Tattoos, piercings.... opinions?

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themusicmiss

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So I was thinking about how cool it'd be to get a treble celf tattoo for my next birthday.. or even better, a cross...not anything major, but just to get people to see it, perhaps on my wrist...
however, an amplified version of the bible says this..

"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."

So, what are peoples opinions? I found this unintentionally... kinda.... but I'm sure there are many out there who have had some done, I'm not sure. Hmm..
 
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So I was thinking about how cool it'd be to get a treble celf tattoo for my next birthday.. or even better, a cross...not anything major, but just to get people to see it, perhaps on my wrist...
however, an amplified version of the bible says this..

"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."

So, what are peoples opinions? I found this unintentionally... kinda.... but I'm sure there are many out there who have had some done, I'm not sure. Hmm..

You are not under the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15) - [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana]Paul's theology of sin and the law[/FONT]

But Jesus never said don't have to follow the law.
 
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greatkraw

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we havediscussed the whole tattoo thing before and some paople got very upset

those were the young ones who already had tattoos or were considering getting them

I always want to here from older peole who have regretted them
 
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socperkins

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I think there is an even split of opinions on this one. I would really like a tattoo, but whenever I think about it the Lord shows me a new verse against it. Here are a few that I have read that, although not all about tattoos, I think can be applied (as well as the one you quoted):

1 Corinthians 7:20 - Each one should remain in the condition in which he was called.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 - Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

Leviticus 19:28 - You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the LORD.

Also in my opinion, tattoos are a form of pride...

Proverbs 16:5 - Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the LORD; be assured, he will not go unpunished.

I'm sure a lot of people will say I'm taking these verses out of context, but the Lord clearly led me to them. I say no tattoos and no piercings. If God wants me to have a tattoo He'll give me one (which would be pretty awesome).

Edit - Not to mention, wouldn't your money be better spent somewhere else?
 
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Israel

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2 Timothy 3:1-8

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.


The law says not to get tattoos and cuttings for the dead. But what is the TRUTH? The truth is that tattoos can no more condemn a person than eating pork or going to church on sunday. The person with the tattoo as well as the person without it , in the flesh, all end in the grave as flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. For one to hold this to be true, they must also condemn surgery and especially the kind involving some form of transplant as most parts come from the bodies of deceased organ donnors.

Mark 3:28-29

Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal ****ation.

The Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth. The truth is that God is a Spirit. Love God with all of your being, being demonstrated by the love of your neighbor. From there, all that isn't of faith is sin. From eating pork to getting tattoos, if it is done in faith, for that person it is not sin.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I think that it is a matter of personal conscience. I believe that the Levitical passage has to do with paganism. I think that tattooing should not be done casually as it is fairly perminent. I also think that for some it is a matter of pride. Search your heart but we anre not under the law.
 
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MaggieMye

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the bible says this.. "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."

So, what are peoples opinions? If that is what the Bible says, why do you need man's opinion?? And while this IS in the OT, it is a spiritual LAW and so eternal. At NO TIME are we to cut our flesh in honor of the dead or print or tattoo marks upon our bodies. Why? Because our bodies are TEMPLES of the Holy Spirit and the Lord Jesus.
Would YOU want to live in a house with a bunch of [demonic] graffitti on it??
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Israel

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the bible says this.. "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."

So, what are peoples opinions? If that is what the Bible says, why do you need man's opinion?? And while this IS in the OT, it is a spiritual LAW and so eternal. At NO TIME are we to cut our flesh in honor of the dead or print or tattoo marks upon our bodies. Why? Because our bodies are TEMPLES of the Holy Spirit and the Lord Jesus.
Would YOU want to live in a house with a bunch of [demonic] graffitti on it??
Maggie
Eating unclean meat is also in the old testament. The same reasoning for tattoos should be used here as well. To each their own in that regard but do it in faith.
 
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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So I was thinking about how cool it'd be to get a treble celf tattoo for my next birthday.. or even better, a cross...not anything major, but just to get people to see it, perhaps on my wrist...
however, an amplified version of the bible says this..

"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."

So, what are peoples opinions? I found this unintentionally... kinda.... but I'm sure there are many out there who have had some done, I'm not sure. Hmm..
The mentioning of tattoos in Leveticus 19:28 appears to be couched in a section dealing with cultic practices: interpreting omens, telling fortunes, rounding off the hair, marring the edges of the beard, and cuttings for the dead.

