Space Exploration. Fact Or Fiction? (And Other Thoughts!)

[Phreebird_1225]

I say that because i believe that God created us to survive,like when someone falls out of a plane falls X distance to the ground and survives or many other unpleasant examples of people being horribly injured yet surviving to me these are proof of God creating us to survive.

Im not talking scripture,there are many quantifiable examples of the resiliency that God created us with,if you take this line of thought to the next level past the individual to the species (surviving) there is only one place to go for us to survive.

Away from here (earth)and there is only one way off this planet.

Why do mainstream Christians believe they leave the earth? Yes, your spirit goes back to God at death, and your soul rests in the ground until the ressurection. There are only two resurrections, one for the elect if God, and the second to judgement. Those in Christ will inherit the earth. The Kingdom of God is to come. This is the Grace of God and the good news about the gospel of The Kingdom of God. To repent, and turn to God, then people were baptised. The message shared by Jesus to all, and he said this is why he was sent by God. Jesus's main gospel message is very seldom if ever shared. Acceptance, and understanding of Jesus's death came second to the message about the Kingdom of God. Sorry in advance if I make people mad. This is the way I have read and understand the bible.

 

[PoxEclipse]

NASA = Nasha?

I just saw a video claiming that NASA means 'to deceive' in Hebrew...so I did a little research...

Hebrew word Nasha is Strong's H5377 and means to lead astray, to delude, bequile, to deceive, to seduce.

I realize that it's not the exact same word, however, the 'Shock And Awe' campaign in Iraq was also similar to the word Shekinah.
Coincidence?


[video=youtube;auik4D1yIAY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auik4D1yIAY[/video]


I don't know what to believe anymore. Considering what I know about NASA and the CIA, it wouldn't surprise me if they flaunted their agenda for all to see. It seems that more and more often The Powers That Be don't even bother to cover their tracks. Once you own the legislators and the courts, who is left to prosecute you for wrong doing?


Al Pacino who portrayed John Milton/Lucifer in the movie Devil's Advocate said it best...

John Milton: "Because the law, my boy, puts us into everything. It's the ultimate backstage pass; it's the new priesthood, baby. Did you know there are more students in law school than there are lawyers walking the Earth? We're coming out, guns blazing! The two of you, all of us, acquittal after acquittal after acquittal...until the stench of it reaches so high and far into heaven, it chokes the whole lot of them."

Scribes, Sanhedrin, Pharisees, Sadducees...or...Executive, Legislative, Judicial branches (with their attending clerks)? They are strangely similar organizations wouldn't you say? They predominantly deal with LAW, RULES, REGULATIONS, PENALTIES.
In essence, they both are governing bodies that dictate...how to be a proper slave and serve society? I don't know...it's just a thought.

Bible Search: law


And on a side note...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekhinah

The Shekhina(h) (also spelled Shekina(h), Schechina(h), or Shechina(h)) (Biblical Hebrew: שכינה‎‎) is the English transliteration of a Hebrew word meaning "dwelling" or "settling" and denotes the dwelling or settling of the divine presence of God. The Shekhinah is the feminine aspect of Divinity, also referred to as the Divine Presence. [SUP][1][/SUP][SUP]:231[/SUP]

This term does not occur in the Bible, and is from rabbinic literature.



To those who don't know about Shekinah, the following video is a semi-informative introduction...

Disclaimer: It's very likely that Brother Nathanael is a paid shill employed to stir up hate against Israeli's (though he is purportedly of Jewish descent himself), however, the truth remains the truth...

Is this the truth? I really don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ


Peace.

 

[Dude653]

Re: NASA = Nasha?

I just saw a video claiming that NASA means 'to deceive' in Hebrew...so I did a little research...

Hebrew word Nasha is Strong's H5377 and means to lead astray, to delude, bequile, to deceive, to seduce.

I realize that it's not the exact same word, however, the 'Shock And Awe' campaign in Iraq was also similar to the word Shekinah.
Coincidence?


[video=youtube;auik4D1yIAY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auik4D1yIAY[/video]


I don't know what to believe anymore. Considering what I know about NASA and the CIA, it wouldn't surprise me if they flaunted their agenda for all to see. It seems that more and more often The Powers That Be don't even bother to cover their tracks. Once you own the legislators and the courts, who is left to prosecute you for wrong doing?


Al Pacino who portrayed John Milton/Lucifer in the movie Devil's Advocate said it best...

