Who is the God Jesus serves?

[theQuestiion]

Your welcome . Question.
I tend to be as respectful as possible ,even if we don’t agree . When talking to others concerning subjects as seriousl as Biblical doctrine I desire clarity before agreement. Anger and sharp words tend to muddy the waters . I have also discovered that anger on either side of a discussion can cause one to set up unnecessary emotional walls . Just to be clear I think your in error. Its just
I believe folks can talk without throwing arrows.
Blessings
Bill

That is why I thank you; I have become very bitter against CHURCHianity for its foul slander of my Lord and my God- and how it has Deceived the World.

 

[theQuestiion]

So then why are you a JW?

Because my brotherhood, even with all its flaws, has the same Objective; to serve the King and to praise the Only True God.

 

[theQuestiion]

Since the principle of eternal is not defined by the doctrine of men but by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for the truth to be a lie.

The eternal is a living being or life form;
A) whom has no beginning (birth); and
B) whom has no end (death); and
C) whom there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning (change).

You have the wrong take; Jesus has and is an Everlasting Father to us- as Jehovah is to him, for notice~

Col 1:15- He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; 16- for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

He is not literally God - but is an image of Him, God made all things THROUGH him, and mankind FOR him.
So Jesus is an Eternal Father to us, as well as a Mighty Warrior (God or Tyrant), and a Prince of Peace (even tho King of Kings).

 

[valiant]

You have the wrong take; Jesus has and is an Everlasting Father to us- as Jehovah is to him, for notice~

Col 1:15- He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; 16- for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

He is not literally God - but is an image of Him, God made all things THROUGH him, and mankind FOR him.
So Jesus is an Eternal Father to us, as well as a Mighty Warrior (God or Tyrant), and a Prince of Peace (even tho King of Kings).

He is by His own confession uniquely the Son of God (John 10.36; 5.25) --- He is 'MY Son' (Matt 3.17; 17.5; 21.27; Mark 1.11) – He is 'The Son' (one and unique - John 5.19 and often) – He is the Father's beloved Son (Matt 17.5; Luke 3.22) - He is the only Son of God (John 1.18; 3.16) – He is the only Son of the Father (John 1.14; Luke 11.22; Matt 11.27) --- He is the First and the Last, the Living One (Rev 1.17) --- He is the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End (Rev 22.13), --- He is the Holy One (John 6.69; Acts 13.35) – He is the LORD (YHWH) (Phil 2,11 and often) --- He is the Lord of Glory (1 Cor 2.8) – He is our great God and Saviour (Tit 2.13; 2 Peter 1.1) --- He is the image of the invisible God (Col 1.15) – He is the outshining of His glory and the express image of His substance (Heb 1.3) --- In Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form (Col 2.9).


He is omnipresent (Heb 1.3; Matt 18.20; 28.29), He is omniscient in Heaven (Matt 11.27), He is judge of the living and the dead (2 Tim 4.1), He will bring about the resurrection (John 5.25-29), Men call on His Name (1 Cor 1.1-2; Acts 7.59).

HE IS GOD.

 

[theQuestiion]

God is no ones son.

 

[theQuestiion]

"[FONT=&quot]He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of [/FONT][FONT=&quot]my[/FONT][FONT=&quot] God!" - Jesus, Rev 3[/FONT]

 

[heartofdavid]

Jesus is creator. He is God.

That is a fact.

That is a fact you attempt to muddy up.

All that jibberish anti Christ mess you spew is watchtower indoctrination.

 

[theQuestiion]

Jesus is creator. He is God.
That is a fact.
That is a fact you attempt to muddy up.
All that jibberish anti Christ mess you spew is watchtower indoctrination.

My, he rejects the very words of Jesus- and claims to be a Christian.
How...churchy

 

[phil36]

Hi Question,

Do you believe the following?:

Michael the great prince is none other than Jesus himself [Watchtower 15/12/84 p29

 

[theQuestiion]

Hi Question,
Do you believe the following?:

Yes.
" For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel".

