We choose Jesus or Jesus choose us
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what I know is start with believe in the sense of abide in Him. If you abide in Him, you will bear fruit.
john 15
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Jesus never lie, if you abide in Him, you will bring etch fruit. I do not believe a man abide in Him and not bear fruit.
john 15
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Jesus never lie, if you abide in Him, you will bring etch fruit. I do not believe a man abide in Him and not bear fruit.
Please help. You are in here preaching your gospel of everything a person must do to get into heaven.
Believing in Jesus, being truly converted is not enough by what you say.
We must do a lot of other things to, according to your gospel, to get into heaven. You've named a few things, but we want the whole list from you. You must know the other things, the whole list, each thing we must do so we can see and check off the list to make sure we have done enough to get us into heaven. Jesus then did not do enough, and you know the list of what we must do to help Him save us.
Believing in Jesus, being truly converted is not enough by what you say.
We must do a lot of other things to, according to your gospel, to get into heaven. You've named a few things, but we want the whole list from you. You must know the other things, the whole list, each thing we must do so we can see and check off the list to make sure we have done enough to get us into heaven. Jesus then did not do enough, and you know the list of what we must do to help Him save us.
OK, believe, trust in God that what Jesus did on the cross is sufficient to save me, being a one time offering perfecting me. Then start loving God, and others as a mandate to save myself and undo what Christ did on His own which saved me in the first place. Then abide in Jesus too, or I'll go to hell. There are a few things then you've given me to do to get me into heaven. I don't want to miss anything. What else to help Jesus save me must I do?
What else can I do to help save me? The whole list please!
What else can I do to help save me? The whole list please!
But the thief would of not acknowledged Jesus as Lord unless the Spirit was working in His life.
That is the way of the world that they cannot accept Jesus as Lord and authority unless God is working in their life,for they would only be persuaded by the flesh,which likes to exalt itself.
No person says Jesus is Lord,except by the Holy Ghost.
Any person that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in flesh is of God,that He called them,and will not repent of it,but they have to abide in truth to be saved.
Peter confessed Jesus as the Christ,the Son of the living God,which Jesus said flesh and blood did not reveal that to him but the Father.
No person comes to the Son unless the Father draws them.
The Bible says God chose us,we did not choose Him.
But God said,He wants all people to repent,and come to the knowledge of the truth,and be saved,and the Spirit and bride say,anybody can have that salvation.
God's kingdom is love,so we have a choice concerning salvation,for if we did not then God's kingdom is not love.
When the Bible says that the saints are predestined to salvation,it does not mean that God chooses who will be saved,or not saved,for His kingdom is love,and He wants all people to be saved,but it means that God already had the plan of salvation to offer mankind before He laid down the foundation of the world,so it is the same as if the saints have salvation in the beginning that chose that salvation in the future,like the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,but it was a future event,and the prophets blood shed from the foundation of the world,and all the works were finished from the foundation of the world,although they were future events.
For God calls things that have not happened yet,as though they already happened,for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning,for it will surely come to pass with no hindrance.
We have to choose this salvation,but God chose us,we did not choose Him.
Not a contradiction though.
Many are called,but few are chosen.
Not many noble,not many mighty,not many wise after the flesh,is called.
God knows the heart condition of people,and will call all those whose heart is right enough,and will work with that person to get them to the truth,but when the person gets to the door of truth they have to be the one to accept the truth,for we have a choice in salvation because God's kingdom is love.
God chose us,we did not choose Him,but we have a choice concerning salvation,for God calls us,and if He calls us then we would of never got to the truth without His intervention,for without His intervention we would be fleshy,which likes to exalt itself,but when we get to the door of truth then we have to make the final push,for God's kingdom is love,but we would of not gotten to the door of truth unless God intervened in our life when He chose us.
Some people get to the door of truth,but they do not push it open,and this is the truth that they lack,and like Jesus said narrow is the way that leads to eternal life,and wide is the path that does not.
The Lord knows them that are His having this SEAL,let everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Paul wrote awake to righteousness,and sin not,but not all have the knowledge of God,and I speak this to your shame.
And do not depart from the living God,by the deceitfulness of sin.
And love is the fulfilling of the law,but love does not think an evil thought,and does not sin by the Spirit,and rejoices in the truth of goodness.
And if you hate sin,and do not want sin,by the Spirit you can abstain from sin.
That is what they lack is that they do not understand they have to abstain from sin by the Spirit,but want to believe that their sin does not affect their relationship with God.