As such it’s possible that this prohibition is tied to some cultic ritual. If this is the case, then the act of tattooing may be permissible once the cultic associations have been dissolved. Today, in western cultures, tattoos have no cultic associations (although I suppose it might be argued that some persons do, but no one in the West, that I’m aware of, automatically assumes that a person with a tattoo has it for some cultic significance).

This is why I personally am not against tattoos (although I don’t have any myself). It seems to me that the prohibition was tied to pagan practices and the need for Israelites to distinguish themselves and not adopt pagan religious rituals. Since that is no longer a concern, the prohibition no longer applies.

But there may be other practical reasons for not getting tattoos. Like you might get tired of it after 20 or 30 years. But I'm sure you're already aware of all these. If you are married or going to be married you may want to check with your spouse or fiancé to see if he likes tattoos and if he likes that tattoo you are wanting to get.
 
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Rissa77

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The mentioning of tattoos in Leveticus 19:28 appears to be couched in a section dealing with cultic practices: interpreting omens, telling fortunes, rounding off the hair, marring the edges of the beard, and cuttings for the dead.

As such it’s possible that this prohibition is tied to some cultic ritual. If this is the case, then the act of tattooing may be permissible once the cultic associations have been dissolved. Today, in western cultures, tattoos have no cultic associations (although I suppose it might be argued that some persons do, but no one in the West, that I’m aware of, automatically assumes that a person with a tattoo has it for some cultic significance).

This is why I personally am not against tattoos (although I don’t have any myself). It seems to me that the prohibition was tied to pagan practices and the need for Israelites to distinguish themselves and not adopt pagan religious rituals. Since that is no longer a concern, the prohibition no longer applies.

But there may be other practical reasons for not getting tattoos. Like you might get tired of it after 20 or 30 years. But I'm sure you're already aware of all these. If you are married or going to be married you may want to check with your spouse or fiancé to see if he likes tattoos and if he likes that tattoo you are wanting to get.
I think that it is a matter of personal conscience. I believe that the Levitical passage has to do with paganism. I think that tattooing should not be done casually as it is fairly perminent. I also think that for some it is a matter of pride. Search your heart but we anre not under the law.

I agree with these guys completely.

Look at the context of that verse. Cuts of tattoos for the dead. When they did this, they were worshiping their dead. We don't worship the dead but the living God. So unless you're worshiping your grandmother, I think they're fine. Just take into consideration the practical reasons, like he said.

I want to get a cross tattoo on my wrist too. Then my friends told me I might want to get it elsewhere, because when my is arm down, it would be upside-down, and many take that as a curse toward God. Jennifer said her friend has a cross there, and people give him a lot of grief about it.

So I'm getting it elsewhere. But still praying whether I should get it at all. The pride issue is a big one with tattoos and I don't want to be caught in this fad that's going around the teens.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Also, keep in mind, the location and image. Some businesses, won't hire someone who is "inked up". I'm not sure what the cost of a tattoo is, but I'm sure the money could be put to better use.

Not condeming it thought.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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If you look at the history of tattoos it was a sign of worshiping the devil. So if you tattoo something that glorifies God you're good. :)
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I dont see a problem with it. I personally wouldnt get one because i think it makes someones skin look dirty.
 
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MaggieMye

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Eating unclean meat is also in the old testament. The same reasoning for tattoos should be used here as well. To each their own in that regard but do it in faith. True. However, diet was re-addressed in the NT (Acts 10) whereas cutting and tattooing are not. Therefore IT STANDS that these occultic and demonic practices are to be avoided. These practices were forbidden by God because they were acts that the pagans did in the worship of their false Gods. Scripture still stands.
1 Thessalonians 5:22
Abstain from all appearance of evil.

1 Corinthians 6:19
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?

 
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panda_girl

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i'm just gonna say, i have no problem with tatoos. i'll be getting one in a couple years, i have a friend who is a very strong christian that is a tatoo artist. and, on of the pastors at my church has a few tatoos, and if he's going to hell for something as minimal as that inspite of all the souls he's saved... then i'm in trouble...
 
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I dont see a problem with it. I personally wouldnt get one because i think it makes someones skin look dirty.


I agree with this,

Most of my friends have tatoos. I never. The reason... One day I will be someones bubba and a drooping or flabby image of a bunny with a cross necklace riding a harley... well it just doesnt match the canning, pierogi pinching, Bible reading, bread making (occasional sneaking out on a harley when no ones looking) grannie I strive to be one day... Also, what moral authority would I have to say not on your life...the day my son turns 15 and wants to get woodie woodpecker in a leather jacket on his arm.
 
