Which is the real day of worship?Saturday or Sunday?

[Hizikyah]

Worship, serve and seek every day. However only one day was set apart at Creation. I guess it comes down to if one believes the Commandments are still valid.

Matt 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."


Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahanan, saw the holy city, YHWH Shammah, coming down from YHWH out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father.”

 

[Muzungu256]

EY MON THIS IS A DUPLICATE! I AINT THAT GUY, ITS FROM YEARS BACK!

 

[prove-all]

Jesus rose from the grave on a Sunday morning.
So many times it says "Upon the first day of the week..."

the bible does not say it was a morning resurrction,
the bible is clear he was gone before"the morning"

there is 8 places where the phrase" first day of the week" in the N.T.,
and not one of them is a new command, to now do sunday worship.

in the new testement" first day of the week" is a workday.

 

[glnman]

The new covenant is OLDER than the old covenant see Gen. 3:15. The Sabbath is the memorial of bothe creation and redemption - see Ex. 20 and Duet. 5. The resurrection never changed the Holy Sabbath day. The covenants do not obey the law man does that. The covenant is the agreement between God and man in which God determines the requirement for salvation. That requirement is obedience to the moral law (all 10 commandments) both in the old covenant and the new covenant.the Sabbath is the sign that Christians belong to God (Ezek. 20:12, 20) Man has always been saved by grace through faith from Gen. to Rev. As such Jesus said in John 14:15: If you love Me keep my commandments. Commandment keeping is a natural result of a living relationship with Jesus. Sunday commemorates nothing. At no time did Jesus ever command His people to honor Sunday. If you want to find Sunday worship you must go outside the Bible to the 3rd century AD and it was commanded by man not God.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Please help me for this questions with verses from the Bible so that i may understand the which is the real day of worship. Thanks and God Bless you all!!

The only question Christian's need to ask themselves is "Is there such a thing as THE LORD'S DAY mentioned in Scripture, and if so what was its significance to the apostolic churches as well as Christianity for over 2,000 years?"

To give you some insight into the significance of the Lord's Day I am quoting form several well-known and respected commentators who confirm that the first day of the week (what is commonly called Sunday) has always been regarded as the day of Christian worship because it is the Lord's Day.

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet (Rev 1:10)

The day and time in which he had this vision: it was the Lord’s day, the day which Christ had separated and set apart for himself, as the eucharist is called the Lord’s supper. Surely this can be no other than the Christian sabbath, the first day of the week, to be observed in remembrance of the resurrection of Christ.

Let us who call him our Lord honour him on his own day, the day which the Lord hath made and in which we ought to rejoice. 4. The frame that his soul was in at this time: He was in the Spirit. He was not only in a rapture when he received the vision, but before he received it; he was in a serious, heavenly, spiritual frame, under the blessed gracious influences of the Spirit of God.

God usually prepares the souls of his people for uncommon manifestations of himself, by the quickening sanctifying influences of his good Spirit. Those who would enjoy communion with God on the Lord’s day must endeavour to abstract their thoughts and affections from flesh and fleshly things, and be wholly taken up with things of a spiritual nature. (Matthew Henry)

Not on the Jewish sabbath, which was now abolished, nor was that ever called the Lord's day, and had John meant that, he would have said on the sabbath day; much less the Jewish passover, but the first day of the week is designed; so the Ethiopic version renders it "on the first day"; and is so called just as the ordinance of the supper is called the Lord's supper, being instituted by the Lord, and the Lord's table, ( 1 Corinthians 10:21 ) ( 11:20 ) , and that because it was the day in which our Lord rose from the dead, ( Mark 16:9 ) ; and in which he appeared at different times to his disciples, ( John 20:19 John 20:26 ) , and which the primitive churches set apart for his worship and service, and on which they met together to hear the word, and attend on ordinances, ( Acts 20:7 ) ( 1 Corinthians 16:1 ) ; and Justin Martyr tells us, who lived within about fifty years after this time, that on the day called (th tou) (hliou hmera) , "Sunday", (by the Greeks,) the Christians met together in one place, and read the Scriptures, and prayed together, and administered the ordinance of the supper;

