Is it right for Christains to reject the “Feast of Tabernacles?”

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Daniel 9:27, "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. . ."
This is in relation to the abomination that causes desolation. Quoting the previous verse 26, "
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined."

I find nowhere that Jesus has made, or will make a seven year covenant,
He confirmed THE NEW Covenant for the 3 years of His ministry, from Passover to Passover The Antichrist tries to mimic Jesus, for as Jesus was the fulfilment of the sacrifices, the Antichrist will try to do the same. This important aspect goes overlooked by many.
Colossians 2:14, "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross"
This is in relation to the Talmud
Colossians 2:16, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days". . . [the seven yearly sabbaths]
This is in relation to pagan ridicule.

Ephesians 2:15, "He did this by ending the system of law with its commandments and regulations. He made peace between Jews and Gentiles by creating in himself one new people from the two groups."
This is in relation to the Pharisaical Talmud reconciling differences between the Jews and Gentiles.
The Sabbath is one of The Ten Commandments. As such it portrays the perfect character of God and righteousness and The Ten commandments serve as a ruler for right living which will be used in the judgment to decide who is worthy of eternal life.
(Matthew 19:17-19; James 2:8-12; Revelation 22:14)


It might be a danger, if one urges the keeping of the feasts, to neglect The Gospel Commission of Matthew 28:19-20, "Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world."
The feasts point to salvation. This particular feast incorporates that completion of the Passover, Unleavened Bread.

Matthew 24:14, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."


Revelation 22:20, "He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus."
These 2 verse are certainly true.
 
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This is in relation to the abomination that causes desolation. Quoting the previous verse 26, "
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined."

I find nowhere that Jesus has made, or will make a seven year covenant,
He confirmed THE NEW Covenant for the 3 years of His ministry, from Passover to Passover The Antichrist tries to mimic Jesus, for as Jesus was the fulfilment of the sacrifices, the Antichrist will try to do the same. This important aspect goes overlooked by many. This is in relation to the Talmud
This is in relation to pagan ridicule.

This is in relation to the Pharisaical Talmud reconciling differences between the Jews and Gentiles.


The feasts point to salvation. This particular feast incorporates that completion of the Passover, Unleavened Bread.
These 2 verse are certainly true.
And the 3 years of ministry is of human fable,

many people think Jesus was dormant from age 12 to 30 years old, that is a insult to Him and His life.
 

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Though knowing these festivals has value for sure,

example the feast of dedication though no longer called that, even though it's mentioned in scripture is still in use today.

referred to as hunakkah for the Jewish, Christmas for the Christian
December 15th is the birthday of Nimrod/ his assumed identity are also attributed as sun god and also the god for forest. It was in his honour, the December 25 was celebrated. #3 The Roman Version: Saturnalia is another pre-Christian pagan version of December 25. The Romans observed Saturnalia as a holiday, the dedication of the temple of their god Saturn.
 
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I've heard some say because of Leviticus that the first day of unleavend bread start on the 15th.

someone who wrote the bible didn't get it right

mark 14:12
And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?
 
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December 15th is the birthday of Nimrod/ his assumed identity are also attributed as sun god and also the god for forest. It was in his honour, the December 25 was celebrated. #3 The Roman Version: Saturnalia is another pre-Christian pagan version of December 25. The Romans observed Saturnalia as a holiday, the dedication of the temple of their god Saturn.
your quite obsess with the pagan stuff.
 

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5. Olive
Nehemiah 8:15b “fetch olive (זית) branches, and pine (oil שמן) branches, and myrtle branches, and palm branches, and branches of thick trees, to make booths, as it is written.”

Correctly interpreted to the English way of speaking...”bring olive leaves with the olives that contain oil.”
By the direction of the Word of YHWH, the description of the foliage used are leaves and ripe olives attached to the branches.

Connected to these olive branches, pine replaces oil tree leaves, denoting, leaves of an “oil tree.”