John Milton: "Because the law, my boy, puts us into everything. It's the ultimate backstage pass; it's the new priesthood, baby. Did you know there are more students in law school than there are lawyers walking the Earth? We're coming out, guns blazing! The two of you, all of us, acquittal after acquittal after acquittal...until the stench of it reaches so high and far into heaven, it chokes the whole lot of them."

Scribes, Sanhedrin, Pharisees, Sadducees...or...Executive, Legislative, Judicial branches (with their attending clerks)? They are strangely similar organizations wouldn't you say? They predominantly deal with LAW, RULES, REGULATIONS, PENALTIES.
In essence, they both are governing bodies that dictate...how to be a proper slave and serve society? I don't know...it's just a thought.

Bible Search: law


And on a side note...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekhinah

The Shekhina(h) (also spelled Shekina(h), Schechina(h), or Shechina(h)) (Biblical Hebrew: שכינה‎‎) is the English transliteration of a Hebrew word meaning "dwelling" or "settling" and denotes the dwelling or settling of the divine presence of God. The Shekhinah is the feminine aspect of Divinity, also referred to as the Divine Presence. [SUP][1][/SUP][SUP]:231[/SUP]

This term does not occur in the Bible, and is from rabbinic literature.



To those who don't know about Shekinah, the following video is a semi-informative introduction...

Disclaimer: It's very likely that Brother Nathanael is a paid shill employed to stir up hate against Israeli's (though he is purportedly of Jewish descent himself), however, the truth remains the truth...

Is this the truth? I really don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ


Peace.

Jesus and cheeses sounds similar to but I won't be worshiping a slice of Velveeta anytime soon.

 

[Lynx]

HA! Even if Jesus and cheeses were much more similar, velveeta ain't real cheese.

Now THERE'S a conspiracy for you. How did they get americans to eat something and call it "cheese" when it is so far from what real cheese is?

Put that alongside the fast "food" conspiracy and the instant "pudding" conspiracy. All are pale imitations of the real things, but they have been advertised and pushed for so long that people have gotten used to thinking of them as real food.

 

[tanakh]

In the UK PC can mean Police Constable, Personal Computer and Politically Correct. Is there a diabolical plot behind this and what does PC mean in Hebrew if anything? NASA is not a word its an Acronym. I have just thought of one GAL. It could mean slang for a young woman. On the other hand it could mean GET A LIFE

 

[oldethennew]

this just made me think of when we were both real young, the t-wee and newspapers
were telling everyone that they were just exploring and 'getting off' with the 'Outer Space Program',
and then on the 'bube-tube', they were playing tv shows that depicted the future with
'outer space exploration' and 'space travel',,,
we both remember those shows very well...they were 'very entertaining, and we see now, they
were planting seeds of corruption, trying to interfere with God's plans at every corner...
and oh those sci-fi novels/movies,,,tsk,tsk,,,,,seems like we're living 'someone's else's fantasy dreams
and imitations of how our lives should really be and what we should really be doing/thinking?!?...

in our house, we both only desire to serve Jesus and obey His every Command...

for those who seek another way, you are in our prayers...

 

[Elijah101]

The sky above the space of air is water. The sun causes it to appear blue because it is water that controls the reaction of the suns heat. Nuclear reactions use water to control them this is in fact a small mimicking of Gods sun. They used water for a reason and have lied to you for a reason.

Below is the purpose of the global Nasa lie. It explains why Satan has used Nasa to deceive you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKAnNMyIYU

Elijah

 

[PoxEclipse]

The First Picture Of Earth?

Every so often I find one of these jewels...this is supposedly from 1966.


[video=youtube;_9PDTrTjBCU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9PDTrTjBCU[/video]


THE FIRST OFFICIAL PICTURE OF EARTH FROM SPACE...or is the narrator lying?

 

[Oncefallen]

In the UK PC can mean Police Constable, Personal Computer and Politically Correct. Is there a diabolical plot behind this and what does PC mean in Hebrew if anything? NASA is not a word its an Acronym. I have just thought of one GAL. It could mean slang for a young woman. On the other hand it could mean GET A LIFE

Of course someone from the UK would never think that it is also the abbreviation for gallon.

 

[GaryA]

In the UK PC can mean Police Constable, Personal Computer and Politically Correct. Is there a diabolical plot behind this and what does PC mean in Hebrew if anything? NASA is not a word its an Acronym. I have just thought of one GAL. It could mean slang for a young woman. On the other hand it could mean GET A LIFE

Actually, 'gal' can be attributed to a woman of any age. At least, in the U.S.A. it is...