AS he leads God's angels.

 

[heartofdavid]

That is why I thank you; I have become very bitter against CHURCHianity for its foul slander of my Lord and my God- and how it has Deceived the World.

Jehovah is not antichrist

Jehovah call Jesus God.

You deny the Son,therefore Jehovah is not your lord.

 

[heartofdavid]

God is no ones son.

Jesus is not the Father.

The Father call Jesus God.

Your double talk has you painted in a corner.

You are 99% conjecture "supported" by misaligned verses.

All you are doing is proving the bible,sifted through the mind,says whatever you want it to say.

 

[theQuestiion]

I will just ignore him, since he rejects ANY scripture I post....

 

[phil36]

Yes.
" For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel".

AS he leads God's angels.

16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 1 Thess 4:16


Can you see your folly here, it does not say the dead will rise in the archangel, but only and only in Christ Jesus. The archangel is not Jesus, nor is satan jesus' brother.

The archangel is only and instrument God uses, Jesus is God.

 

[Depleted]

"I Am" is the typical mistranslation of the Hebrew Name God used only once, and of which Jesus never used.
"Godman" is a fiction of CHURCHianity- unless you have 2 or 3: God SENT His son, He (or One of 'Them') didn't come Himself...AND Jesus was not "Eternal"- for he DIED- AGAIN contrary to CHURCHianity- but certainly not the Bible!

Wrongo! Jesus did say he was I Am! And clear enough that the Pharisees said he blasphemed.

John 8:58 [FONT=&quot]Jesus said to them, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”[/FONT]

I don't see you on this site for long. It's a Christian site, and one doctrine we all stand under is Trinity.

 

[theQuestiion]

16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 1 Thess 4:16

Can you see your folly here, it does not say the dead will rise in the archangel, but only and only in Christ Jesus. The archangel is not Jesus, nor is satan jesus' brother.

The archangel is only and instrument God uses, Jesus is God.

Jesus speaks as the archangel.
Jesus leads and commands the angels, whom he was raised above.
NO spin can ever change that.

 

[theQuestiion]

Wrongo! Jesus did say he was I Am! And clear enough that the Pharisees said he blasphemed.

John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

I don't see you on this site for long. It's a Christian site, and one doctrine we all stand under is Trinity.

No- he didn't speak e-bonics.
He never used that ancient Hebrew Name.
He used "ego eimi" as everyone else did- to say he WAS there.
Need me to post what the Greek term really means?

 

[valiant]

Jesus speaks as the archangel.

WRONG, He is accompanied by the voice of an archangel just as He is accompanied by the trump of God.

Jesus leads and commands the angels, whom he was raised above

The SON always was above the angels and the archangels. He does not lead them, He is accompanied BY them.

NO spin can ever change that.

No spin is needed. It is obvious to all honest readers.

 

[theQuestiion]

WRONG, He is accompanied by the voice of an archangel just as He is accompanied by the trump of God.
The SON always was above the angels and the archangels. He does not lead them, He is accompanied BY them.
No spin is needed. It is obvious to all honest readers.

Oh, just Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!
"accompanied by the voice of an archangel".

ONLY in CHURCHianity!
It is obvious to all honest readers.
But not to YOU.

 

[valiant]

No- he didn't speak e-bonics.
He never used that ancient Hebrew Name.

It is found in Exodus 3.

He used "ego eimi" as everyone else did- to say he WAS there.

But ego eimi does not mean I WAS THERE. It means I AM ALWAYS THERE. No one else used ego eimi like He did,

No Hebrew would call himself the I AM, whether eyeh or ego eimi or ho on.

Need me to post what the Greek term really means?

Simple, when contrasted with 'he was' it means I AM, the eternally existing One. Are you a master of Greek and Hebrew? Or just a charlatan,?