Throughout Israel, olives are harvested during the span of about three months, approximately from the middle of July through September into October. We can safely say the olives were still attached to the olive branches during the “Feast of Tabernacles.”

The first letter (זַ) in the word olive is a picture of a “mattock” used for preparing the ground to receive the seed that will eventually bear fruit after its kind. In the parable of the sower and the seed, a “mattock” would be used to prepare the ground (heart) for planting the given seed.

“For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.” (Hebrews 2:16)

1 Peter 1:22-23
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

The second letter (יִ) in the word olive is a picture of a closed hand symbolizing work and worship.
The third and final letter (ת) is the sign and monument of the cross.

In essence, the olive says, “ When the heart is properly prepared to accept the seed, and the Father’s perfection and spiritual completeness comes from the cross.”

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.” (1 Peter 1:3-5 KJV )
 

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6. Pine
Nehemiah 8:15b “fetch olive (זית) branches, and pine (oil שמן) branches, and myrtle branches, and palm branches, and branches of thick trees, to make booths, as it is written.”

Oil (שֶׁמֶן) is defined as liquid that has a greasy texture as from the olive and often perfumed for anointing. Because of the tremendous potency of some of the other oils, it was necessary to use what is called a carrier. The oil was used for light and for fuel in any offering or sacrifice that was burnt. Olive oil was also used as the base for the disinfectant for anointing all the utensils in the temple, along with the consecration of the priests and the inauguration ceremony of a king.

The olive fruit contains the oil that represents the Spirit.

The first letter (שׁ) in the word oil is the concept of kindness. It is connected with the discerning “soul” and is coupled with what makes sense to us. We are to judge these experiences in retrospect, and identify what is palatable according to the proven truth in YHWH’s Word.

The second letter (מֶ) in the word oil is related to a time-life dimension like a “generation.” This letter also means that there is a purpose to our experiences.

The third letter (ן) in the word oildenotes finality, being the everlasting Seed, speaking explicitly, never needing to differentiate from its first statements. It indicates "life” with an eternal finalized purpose.

Remaining in its original form makes the olive limited. There are many purposes that the olive has hidden in it. It is not just an olive, it is an illuminating oil. The olive has to literally become deformed and crushed to give its greatest gift to fulfill a diversity of magnificence.

This oil (שֶׁמֶן) can be summed up in one sentence that says, ‘The loving kindness of Elohim is focused on the inhabitants of the world, so “That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."
(John 3:15 KJV)

These olive branches with leaves and olive fruit are a clear representation of the “fruit of the Spirit,” a fruit containing “love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.” (Galatians 5:22-23 KJV)

Inside for this “Feast of Tabernacles,” we consistently see them, (the fruit of the Spirit) reminding us throughout the entire day, and through the year until we meet again in His Name.
 
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Ooo the word bible is this from the sun god daughter who's name was byble.
 
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5. Olive
Nehemiah 8:15b “fetch olive (זית) branches, and pine (oil שמן) branches, and myrtle branches, and palm branches, and branches of thick trees, to make booths, as it is written.”

Correctly interpreted to the English way of speaking...”bring olive leaves with the olives that contain oil.”
By the direction of the Word of YHWH, the description of the foliage used are leaves and ripe olives attached to the branches.

Connected to these olive branches, pine replaces oil tree leaves, denoting, leaves of an “oil tree.”

Throughout Israel, olives are harvested during the span of about three months, approximately from the middle of July through September into October. We can safely say the olives were still attached to the olive branches during the “Feast of Tabernacles.”

The first letter (זַ) in the word olive is a picture of a “mattock” used for preparing the ground to receive the seed that will eventually bear fruit after its kind. In the parable of the sower and the seed, a “mattock” would be used to prepare the ground (heart) for planting the given seed.

“For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.” (Hebrews 2:16)

1 Peter 1:22-23
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

The second letter (יִ) in the word olive is a picture of a closed hand symbolizing work and worship.
The third and final letter (ת) is the sign and monument of the cross.