Of course someone from the UK would never think that it is also the abbreviation for gallon.

GAL => "A gallon-sized woman who needs to get a life..."

 

[posthuman]

Given

A

Life

 

[Dude653]

Stuff like this works maybe because it makes people think Christians are complete lunatics. It's not helpful

 

[PoxEclipse]

"Air Bubbles In Space?" or "Liquid Leaks?"

There are other videos showing air bubbles during spacewalks on YouTube. Some rise to the top of the screen. Some rise to the right or left (easily accomplished by changing camera angle 90 degrees right or left to shift rising patterns). It seems to me, in this particular offering, the camera angle would be at approximately 45 degrees down angle from the top of the pool facing the ISS. The airlock hatch would be facing the top of the pool.

Beginning at 0:40 seconds there seems to be a large number of bubbles floating up.

At 2:00 through 2:04 there seems to be something coming into view on the bottom left inside the airlock. Some have speculated that this is a scuba tank.

One official explanation is that the bubbles are droplets of liquid leaking from the ISS. China seems to have the same leaking issue as well.

But why are the droplets of liquid all going in the same general direction, and from different parts of the ISS? And why do they bounce about while going in a general direction as if carried/blown by water currents/jets in a pool? It seems to me that once a droplet of liquid leaks in space, it would travel in a straight line and not change direction. Bubbles behave differently, especially if you take into account that water jets in a pool environment help simulate a weightlessness effect. Example, a carabiner attached to a suit in a pool would still be affected by gravity and hang motionless on a spacesuit belt, if you introduce water jets and strong currents, you can simulate a waving/weightless effect.

Draw your own conclusions.

[video=youtube;8IqhMaFE4EI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IqhMaFE4EI[/video]


Peace.

 

[Dude653]

And what would be their motive for faking the moon landing? I guess they were just bored or something

 

[PoxEclipse]

"Columbia External Tank Bubbles?" or "Oops, Cut Away Quick!"

And what would be their motive for faking the moon landing? I guess they were just bored or something

"Between 1959 and 1973 NASA spent $23.6 billion on human spaceflight, exclusive of infrastructure and support, of which nearly $20 billion was for Apollo.36 In addition, Webb sought to expand the definition of Project Apollo beyond just the mission of landing humans on the Moon."

"And using 2010 dollars give us $109 billion. We thus could say that the Apollo program cost $20 billion in then-year dollars, $30 billion in 1970s dollars, or $110 billion in today's money."

"NASA's FY 2011 budget of $18.4 billion represented about 0.5% of the $3.4 trillion United States federal budget during that year, or about 35% of total spending on academic scientific research in the United States."

"For 2016, the NASA budget is $19.3 billion, out of $3.95 trillion in federal spending."


For a complete NASA budget listing from 1958 to present...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA#Annual_budget

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/feb/01/nasa-budgets-us-spending-space-travel


In 1965-1966 the NASA budget was 4% of Federal spending!


"The Obama Administration just announced its budget proposal for the 2012 fiscal year: The total budget is $3.73 trillion, and $18.7 billion of that will go to funding NASA. But how much are you, personally, contributing to space exploration?

We did the math, and it turns out that a little more than half a penny of every federal tax dollar ends up at NASA. That means that a family with the median household income ($49,777 according to the U.S. Census Bureau), which pays $6,629 of federal taxes, pays the space agency ... $33."

https://www.space.com/10849-nasa-budget-contribute.html


Every family with a median income is required to pay $33/year to be lied to...this doesn't take into account the associated pollution caused by the space program over the years.


If world hunger could be ended with $30 billion/year...why is the American taxpayer paying two thirds of the hunger budget for this CGI tripe?

UN says solving food crisis could cost $30 billion - The New York Times


At 40 seconds you'll notice what appear to be air bubbles rising, these bubbles continue and become more numerous until at 1 minute and 5 seconds NASA cuts away (switches feeds to the shuttle bay interior for a few moments) while they fix the problem.

[video=youtube;EZz5KC_4j_s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZz5KC_4j_s[/video]


George Carlin has a semi-amusing piece on NASA, however, I won't be posting a link here as it is laced with colorful metaphors. Should you wish to view it, simply type in "George Carlin NASA" in a YouTube search window. George has a certain perspective, that, while offensive to some, is strangely refreshing...plain truth in a world of lies.

