We choose Jesus or Jesus choose us
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That would be a dictatorship if we didn't have a choice in return. If God chose to deny everybody then no one would be saved in kind to you statement. Let's say we are not chosen but have been taught that we are. If we are saved by grace alone, then we also have to acknowledge that God is not a dictator, but if He predetermines who is in and who is out, even the ones who are in are denied a loving relationship that should be by their own volition. It's like being raped. Sound convoluted, doesn't it?
Some have not been invited, they have never heard the Gospel.
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!? Wait a minute my friend! He saves those who believe? Stop that! You've given us many more things we must do to be saved. Please give us the entire list of things we need to do to get to heaven. Every single thing we must do. You've been preaching on here of the things we have to do to get there, we want the complete list. Help us out here with that list!
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!? Wait a minute my friend! He saves those who believe? Stop that! You've given us many more things we must do to be saved. Please give us the entire list of things we need to do to get to heaven. Every single thing we must do. You've been preaching on here of the things we have to do to get there, we want the complete list. Help us out here with that list!
Not really. I know you have read about the marriage supper at the second advent. What if Jesus knocks on the door and the bride to be refused to open it? Her choice, right? If you were right, then the words "IF ANY" would not have been written in this following verse.
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." (Revelation 3:20) This is a marriage thing that doesn't "mar" the Biblical meaning thereof. The brides choice.
Now "if" your doctrine is true, this verse would read ... Behold, I'm coming to your door, and when you hear my voice, and don't open the door, I will knock it down and come in whether you like it or not, then you will sit down and have a glass of wine ready for he to drink. This will happen because I chose you not caring for your input...Period.
Does God choose aborted babies to go to hell?
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." (Revelation 3:20) This is a marriage thing that doesn't "mar" the Biblical meaning thereof. The brides choice.
Now "if" your doctrine is true, this verse would read ... Behold, I'm coming to your door, and when you hear my voice, and don't open the door, I will knock it down and come in whether you like it or not, then you will sit down and have a glass of wine ready for he to drink. This will happen because I chose you not caring for your input...Period.
Does God choose aborted babies to go to hell?
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I am not memorized, it is in the Bible, basically if you not love God and fellow man you not go to heaven
matt 25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
King James Version (KJV)Public Domain
matt 25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
King James Version (KJV)Public Domain
More! The entire list of things we have to do to get to heaven.
You should know this entire list and have it memorized by now if you hope to make it to heaven.
If you miss something, you will be lost. Be diligent, tell us the entire list, you must already know it all by heart my friend. You should be able to give this list whenever questioned. If you cannot give this whole lost when asked, then you are not certain you've done enough.
You should know this entire list and have it memorized by now if you hope to make it to heaven.
If you miss something, you will be lost. Be diligent, tell us the entire list, you must already know it all by heart my friend. You should be able to give this list whenever questioned. If you cannot give this whole lost when asked, then you are not certain you've done enough.
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Wait one minute. I already love God and others. Then that means I've fulfilled the law.
I've always loved God and fellow man. That means I don't need Jesus, right? I mean, I already have fulfilled the law! That must be what Romans 13:10 means.
That must mean Jesus only died for ungodly people who don't love Him or their fellow man. They needed some extra help, but not me, I fulfilled the law.
I've always loved God and fellow man. That means I don't need Jesus, right? I mean, I already have fulfilled the law! That must be what Romans 13:10 means.
That must mean Jesus only died for ungodly people who don't love Him or their fellow man. They needed some extra help, but not me, I fulfilled the law.