Which the Bible says they have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof,ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth,and then points out it is a sin problem,and they are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.
God chose us,for He called us,and we would of not gotten to the door of truth if it was not for His intervention.
But we choose salvation,for we have to make the final push and accept that salvation,for God's kingdom is love.
Many are called,but few are chosen,and many people get to the door of truth,but when they find out that they have to abstain from sin some will not make that push through the door,and may abandon it at that point,and many will still confess Christ,but not make that final push through the door,for they like sin,and worldliness,and believe sin does not affect their relationship with God to cover that,so they can enjoy their lovers of pleasures,and believe they are still right with God.
Many are called,but few chosen,and that is why Jesus said,not all who say Lord,Lord,will be able to enter heaven,and the reason is because they were workers of iniquity,for they would not give up some sins,believing they were alright with God.
That is the way of the world that they cannot accept Jesus as Lord and authority unless God is working in their life,for they would only be persuaded by the flesh,which likes to exalt itself.
No person says Jesus is Lord,except by the Holy Ghost.
Any person that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in flesh is of God,that He called them,and will not repent of it,but they have to abide in truth to be saved.
Peter confessed Jesus as the Christ,the Son of the living God,which Jesus said flesh and blood did not reveal that to him but the Father.
No person comes to the Son unless the Father draws them.
The Bible says God chose us,we did not choose Him.
But God said,He wants all people to repent,and come to the knowledge of the truth,and be saved,and the Spirit and bride say,anybody can have that salvation.
God's kingdom is love,so we have a choice concerning salvation,for if we did not then God's kingdom is not love.
When the Bible says that the saints are predestined to salvation,it does not mean that God chooses who will be saved,or not saved,for His kingdom is love,and He wants all people to be saved,but it means that God already had the plan of salvation to offer mankind before He laid down the foundation of the world,so it is the same as if the saints have salvation in the beginning that chose that salvation in the future,like the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,but it was a future event,and the prophets blood shed from the foundation of the world,and all the works were finished from the foundation of the world,although they were future events.
For God calls things that have not happened yet,as though they already happened,for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning,for it will surely come to pass with no hindrance.
We have to choose this salvation,but God chose us,we did not choose Him.
Not a contradiction though.
Many are called,but few are chosen.
Not many noble,not many mighty,not many wise after the flesh,is called.
God knows the heart condition of people,and will call all those whose heart is right enough,and will work with that person to get them to the truth,but when the person gets to the door of truth they have to be the one to accept the truth,for we have a choice in salvation because God's kingdom is love.
God chose us,we did not choose Him,but we have a choice concerning salvation,for God calls us,and if He calls us then we would of never got to the truth without His intervention,for without His intervention we would be fleshy,which likes to exalt itself,but when we get to the door of truth then we have to make the final push,for God's kingdom is love,but we would of not gotten to the door of truth unless God intervened in our life when He chose us.
Some people get to the door of truth,but they do not push it open,and this is the truth that they lack,and like Jesus said narrow is the way that leads to eternal life,and wide is the path that does not.
The Lord knows them that are His having this SEAL,let everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Paul wrote awake to righteousness,and sin not,but not all have the knowledge of God,and I speak this to your shame.
And do not depart from the living God,by the deceitfulness of sin.
And love is the fulfilling of the law,but love does not think an evil thought,and does not sin by the Spirit,and rejoices in the truth of goodness.
And if you hate sin,and do not want sin,by the Spirit you can abstain from sin.
That is what they lack is that they do not understand they have to abstain from sin by the Spirit,but want to believe that their sin does not affect their relationship with God.
Which the Bible says they have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof,ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth,and then points out it is a sin problem,and they are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.
God chose us,for He called us,and we would of not gotten to the door of truth if it was not for His intervention.
But we choose salvation,for we have to make the final push and accept that salvation,for God's kingdom is love.
Many are called,but few are chosen,and many people get to the door of truth,but when they find out that they have to abstain from sin some will not make that push through the door,and may abandon it at that point,and many will still confess Christ,but not make that final push through the door,for they like sin,and worldliness,and believe sin does not affect their relationship with God to cover that,so they can enjoy their lovers of pleasures,and believe they are still right with God.
Many are called,but few chosen,and that is why Jesus said,not all who say Lord,Lord,will be able to enter heaven,and the reason is because they were workers of iniquity,for they would not give up some sins,believing they were alright with God.