In essence, the olive says, “ When the heart is properly prepared to accept the seed, and the Father’s perfection and spiritual completeness comes from the cross.”

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.” (1 Peter 1:3-5 KJV )
Well the history of cultivating the olive tree is that the Greeks were the first to cultivate the tree not the Jews.

Deut 6:11
And houses full of all good things,
which thou filledst not, and wells digged, which thou diggedst not, vineyards and olive trees, which thou plantedst not; when thou shalt have eaten and be full;
 

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Well the history of cultivating the olive tree is that the Greeks were the first to cultivate the tree not the Jews.

Deut 6:11
And houses full of all good things,
which thou filledst not, and wells digged, which thou diggedst not, vineyards and olive trees, which thou plantedst not; when thou shalt have eaten and be full;
Looks as if the Israelites reaped the benefits. :eek:
 

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so you don't believe in Eph 2:15 ?
"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" Jesus didn't abolish His own Father's principles, He fulfilled them.

Ephesians 2:15 is referring to man's laws that create anti-Semitism, i.e. "enmity.". They were invented by the Pharisaical doctrines based on a Babylonian Talmud, while Judah was in captivity for 70 years. As we know from the four Gospels, Jesus had a major problem with this.

One of the ordinances in the Talmud was, if you didn't pronounce the name of God correctly, you were sentenced to death. That is not Gospel, neither is it God's law in it's original form.

I think the Talmud is convoluted. see this site, it's short. https://www.gotquestions.org/Talmud.html
 

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I've heard some say because of Leviticus that the first day of unleavend bread start on the 15th.

someone who wrote the bible didn't get it right

mark 14:12
And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?
According to the Biblical calendar, the day begins and sundown. There is no night that follows a particular day. The days are counted from sundown to sundown. If we understand that same pattern, then the scriptures will make more sense concerning the days, seasons, and times.

The Passover is a lamb, not a day. It was eaten the same day it was slaughtered through sundown, leading into the beginning of the 15th day.
 
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And the 3 years of ministry is of human fable,

many people think Jesus was dormant from age 12 to 30 years old, that is a insult to Him and His life.
Luke 2:42-52 (As Jesus grew up)
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
[SUP]47 [/SUP]And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
[SUP]48 [/SUP]And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
[SUP]49 [/SUP]And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
[SUP]50 [/SUP]And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
[SUP]51 [/SUP]And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
[SUP]52 [/SUP]And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

The wedding feast at Cana was just before Passover. this was just before the beginning of Jesus' ministry. Jesus baptism was before His 40 days of temptation in the wilderness, and all that preceded the marriage celebration at Cana.

John 2:1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:

This would have been the 3rd of Abib, the first month of the year.

John 2:13 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

Just 12 verses apart, Passover (as mentioned in this scripture) to the day Christ died at Passover is 3 years,
not 3 and 1/2 years as some may say according to Daniel 9:27.

 
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7. Boughs
Leviticus 23:40 “And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs (וַעֲנַף) of thick trees, and willows of the brook;and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God.”

The Boughs (פְּרִי) of “goodly trees”(previously defined), and the boughs (וַעֲנַף) of“thick trees,” being defined next,is for a covering, a comparison to “atonement,”

So the first two letters in “Boughs” are representative of the eye(וַעֲ).

Physically, a person cannot hear with their eyes, and neither can they see with their ears, but spiritually, this is possible. There comes a time in all of our lives that it behoves us to complement the hearing of truth, with the silent reality of really seeing it. With spiritual understanding, the eye (וַעֲ) will actually be able to see what the final letters in “boughs” are saying.

The third letter נָ(nun) is a picture of a seed, an heir, and a son. Joshua was the son of Nun. In the Hebrew language, Joshua and Jesus are written the same, both meaning “Jehovah is salvation.” Joshua led the physical Israel into the Promised Land, and Jesus Christ (Yeshua as I sometimes pronounce His name), is leading the spiritual Israel into the eternal Promised Land.