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MetalDude_iMosh

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When i went to TomFest last August in Camas if your not from the Oregon or Washington or California area then you might not now what TomFest is. It's a several day long (The Other Music) festival where believers worship christ in their own ways through hardcore/metal music. Anyways... most of the people around my age and younger had tattoos and a few piercings here and there that i saw while me and my best friend were at TomFest.

I for myself i don't have any tattoos or piercings. So i was the odd duck in the crowd without them or without any lol :p

But i don't see anything wrong with a few tattoos or one or two piercings. As long as it's glorifying God with your tattoo then i don't see anything wrong with it. People sometimes seem to think that if you get a tattoo that it's going to change you somehow as long as your rooted in the lord's love and lifting him up in mind and are wanting to honor him. But prayer is the key thing to do with any kind of tattoos or a piercing. Pray pray pray about it.

My great great christian friend Zach who i was really good friends with in high school. He was killed in Texas just only two months after he moved there it really shook me after i heard that and went to his funeral. He was my only friend in real life,besides my Dad that really helped me with my walk with Christ.

Long story short, i have been for a years now thinking about getting a Christian themed tattoo in some way of my friend Zach.
 
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So I was thinking about how cool it'd be to get a treble celf tattoo for my next birthday.. or even better, a cross...not anything major, but just to get people to see it, perhaps on my wrist...
however, an amplified version of the bible says this..

"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."

So, what are peoples opinions? I found this unintentionally... kinda.... but I'm sure there are many out there who have had some done, I'm not sure. Hmm..
I don’t think you should get a tattoo. Sixty years from now you might not want it.
 
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whatchair1219

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As Christian with tats, I obviously don't have a problem with them. Unfortunately, for me, I was not living the type of lifestyle I should have been at the time, so now I have one that I want to try and get removed and another that I am going to alter to say something different. My third and most recent one is, I am told, my coolest one. I was going to make it my avatar pic, but I was not sure of the appropriateness. It is an ambigram of the words SINNER and Saint...cuz I IS the former and STRIVE to be the latter. God Bless!

P.S. If there are others out there that have tat regret like myself, I found this product that may just be a relatively good solution. I have not the funds to try it, so I only going by the description. Check it out here Tat-Med - An in-depth review of the TatMed tattoo removal system
 
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theinfinitehope

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Piercing can lead to harmfull effects if done incorectly. Tattoos can also do this if infected or done wrong. Most places I've seen that perform tattoos I would not set foot in. Some malls offer piercing, but I'd question if they have the ablity to treat a harmfull infection if one devolped. Do I really nead to get one? What benifit does it have for me?
The answer is really - none. Piercings have no medical or health benifits, nor do tatoos.
Now, if you have a medical condtion, say - you are alergic to something - I would have no issue with you getting a medical tatoo, they are more of a sure way for EMT's to know what not to give you. If your diabetic and fear losing your id-tag, a tatoo might be a soultion, however- for the diabetic, getting a tatoo should be done via a doctor and specalist who know what they are doing, to avoid complatactions.

Now, none of this has anything to do with scritpure. I can not make a case for or agenst this myself, from scripture, but I trust others have. The only referance I know of would be:
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body,"

I'm not sure if I myself follow this ideal or not. I do try to eat right, but I do not currently have a normal exersise retune that I should be following. However, idealy - I should- this is an "ought". If I treat my body well, it will last longer. What of the spirt however? If I'm not treating my temple well, perhaps the spirt too, is suffering, so I "ought" to do better in my own treatment of my body. That meens eating right, exersising, not putting things in my body that will harm it. I should do this. I might fail in some regard, and seeing that failing I might want and desire to inprove.

Just because someone ELSE is not doing all they can to treat there body as a temple does not meen you should not do all you can to hold up this ideal.

Thus, if you feel that putting a pircing into you would be not treating your body well, dont do it - same for tatoo. I'd also use the above idea that you have no benifit from doing it, its vanity. Its just to make yourself look a difernt way then you are now. If you can provde a health reasion for doing it (medical tatoo, medical piercing of some sort) then that part of the debate would go away. The second part is more about the spirtual side of things, and harder to nail down.

Both these ideas, the phyiscal being of no benifit and the spirtal pontenaly being hurt by it, lead my conclusion to be that you should not get a tatoo or piercing unless you can refute prevous spriptural augments that others have made, and give good mediacal and health reasions FOR getting one.

Unless and untill you can do this, you should not get a tatoo or picering.

If you allready HAVE one - that is a seprate issue, the dammage is done, your forgiven. You do not have to defend it. No one is perfect. You made an error, its forgiven and forgoten.

This issue is about "getting" not "having"