Temptation of Jesus - Ive not noticed before....

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Miri

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Sorry for the block text, I thought it may save people looking it up.

Luke 4:1-12 NKJV
[1] Then Jesus, being filled with the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and
was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, [2] being tempted for forty days by the
devil. And in those days He ate nothing, and afterward, when they had ended,

He was hungry. [3] And the devil said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, command
this stone to become bread." [4] But Jesus answered him, saying, "It is written, 'Man
shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.'"

[5] Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms
of the world in a moment of time. [6] And the devil said to Him, "All this authority
I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it
to whomever I wish. [7] Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours."
[8] And Jesus answered and said to him, "Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, 'You
shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.'

" [9] Then he brought Him to Jerusalem, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and
said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here. [10] For
it is written: 'He shall give His angels charge over you, To keep you,' [11] and, 'In
their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone.'
" [12] And Jesus answered and said to him, "It has been said, 'You shall not tempt the
LORD your God.' "




It occurred to me that Satan was trying the same technique as used in the garden of Eden
and also the same again as used when the Israelites were in the wilderness for 40 years.

Eve and Adam saw the forbidden fruit that it was good to eat and were tempted with
food. They were tempted by Satan to obey and follow him instead of what God had said.
They were also told to test God because Satan told them nothing bad would happen
that instead they would gain knowledge.
Jesus was tempted with food, He was tempted to give in to Satan and follow Satan's words,
He was told nothing bad would happen to Him if He jumped and tested God.


Then see the following while the Isreslites were in the wilderness.

Tested with food
Deuteronomy 8:2-3 NKJV
[2] And you shall remember that the LORD your God led you all the way these
forty years in the wilderness, to humble you and test you, to know what was
in your heart, whether you would keep His commandments or not. [3] So
He humbled you, allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna which you
did not know nor did your fathers know, that He might make you know
that man shall not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that
proceeds from the mouth of the LORD.



Tested to obey God and trust God for provision.
Deuteronomy 6:10-14 NKJV
[10] "So it shall be, when the LORD your God brings you into the land
of which He swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give
you large and beautiful cities which you did not build, [11] houses full
of all good things, which you did not fill, hewn-out wells which you did not
dig, vineyards and olive trees which you did not plant-when you have eaten
and are full- [12] then beware, lest you forget the LORD who brought you
out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. [13] You shall fear
the LORD your God and serve Him, and shall take oaths in His name.
[14] You shall not go after other gods, the gods of the peoples who are all around you




Commanded not to put God to the test
Deuteronomy 6:16-19 NKJV
[16] "You shall not tempt the LORD your God as you tempted Him in Massah. [
17] You shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, His
testimonies, and His statutes which He has commanded you. [18] And you
shall do what is right and good in the sight of the LORD, that it may be well
with you, and that you may go in and possess the good land of which the
LORD swore to your fathers, [19] to cast out all your enemies from before
you, as the LORD has spoken.



I just thought it was interesting that Adam and Eve failed the tests and the temptations.
So God used those similar tests on the Isreslites maybe to see if lessons had been
learnt. Ultimately Jesus was tempted by Satan again along similar lines as Adam and
Eve but He passed with flying colours.

Question? Do you think we still ultimately tempted and tested in similar ways
to day?
 

notuptome

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Jesus divinity sustained Him. I do not know if a human can survive 40 days without food and I am reasonably certain that a human can go 40 days without water.

Our flesh knows the curse of sin but Jesus did not.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

FlSnookman7

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I think that the enemy will tempt us quite often especially when he sees we are doing kingdom work. As a person in recovery I expect temptation and I also know that the way to fight it successfully as Jesus did is to use the Word. I also believe that by doing the things the Spirit moves me to do instead of the things I would do that I keep open my access to the Holy Spirit so that when I am tempted beyond my will to resist it will be easier for me to turn my will over to God.

I suppose there will be those who say that is not exactly biblical but that's ok. I am finding that we are each unique beings created for God's pleasure to serve Him in a unique way. In other words my walk is not the same as someone else's walk.
Not sure if that answers your question or not, hope it does. :)
 

tourist

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Jesus divinity sustained Him. I do not know if a human can survive 40 days without food and I am reasonably certain that a human can go 40 days without water.

Our flesh knows the curse of sin but Jesus did not.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
The bible only said that Jesus went without food for 40 days. There was no mention whether or not He went without water also. It was only when the work of Jesus was complete and He was dying on the cross for our sins that He said "I thirst'.
 

MarcR

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I believe that a person can go 4--5 weeks without food without serious damage. A person will be seriously dehydrated after 8-10 days without water.
 
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Jesus divinity sustained Him. I do not know if a human can survive 40 days without food and I am reasonably certain that a human can go 40 days without water.

Our flesh knows the curse of sin but Jesus did not.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
General rule of 3's......the average person can go....

3 minutes without air
3 hours without shelter
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

Key words....average person
 
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Miri

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That's a given. See 1 John 2:16.