Would you prefer a pretty lie, or an ugly truth?


Peace.

 

[Dude653]

Re: "Columbia External Tank Bubbles?" or "Oops, Cut Away Quick!"

"Between 1959 and 1973 NASA spent $23.6 billion on human spaceflight, exclusive of infrastructure and support, of which nearly $20 billion was for Apollo.36 In addition, Webb sought to expand the definition of Project Apollo beyond just the mission of landing humans on the Moon."

"And using 2010 dollars give us $109 billion. We thus could say that the Apollo program cost $20 billion in then-year dollars, $30 billion in 1970s dollars, or $110 billion in today's money."

"NASA's FY 2011 budget of $18.4 billion represented about 0.5% of the $3.4 trillion United States federal budget during that year, or about 35% of total spending on academic scientific research in the United States."

"For 2016, the NASA budget is $19.3 billion, out of $3.95 trillion in federal spending."


For a complete NASA budget listing from 1958 to present...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA#Annual_budget

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/feb/01/nasa-budgets-us-spending-space-travel


In 1965-1966 the NASA budget was 4% of Federal spending!


"The Obama Administration just announced its budget proposal for the 2012 fiscal year: The total budget is $3.73 trillion, and $18.7 billion of that will go to funding NASA. But how much are you, personally, contributing to space exploration?

We did the math, and it turns out that a little more than half a penny of every federal tax dollar ends up at NASA. That means that a family with the median household income ($49,777 according to the U.S. Census Bureau), which pays $6,629 of federal taxes, pays the space agency ... $33."

https://www.space.com/10849-nasa-budget-contribute.html


Every family with a median income is required to pay $33/year to be lied to...this doesn't take into account the associated pollution caused by the space program over the years.


If world hunger could be ended with $30 billion/year...why is the American taxpayer paying two thirds of the hunger budget for this CGI tripe?

UN says solving food crisis could cost $30 billion - The New York Times


At 40 seconds you'll notice what appear to be air bubbles rising, these bubbles continue and become more numerous until at 1 minute and 5 seconds NASA cuts away (switches feeds to the shuttle bay interior for a few moments) while they fix the problem.

[video=youtube;EZz5KC_4j_s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZz5KC_4j_s[/video]


George Carlin has a semi-amusing piece on NASA, however, I won't be posting a link here as it is laced with colorful metaphors. Should you wish to view it, simply type in "George Carlin NASA" in a YouTube search window. George has a certain perspective, that, while offensive to some, is strangely refreshing...plain truth in a world of lies.

Would you prefer a pretty lie, or an ugly truth?


Peace.

Cool story
Still didn't answer my question

 

[PoxEclipse]

The Human Space Travel Show 1959-2017

Cool story
Still didn't answer my question

This is a VERY COMPREHENSIVE website dealing with NASA's deception. There are A LOT of new factoids that I was unaware of on this page. If you're curious about NASA and their deceptions, this is a great piece of journalistic commentary and you're sure to learn something if you read it.

Human travel in space is not possible - 23�September, 2017

Disclaimer, sadly, these days, very little that I've seen or read is 100% truth. I've spotted at least one factoid in Anders Bjorkman's commentary/research that I don't agree with...however, taken as a whole, this site is very informative.


Additionally, I performed a brief search on Bjorkman to see what I could find. He replies in post #12 to his challenge. I didn't read further as I have my own understandings of reality that conflict with his. The key word in his challenge is realistic.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62555.0

Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2015, 11:51:15 PM »

"I haven't seen any results of any simulations of any kind so far. To win my Challenge you must show that your figures and descriptions are complete and realistic.

If the simulations, e.g. include a 357.5 seconds blast to produce 97 400 N thrust, burning 10 898 kg of fuel, to get backwards into orbit around the fast moving Moon (in order not to crash on it or miss it) that orbits Earth that orbits the Sun at great speed, the description must also include in what direction the thrust was applied, by whom it was done and how, etc. How was the steering jets controlled so that the rocket thrust was applied in exactly the right direction. I am also interested in how the fuel pump was driven to pump 31 kg/s fuel to the rocket engine. Electric? From where? Batteries? And at what pressure was the fuel injected? It seems quite complicated to manually steer a spacecraft into Moon orbit and I haven't seen, as said above, any realistic simulations or descriptions of it. The 1969 NASA + Buzz descriptions are a little vague, to say the least. You have to perform better to win my Challenge."