And the Lord said unto Moses, Take thee *Joshua the son of Nun, a man in whom is the spirit, and lay thine hand upon him;” (Numbers 27:18 KJV)

Notice the two different ways the son of Nun is spelled, both from the King James Version Bible.

“And all the congregation of them that were come again out of the captivity made booths, and sat under the booths: for since the days of *Jeshua the son of Nun unto that day had not the children of Israel done so. And there was very great gladness.” (Nehemiah 8:17 KJV)

The last letter in “boughsis ף (pey), a picture of dual actions, equitable complete justice by the Word of God.

Boughs” spell out, ‘See the Son complete what His Father has spoken.’ They are eternal words that forever shape the future.
 

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8. Palm
Nehemiah 8:15b “fetch olive branches, and pine branches, and myrtle branches, and palm
(תְּמָרִ) branches, and branches of thick trees, to make booths, as it is written.”

The word “Palm” (תָּמָר) is the same Hebrew word in both Nehemiah and Leviticus, actually being a flowering, domesticated date palm, that produces sweet edible fruit.

This word Tamar (תָּמָר), the exact of “palm” is extremely unique because it is the name of three women of the tribe of Judah.
1. Judah’s daughter-in-law.
2. David’s daughter.
3. David’s granddaughter.

1. “And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar.” (Genesis 38:6 KJV)
2. “And it came to pass after this, that Absalom the son of David had a fair sister, whose name was Tamar; and Amnon the son of David loved her.” (2 Samuel 13:1KJV)
3. “And unto Absalom there were born three sons, and one daughter, whose name was Tamar: she was a woman of a fair countenance.” (2 Samuel 14:27)

Tamar was, and is not the root itself, but a representative of the nourishing root of this palm standing tall and clearly seen. This represents new life with Jesus Christ, and the Tamar (representing the true church) nourishes the individual children of God, for the name Tamar, (Palm) means upright, sweet, and fruitful.

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. (Revelation 22:16 KJV)
 

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The spiral pagan swine is what I try to stay away from.
Physically, pig make me feel bad anyway. The cud on
a clean animal represents better digestion of food.
Are swine clean- Swine Flu

-back in 2009- A multistrained swine flu has infected nearly 2,000 people in Mexico.
According to authorities, this flu is an animal strain of the H1N1 virus that killed
around 50 million people in 1918.

Swine influenza- In August 2010, the World Health Organization
declared the swine flu pandemic officially over
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_flu

-but are these animal pandemics really over?
what does the bible say about the end times .


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February 1st, 2017

A Terrifying Superbug Showed up on a US [pig] Farm
http://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/147724-terrifying-superbug-showed-up-us-pig-farm.html

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“And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed
with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and
with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth” (Revelation 6:7-8).

In Matthew 24, Christ unlocks the true identity of this pale green horse: “and there
shall be … pestilences” (verse 7). The man on the pale horse symbolizes climactic,
globe-encircling plagues and pandemics occurring and soon to occur in this modern age!
 
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Are swine clean- Swine Flu

-back in 2009- A multistrained swine flu has infected nearly 2,000 people in Mexico.
According to authorities, this flu is an animal strain of the H1N1 virus that killed
around 50 million people in 1918.

Swine influenza- In August 2010, the World Health Organization
declared the swine flu pandemic officially over
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_flu

-but are these animal pandemics really over?
what does the bible say about the end times .


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February 1st, 2017

A Terrifying Superbug Showed up on a US [pig] Farm
http://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/147724-terrifying-superbug-showed-up-us-pig-farm.html

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“And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed
with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and
with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth” (Revelation 6:7-8).

In Matthew 24, Christ unlocks the true identity of this pale green horse: “and there
shall be … pestilences” (verse 7). The man on the pale horse symbolizes climactic,
globe-encircling plagues and pandemics occurring and soon to occur in this modern age!
A harbinger that the "powers that be" don't want us to see. Amen brother!!!