And this, he adds, was the first day in which God created the World, and our Saviour Jesus Christ rose from the dead; yea, Barnabas, the companion of the Apostle Paul, calls this day the eighth day, in distinction from the seventh day sabbath of the Jews, and which he says is the beginning of another world; and therefore we keep the eighth day, adds he, joyfully, in which Jesus rose from the dead, and being manifested, ascended unto heaven:

And this day was known by the ancients by the name of "the Lord's day"; as by Ignatius, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Origen, and others; for it must be some day that was known by this name, otherwise it is mentioned to no purpose, because it would not be distinctive from others; for which reason it cannot merely design the day in which John saw this vision, because the Lord appeared on it to him, for this would not distinguish it from any other day.

Some have conjectured that this was not the weekly Lord's day observed by the Christians, but the anniversary of Christ's resurrection; and so the Ethiopians still call Easter "Schambatah Crostos", the sabbath of Christ: to understand it of the former is best. Now, though John was driven from the house and worship of God, and could not join with the saints in the public worship of that day; yet he was employed in spiritual contemplations and exercises, and was under a more than ordinary influence of the Spirit of God; and his spirit or soul was wholly intent upon, and taken up with divine and spiritual things, with visions and representations that were made unto his mind, which he perceived in his spirit, and not with the organs of his body; he was in an ecstasy of spirit, and knew not scarcely whether he was in the body or out of it: (John Gill)

10. I was--Greek, "I came to be"; "I became."
in the Spirit--in a state of ecstasy; the outer world being shut out, and the inner and higher life or spirit being taken full possession of by God's Spirit, so that an immediate connection with the invisible world is established. While the prophet" speaks" in the Spirit, the apocalyptic seer is in the Spirit in his whole person. The spirit only (that which connects us with God and the invisible world) is active, or rather recipient, in the apocalyptic state. With Christ this being "in the Spirit" was not the exception, but His continual state.

on the Lord's day--Though forcibly detained from Church communion with the brethren in the sanctuary on the Lord's day, the weekly commemoration of the resurrection, John was holding spiritual communion with them. This is the earliest mention of the term, "the Lord's day." But the consecration of the day to worship, almsgiving, and the Lord's Supper, is implied in Acts 20:7 , 1 Corinthians 16:2 ; compare John 20:19-26 . The name corresponds to "the Lord's Supper,"1 Corinthians 11:20 . IGNATIUS seems to allude to "the Lord's day" [Epistle to the Magnesians, 9], and IRENÆUS [Quæst ad Orthod., 115] (in JUSTIN MARTYR). JUSTIN MARTYR [Apology, 2.98], &c., "On Sunday we all hold our joint meeting; for the first day is that on which God, having removed darkness and chaos, made the world, and Jesus Christ our Saviour rose from the dead. On the day before Saturday they crucified Him; and on the day after Saturday, which is Sunday, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught these things." To the Lord's day PLINY doubtless refers [Epistles, Book X., p. 97], "The Christians on a fixed day before dawn meet and sing a hymn to Christ as God," &c. TERTULLIAN [The Chaplet,3], "On the Lord's day we deem it wrong to fast." MELITO, bishop of Sardis (second century), wrote a book on the Lord's day[EUSEBIUS 4.26]. Also, DIONYSIUS OF CORINTH, in EUSEBIUS [Ecclesiastical History, 4.23,8]. CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA [Miscellanies, 5. and 7.12]; ORIGEN [Against Celsus, 8. 22].

The theory that the day of Christ's second coming is meant, is untenable. "The day of the Lord" is different in the Greek from "the Lord's (an adjective) day," which latter in the ancient Church always designates our Sunday, though it is not impossible that the two shall coincide (at least in some parts of the earth), whence a tradition is mentioned in JEROME [Commentary on Matthew, 25], that the Lord's coming was expected especially on the Paschal Lord's day. The visions of the Apocalypse, the seals, trumpets, and vials, &c., are grouped in sevens, and naturally begin on the first day of the seven, the birthday of the Church, whose future they set forth [WORDSWORTH]. (Jamieson, Fausset, & Brown)

 

[prove-all]

The only question Christian's need to ask themselves is
"Is there such a thing as THE LORD'S DAY mentioned in Scripture, and if so what was its s
ignificance to the apostolic churches as well as Christianity for over 2,000 years?"