One more thing, if you're really interested in the truth, look into the Space X program. A simple Google search..."Space X hoax" will get you started.


Peace.

 

[Dude653]

Re: The Human Space Travel Show 1959-2017

This is a VERY COMPREHENSIVE website dealing with NASA's deception. There are A LOT of new factoids that I was unaware of on this page. If you're curious about NASA and their deceptions, this is a great piece of journalistic commentary and you're sure to learn something if you read it.

Human travel in space is not possible - 23�September, 2017

Disclaimer, sadly, these days, very little that I've seen or read is 100% truth. I've spotted at least one factoid in Anders Bjorkman's commentary/research that I don't agree with...however, taken as a whole, this site is very informative.


Additionally, I performed a brief search on Bjorkman to see what I could find. He replies in post #12 to his challenge. I didn't read further as I have my own understandings of reality that conflict with his. The key word in his challenge is realistic.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62555.0

Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2015, 11:51:15 PM »

"I haven't seen any results of any simulations of any kind so far. To win my Challenge you must show that your figures and descriptions are complete and realistic.

If the simulations, e.g. include a 357.5 seconds blast to produce 97 400 N thrust, burning 10 898 kg of fuel, to get backwards into orbit around the fast moving Moon (in order not to crash on it or miss it) that orbits Earth that orbits the Sun at great speed, the description must also include in what direction the thrust was applied, by whom it was done and how, etc. How was the steering jets controlled so that the rocket thrust was applied in exactly the right direction. I am also interested in how the fuel pump was driven to pump 31 kg/s fuel to the rocket engine. Electric? From where? Batteries? And at what pressure was the fuel injected? It seems quite complicated to manually steer a spacecraft into Moon orbit and I haven't seen, as said above, any realistic simulations or descriptions of it. The 1969 NASA + Buzz descriptions are a little vague, to say the least. You have to perform better to win my Challenge."


One more thing, if you're really interested in the truth, look into the Space X program. A simple Google search..."Space X hoax" will get you started.


Peace.

No
I'm not curious because your narrative is absurd

 

[PoxEclipse]

Fake Auroras?

The 2014 Jupiter cloud patterns look identical to the 2016 cloud patterns.

Again...$19.6 billion dollars to be lied to? Do you really trust anything NASA tells you? Lies upon lies upon lies!

NASA receives more than $19.6 billion in 2017 omnibus spending bill - SpaceNews.com

"The $19.653 billion NASA receives in the bill is $628 million above the original request for the agency in the Obama administration’s final budget request in February 2016. It is $368 million above the $19.285 billion NASA received in fiscal year 2016."

These photos are from NASA's website. You cannot say that they are manipulated by a third party. You may want to view them before they are removed or edited...or perhaps they won't be removed/edited at all, and NASA will just leave them on-line to rub your faces in their lies, knowing that you won't be able to do a thing about it?

2014
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140517.html

2016
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/hubble-captures-vivid-auroras-in-jupiter-s-atmosphere


Draw your own conclusions.


[video=youtube;DkE274vXsJE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkE274vXsJE[/video]


2014




2016




NASA WEBSITE SCREENSHOTS

















Peace.

 

[posthuman]

Re: Fake Auroras?

The 2014 Jupiter cloud patterns look identical to the 2016 cloud patterns.

reading comprehension pwns you.

from the Hubble mission site:

The auroras were photographed during a series of Hubble Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph far-ultraviolet-light observations taking place as NASA's Juno spacecraft approaches and enters into orbit around Jupiter.

. . .

"The full-color disk of Jupiter in this image was separately photographed at a different time by Hubble's Outer Planet Atmospheres Legacy (OPAL) program, a long-term Hubble project that annually captures global maps of the outer planets."
​

((HubbleSite: News - Hubble Captures Vivid Auroras in Jupiter's Atmosphere))


ignorance of how cameras work pwns you.

the Hubble telescope pointed its far-ultraviolet imaging apparatus at Jupiter.
obviously ((to someone with a basic knowledge of optical physics)) the visible-light image of the planet is not taken with the same instrumentation.

the ultraviolet spectrograph information recorded by Hubble was combined with information from the Juno craft approaching Jupiter, processed, and superimposed on an existing visible-light image for press release. that's never been a 'secret' and isn't being 'buried' by anyone. it's right there in the articles you had open on your computer but failed to actually read.