Oh good verse :)

I suppose most temptation can be catagorised as self sufficiency,
testing God to see if He really will send people to hell,
and temptations to put other people or other things/objects first instead of
God.

Maybe its just more subtle in modern times. After all not many will bow down to
a golden calf, but they may worship that expensive car and spend all their spare
time waxing and polishing it.

They might not be staving but there may be temptations to buy bigger houses,
go on more expensive holidays, earn more money rather than being content
with God's provision. Just thinking of the man who wanted to build bigger barns
in the bible but who didn't know God.
 
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Two things I think gets overlooked.....

a. He was tempted 40 DAYS in the wilderness before this account which involved no telling what.

b. He was tempted in ALL POINTS as we are tempted....

ponder those two for a minute or two
 

notmyown

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what do you think, Miri? the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the boastful pride of life?


 
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Zi

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Jesus emptied Himself and came as a man, His divinity was left in heaven.
He was not the only recorded individual to fast forty days and nights.. Moses did as well.
Jesus divinity sustained Him. I do not know if a human can survive 40 days without food and I am reasonably certain that a human can go 40 days without water.

Our flesh knows the curse of sin but Jesus did not.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Zi

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Not taking away from Jesus, but He came as one of us to be an example. That can't be so quickly left out.
 

FlSnookman7

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A favorite verse of mine concerns temptation...


1 Corinthians 10:13 13 [FONT=&quot]There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.[/FONT]
 

Nehemiah6

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Jesus emptied Himself and came as a man, His divinity was left in heaven.
Not His divinity but His Divine majesty. He humbled Himself no doubt, but He always remained the God-Man, nothing less. He left His Divine privileges in Heaven, and was fully man -- YET WITHOUT SIN. That is the key to understanding Christ. The temptations were real, but the Person who was being tempted did not have a sin nature to respond to those temptation. And God cannot be tempted. So once again, we have the Mystery of God and the Mystery of Godliness, but we try to use human reasoning to figure out how Christ could be tempted as we are.
 

Blain

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WOW Miri kudos to you for that insightfullness:D I never even considered how Jesus was tested in the exact same way as Adam and Eve It makes sense really as he is known as the second Adam right? I can certainly say from far to much experience that we are still tested in this way and sadly self control is my greatest weakness so I fail at least 90% of the time with my caffeine addiction Honestly if I can't get my fix I go insane and I have beaten myself up so many times over this.
 

Bladerunner

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Jesus divinity sustained Him. I do not know if a human can survive 40 days without food and I am reasonably certain that a human can go 40 days without water.

Our flesh knows the curse of sin but Jesus did not.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Yes, the Body can survive 40 days without food, only 6-7 without water.
 
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Zi

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I don't see what you say here in the word. Some think He operated as God to overcome, I don't. He went through the human experience.

Not His divinity but His Divine majesty. He humbled Himself no doubt, but He always remained the God-Man, nothing less. He left His Divine privileges in Heaven, and was fully man -- YET WITHOUT SIN. That is the key to understanding Christ. The temptations were real, but the Person who was being tempted did not have a sin nature to respond to those temptation. And God cannot be tempted. So once again, we have the Mystery of God and the Mystery of Godliness, but we try to use human reasoning to figure out how Christ could be tempted as we are.
perhaps divinity was the wrong choice in words. I've read Phil, so I know what I meant. No room for error here on CC..
 
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Zmouth

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Luke 4:1-12 NKJV
[1] Then Jesus, being filled with the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and
was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, [2] being tempted for forty days by the
devil. And in those days He ate nothing, and afterward, when they had ended,

He was hungry. [3] And the devil said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, command
this stone to become bread." [4] But Jesus answered him, saying, "It is written, 'Man
shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.'"

Question? Do you think we still ultimately tempted and tested in similar ways
to day?
Did you ever notice that in the Gospel of John, it gives an different account of the events following the baptism of Jesus in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing?

32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;
36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
John 1:32-36

43 The day following Jesus would go forth into Galilee, and findeth Philip, and saith unto him, Follow me.
44 Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.
45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
John 1:43-45

2:1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.
6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.
7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.
9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
John 2:1-10

 

OneFaith

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1 Corinthians 10:13. (Food is certainly one of them. Easu sold his birthright for a lunch.)
 
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pottersclay

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As far as the fasting Moses I believe did it 3 times.

The temptations of our Lord now that's a study in it's self. Much to glean from here. Physically Jesus is near death. The wilderness is barren and cruel. Hot sun by day, cold at night. No food no water. Then Satan himself shows up. Reminding Jesus of who he says he is..."the son of God" reminding him of his Devine abilities to make bread from the stones. Had he done this it would of went against his purpose that he had come into this world. He was to be totally dependant on the Father. Paul said the Lord is strong when we are weak or in our weakness.
Essau gave up his inheritance for a bowl of stew. If Christ sustained himself by his own abilities....well praise God he didn't.
Look at Jesus reply....it is written...man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.
God is the life.

More to come if interested


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