA]

...how do you access that he is the one who kills the two witnesses?

access? assess?


Revelation 11:

[SUP]7[/SUP] And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

 

[iamsoandso]

access? assess?


Revelation 11:

[SUP]7[/SUP] And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

didn't look right when I used spell check ,,,you little booger,lol

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

I've often wondered why, since the Bible talks about both God and The Beast (or the A/C, or 666, or whoever you want it to be) putting their respective marks on both the hands and on the foreheads of their followers.... that only Satan's is a microchip. In every other way Satan seems to work through people's minds, emotions and thoughts, but all of a sudden his only influence has become through an electronic scanner?

A implanted micro chip does come from a mind without God.I honestly believe that the mark can be both spiritual and physical.Maybe the micro chip will change the DNA structure.The Lord does say the life is in the blood.Those who take the mark of the beast are those who don't take what the Two Witnesses have to say to heart.

 

[iamsoandso]

access? assess?


Revelation 11:

[SUP]7[/SUP] And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Curious question do you see that he is the same as the beast in Revelation 17;8?

 

[Willie-T]

Curious question do you see that he is the same as the beast in Revelation 17;8?

Very similar. And neither is a "he."

 

[Locutus]

It's the electronic thingy on your head in your avatar showing you an mirror image,lol transformer needs rewinding after over heating?,,,lol

You're more of a squirrel soandso bringing the old nuts out of storage..

 

[iamsoandso]

You're more of a squirrel soandso bringing the old nuts out of storage..

my avatar,,,should have looked close at it...

 

[GaryA]

Curious question do you see that he is the same as the beast in Revelation 17;8?

Well, of course. In both places it is being described as "the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit" ( slightly different wording, but same idea ). How many times do you think that will happen? It seems reasonable that in both places it is referring to the same thing.

 

[iamsoandso]

Well, of course. In both places it is being described as "the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit" ( slightly different wording, but same idea ). How many times do you think that will happen? It seems reasonable that in both places it is referring to the same thing.

hmm,then he is the eighth Revelation 17:11 ?...