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Isayah 5:20, "Woe to those who call evil righteous, and righteous evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Corinthians 5:15, "and He died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died for them, and was raised.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 15:5-16, "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, produces much fruit; but without Me, you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away like a branch, and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. If you abide in Me, and letting My words; abide in you, you will ask what you will, and it will be done for you. In this is My Father glorified: when you produce much fruit; and in this way you become My disciples. Just as the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you; continue in My love. If you keep My Commands, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's Commands, and abide in His love. These things I have spoken to you, that My joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be complete. This is My Command: Love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: that one would lay down his life on behalf of his brothers. You are My brothers, if you do whatever I command you."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 26:5, “Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my Laws.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 4:3, “For what does the Scripture say? “Aḇraham believed Yah, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]By belief, Aḇraham obeyed
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:3:18-19, “And to whom did He swear that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey? we see that they were unable to enter in because of unbelief."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Corinthians 5:15, "and He died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died for them, and was raised.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 15:5-16, "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, produces much fruit; but without Me, you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away like a branch, and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. If you abide in Me, and letting My words; abide in you, you will ask what you will, and it will be done for you. In this is My Father glorified: when you produce much fruit; and in this way you become My disciples. Just as the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you; continue in My love. If you keep My Commands, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's Commands, and abide in His love. These things I have spoken to you, that My joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be complete. This is My Command: Love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: that one would lay down his life on behalf of his brothers. You are My brothers, if you do whatever I command you."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 26:5, “Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my Laws.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 4:3, “For what does the Scripture say? “Aḇraham believed Yah, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]By belief, Aḇraham obeyed
[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:3:18-19, “And to whom did He swear that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey? we see that they were unable to enter in because of unbelief."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."[/FONT]
let me explain this to you workers and Hebrew rooters - Genesis 12- God called Abram- grace- Abram believed-faith- Abram took his family and began the journey- works. just as Paul said-grace , faith, works.
this is why we should rightly read the Bible. meaning accepting clear concepts with out trying to re-define them.
this is why we should rightly read the Bible. meaning accepting clear concepts with out trying to re-define them.
Seeing how I never said the following....your implication makes you into a false accuser......hence breaking the very LAW you push and claim to uphold....so...did you lose salvation for doing such?
Originally Posted by loveme1
To obey Christ's Instructions is not comparable to lucifer' fall.. what type of belief system are you partaking in?
Originally Posted by loveme1
Seeing how I never said the following....your implication makes you into a false accuser......hence breaking the very LAW you push and claim to uphold....so...did you lose salvation for doing such?
Originally Posted by loveme1
To obey Christ's Instructions is not comparable to lucifer' fall.. what type of belief system are you partaking in?
Originally Posted by loveme1
and the adversary did not put emphasis on saying "I must follow Yahshua/Jesus" the adversary hated everything righteous and the Messiah and did everything in oppisition. So your statement was wrong anyway. the adversary sought to take the throne of Yah thus trying to be higher than Yah. Even if a human says "I want to use all my heart all my strength and all my might to follow Yah" it is not bad. Actually it's required:
Mat 22:36-40, "Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law? Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might (Deuteronomy 6:5). This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Leviticus 19:18). On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Does it say I will love God for you?
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You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might
You must, not you may, or it's optional, you must...
His words....
If obeying my Lord and Saviour is saving myself to you then so be it.. my heart obeys the One that came and saved me and I Believe His Testament above you and your accusations of.
Do do not equate those that follow Christ to the fall of lucifer.. you run your mouth without fear of what you propose.. and you should stop for your own sake because any misled by your teaching will be upon you.
Do do not equate those that follow Christ to the fall of lucifer.. you run your mouth without fear of what you propose.. and you should stop for your own sake because any misled by your teaching will be upon you.
Rightly so.. but you understand not what Paul is saying.. which is the error of your ways...
James also inspired explains it splendidly.. Peter knew beforehand Paul's writings would be controversial.. and it is so.. but Paul taught it was important to Keep the Commandments and each writing all affirms to the Messiah's Testament.
James also inspired explains it splendidly.. Peter knew beforehand Paul's writings would be controversial.. and it is so.. but Paul taught it was important to Keep the Commandments and each writing all affirms to the Messiah's Testament.
BLAH blah blah LAWYER/PHARISEE.......KEEP proving your guilt by attempting to adhere to that which proves your guilt.....let me know how keeping it 24/7/365 goes for you.....HIS testament is and was to have his righteousness imputed by faith WITHOUT THE LAW.....and that which proves GUILT will NEVER justify before GOD
Remember....if you do not OBEY ALL applicable LAWS 24/7/365 your whole life you are guilty...........and condemned.....I suggest Romans 3.......and the righteousness of Christ WITHOUT the LAW applied by faith and IMPUTED by faith.....the same righteousness Abraham had applied before he ever done ONE WORK for GOD!
Remember....if you do not OBEY ALL applicable LAWS 24/7/365 your whole life you are guilty...........and condemned.....I suggest Romans 3.......and the righteousness of Christ WITHOUT the LAW applied by faith and IMPUTED by faith.....the same righteousness Abraham had applied before he ever done ONE WORK for GOD!
Yep the bolded fits you well.....I fully understand what IMPUTED by FAITH without WORKS means........and also RIGHTEOUSNESS without the LAW.......
THE LAW PROVES YOUR GUILT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT KEEP IT.....wake up and realize the bolded applies unto yourself and your erroneous working for ATTEMPTED law abiding view....emphasis upon ATTEMPTED
THE LAW PROVES YOUR GUILT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT KEEP IT.....wake up and realize the bolded applies unto yourself and your erroneous working for ATTEMPTED law abiding view....emphasis upon ATTEMPTED
The funniest thing on this site....the LAWYERS and PHARISEES that dogmatically push obeying the LAWS of YESHUA with all their verbiage and yet they regularly break the LAW they claim to uphold......no wonder JESUS called the Pharisees hypocrites........seems that apple does not fall far from the tree......
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I have no bitterness at all....just cannot stand false ideology that binds the hands of men into a position of bondage.....like the kind the LAWYERS and PHARISEES push...a LAW abiding working for dogma.....similar to the 1st century and what JESUS actually came to set men free from.......
THAT which proves GUILT will NEVER set you free....THE LAW<----the strength of SIN proves your guilt because YOU cannot keep it...EVER!
It is not an error to believe and obey the Messiah. Those not born again are at enmity to GOD's Law.. that is so and that is why through Faith we receive the Holy Spirit that guides and comforts us reminding us of all Truth.
You lack Faith because the Messiah taught us to Keep the Law and I believe Him..
You lack Faith because the Messiah taught us to Keep the Law and I believe Him..
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 4:4-5, “For I know nothing by myself; yet by this I am not justified, for He Who judges me is [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]! Therefore, judge nothing before the time. Wait until Yahshua comes, Who will bring to light the things hidden in darkness, and will reveal the secret intentions of men's hearts; and then each man will receive praise from [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]