Dwight Pentecost claims Gentiles will be Israel's servants during Millennium

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Locutus

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Author and teacher at the Dallas Theological Seminary Dispensationalist Dwight Pentecost stated that Gentiles will be Israel's servants during the supposed Millennium and that the division between Gentile and Jews will be reinstated negating the Cross of Christ:


When Ezekiel’s visions shall be accomplished, it will be the reign of Jehovah-Jesus on earth, and the distinction of Israel from the Gentiles will again be resumed, though for blessing under the new covenant, not as of old for curse under the law…


The Gentiles will be Israel’s servants during that age (Isa. 14:1-2; 49:22-23; 60:14; 61:5; Zech. 8:22-23). The nations which usurped authority over Israel in past ages find that downtrodden people exalted and themselves in subjection in their kingdom. The Gentiles that are in the millennium will have experienced conversion prior to admission

Pentecost, J. Dwight. Things to Come: A Study in Biblical Eschatology (Kindle Locations 9153-9154). Zondervan. Kindle Edition.

So what do you think of this "theology"?
 
SovereignGrace

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Pure hyper-dispensational drivel. That's what I think about it.
 
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The likes of Pentecost, Scofield, Darby, et al are so anti-gentile its sickening.

#Haveyoukissedajew?
 
JaumeJ

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This Dwight should read all of the Word.......
 
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.......forward to back
 
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I posted in this manner because the OP gives the impression Israel is something other than the Israel of God, that is to say, all who believe Him are Israel, the Israel of God.



JaumeJ said:
This Dwight should read all of the Word.......
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That is the mentality of the disobedient... GOD be thanked He took His Vine from them.

I will serve GOD and the Messiah for eternity but as for playing along with the disobedient and their plan to enforce their birth right, which is not how they perceive it.. because GOD made a New Covenant and those married to the Old trying to revive will also have to believe to be Grafted in. I read last night John tell them not to think they have Abraham their Father for GOD can raise up children of the stones to Abraham.. not to boast because all things come to pass but those that seek power and glory for themselves receive not the Kingdom of GOD.
 
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Locutus said:
Author and teacher at the Dallas Theological Seminary Dispensationalist Dwight Pentecost stated that Gentiles will be Israel's servants during the supposed Millennium and that the division between Gentile and Jews will be reinstated negating the Cross of Christ:


When Ezekiel’s visions shall be accomplished, it will be the reign of Jehovah-Jesus on earth, and the distinction of Israel from the Gentiles will again be resumed, though for blessing under the new covenant, not as of old for curse under the law…


The Gentiles will be Israel’s servants during that age (Isa. 14:1-2; 49:22-23; 60:14; 61:5; Zech. 8:22-23). The nations which usurped authority over Israel in past ages find that downtrodden people exalted and themselves in subjection in their kingdom. The Gentiles that are in the millennium will have experienced conversion prior to admission

Pentecost, J. Dwight. Things to Come: A Study in Biblical Eschatology (Kindle Locations 9153-9154). Zondervan. Kindle Edition.

So what do you think of this "theology"?
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everything in red is what you are quoting from Dwight J. Pentecost?
 
iamsoandso

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Yes, I don't like using the quote feature because of the Italicization.
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The scriptures in his quote did they already take place or are they taking place or do you think they already took place(fulfilled) if they already took place when?
 
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Locutus said:
Author and teacher at the Dallas Theological Seminary Dispensationalist Dwight Pentecost stated that Gentiles will be Israel's servants during the supposed Millennium and that the division between Gentile and Jews will be reinstated negating the Cross of Christ:


When Ezekiel’s visions shall be accomplished, it will be the reign of Jehovah-Jesus on earth, and the distinction of Israel from the Gentiles will again be resumed, though for blessing under the new covenant, not as of old for curse under the law…


The Gentiles will be Israel’s servants during that age (Isa. 14:1-2; 49:22-23; 60:14; 61:5; Zech. 8:22-23). The nations which usurped authority over Israel in past ages find that downtrodden people exalted and themselves in subjection in their kingdom. The Gentiles that are in the millennium will have experienced conversion prior to admission

Pentecost, J. Dwight. Things to Come: A Study in Biblical Eschatology (Kindle Locations 9153-9154). Zondervan. Kindle Edition.

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its teaching like this makes me feel like a second class citizen like an alien in the faith......... but look at those verses they do teach that.......
maybe its right that the millennial is in heaven who has thought of that???? some theologian think about this:

Zec 6:13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

so look it says he will be a priest upon his throne. where is Jesus' throne and where is He a priest u see?

Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

in heaven is the throne. so Jesus will be a priest on His throne, and His throne is in heaven, now it gets interesting because it also says if Jesus was on earth he can no longer be a priest:

Heb 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

but Jesus is a priest forever:

Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

dont get mad at me and take what i say as teaching im just pointing out something and asking the more laerned folks in the Lord to comment on how they feel about this u see. and see if someone else has noticed this.
 
Locutus

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iamsoandso said:
The scriptures in his quote did they already take place or are they taking place or do you think they already took place(fulfilled) if they already took place when?
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We'll have to look at each one individually sosandso - but that usually leads to quoting other related scriptures that widens the scope.
 
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dont get mad at me and take what i say as teaching im just pointing out something and asking the more laerned folks in the Lord to comment on how they feel about this u see. and see if someone else has noticed this.
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You brought up some valid issues there Mon. We can get into this as the thread develops.
 
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I have seen some really dumb threads but this one is certainly rising to the top of the list.

All the nations will be required to come up to Jerusalem one time a year and sacrifice. Jesus is on the throne of David and ruling the earth at this time. Those who refuse to come will see no rain until they do.

We are to serve the Lord now and He is Jewish by ethnicity.

The spirit evidenced here in the OP is the same spirit that will lead the worldwide revolt against Christ at the end of the millennium.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
Locutus

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Let's try and stick to evaluating the claims made by Dwight Pentecost in his book Roger, that is the point of the thread.
 
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Let's try and stick to evaluating the claims made by Dwight Pentecost in his book Roger, that is the point of the thread.
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The only thing you are doing in this thread is assassinating the character of a man of God in Dwight Pentecost.

2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

Paul took a dim view of such things.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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More from Dwight Pentecost in regards to the New Covenant:

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By way of summary, it may be said that as far as the Old Testament teaching on the new covenant is concerned, the covenant was made with the Jewish people. Its period of fulfillment is yet future beginning when the Deliverer shall come and continuing throughout all eternity. Its provisions for the nation Israel are glorious, and they all rest and depend on the very Word of God.1

Pentecost, J. Dwight. Things to Come: A Study in Biblical Eschatology (Kindle Locations 2249-2252). Zondervan. Kindle Edition.

End of Quote.

It in the above Pentecost looks to be claiming the New Covenant is not in effect. It could be argued that he is speaking of the fulfillment rather than when it started
 
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