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet (Rev 1:10)

nowhere does the bible say the Lords day is sunday.
for that matter John was "in a future vision" and
a day of the week is not even mentioned.



what John sees is "the future " refered elsewhere as "the day of the Lord"


not sure why people have been adding to the bible,
and go along with mans tradations, as this clearly is.

 

[Nehemiah6]

nowhere does the bible say the Lords day is sunday.

Nowhere does the Bible say it is "Saturday" either. That is why Christians study the Word and bring all Scriptures to bear on the subject. Sunday happens to be "the first day of the week" and the "first day of the week" is mentioned again and again in Scripture. Thus the Lord's Day is the first day of the week (since the Bible never speaks about Sunday, Monday, etc.), Did you even check the Scripture references provided before making your hasty and ill-advised comment?

And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days. And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. (Acts 20:6,7).

So why did Paul and his companions wait for seven days before they met the the disciples? Because the Breaking of Bread (the Lord's Supper at the Lord's Table) was observed on the Lord's Day (the first day of the week), and they planned to worship together, and also have Paul preach on that day.

Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as Godhath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. (1 Cor 16:1,2).

So on which day of the week were the Christians to bring their gifts and offerings, and would this not also coincide with the day on which they gathered together to observe the Lord's Supper and to worship and hear the preaching of the Word?

Why do Christians oppose what is clearly revealed in Scripture? When Thomas was missing from the group of apostles gathered on the first day of the week -- the day of resurrection -- Christ waited for seven days and then appeared to Thomas and the others on the Lord's Day. This was also the day on which he declared "My Lord, and my God".

But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. (John 20:24-28).

 

[prove-all]

Nowhere does the Bible say it is "Saturday" either.

That is why Christians study the Word and bring all Scriptures to bear on the subject.
Sunday happens to be "the first day of the week" and the "first day of the week"
is mentioned again and again in Scripture.

Thus the Lord's Day is the first day of the week (since the Bible never speaks
about Sunday, Monday, etc.), Did you even check the Scripture references
provided before making your hasty and ill-advised comment?

so thus you declare the day changed, but without bible authority,
because saturday does not show in the bible?

there is only 8 places in the new testement that have (first day of the week) care to
count how many times the Sabbath day, the 7th day of the week mentioned is?

yes we can go through all those verses, about the first day, give me a few.
do you think I just make things up without knowing the answer already?



And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread,
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul
preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

(Acts 20:6,7).

So why did Paul and his companions wait for seven days before they met the disciples?
Because the Breaking of Bread (the Lord's Supper at the Lord's Table)
was observed on the Lord's Day (the first day of the week), and they
planned to worship together, and also have Paul preach on that day.

my first question would be, why did Paul and companions just keep
"the days of unleavened bread" mentioned, if the Sabbaths where abolished ?

If you had checked the Scripture references of What “Breaking Bread” Means ,
you would find it was eating a meal with thanks, not a religious service.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/149862-sabbath-9.html#post3032595

those verses do not say sunday is the Lords day, again a mans tradation.



This fist day of the week is a work day, Paul was leaving at first light on a long walk,
if you look into it, his other companions where sailing a boat all night around the point.
Paul was to walk to catchup, a straight line on land. Paul giving last minute instructions .

 

[prove-all]

So on which day of the week were the Christians to bring their gifts and offerings,
and would this not also coincide with the day on which they gathered together to
observe the Lord's Supper and to worship and hear the preaching of the Word?

What Was This COLLECTION on the first day?
after checking the Scripture references we find this is a work day,
for people to pick from gardens and store food, for the hungry Saints.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/149862-sabbath-9.html#post3032586

It was not a command to collect money, or for preaching on sunday.
You also confuse passover, and replace with what you call the Lords supper,
another serious error of man and his madeup tradations