The burden of the Lord

[comingfrom]

The Bible is pretty intimidating, when you first come to it.

At first I was inclined to agree with those Christians who say God doesn't expect us to keep it,
and it doesn't really need to be done like He says in there.

But Jesus came, and He was encouraging me on, and He keeps saying to do it, doesn't He.
You know how it is, numerous attempts from the start of Genesis. False starts.
Occasional tentative glances at Leviticus and Deuteronomy and Numbers, and thinking, what the...?
And, How am I ever going to make head or tails of all this?

How about. ask the Christians. You would think, they will know.
But they are no help.
They don't even keep it themselves.
Nope, I even asked their priests and pastors, and their answer is always, don't need to bother with it.
Ended. Finished. Sin and Death. Curse. Old Covenant. Nailed to the cross. Faith. Saved by Grace. Jesus died for you.
Yeah yeah, I heard all that before.
But that doesn't help me to understand the law.

I mean. Even if didn't need to be kept, I still wanted to understand it.
I wanted to know what all the fuss is about.
How can such a wonderful God have such a wicked mean law, that it had to end?
Is it so wicked and mean, as men make out?

Then, while I was still wrestling with all this, by some twist of fate,
I had the fortune, or some might say misfortune, of having to visit a lawyer.
It wasn't for me, but my friend had some legal matter, and I was tagging along.
While they were discussing and going over papers I just sat there in the office patiently waiting,
looking around. Looking at all the walls were bookshelves stacked with big black volumes,
from floor to ceiling, covering wall after wall.
And as I looked, I read the titles on the binders and it slowly dawned on me,
wow, all that is the law of the land.
All those huge volumes, which looked like would take a lifetime to read,
and I imagined how boring that would be, were the laws of Australia.
I suddenly had compassion for the man.
He had to study all that to become a lawyer.
Of course, he keeps a copy of it all, for no man could possibly remember all that.
Yet we are all expected to keep it.

Then I thought about the first five books in the Bible, which contains God's laws for us.
Just five books.
Five really slim books.
And the commandments really only start half way through Exodus, the second book,
and all of Leviticus and Deuteronomy,
and really not much more commandments in Numbers (but there are some).
So really, only half of those five slims books is law.
We are down to 2 and half slim books.

You say, What about the rest of the Bible? It's huge.
Yes, and it is all help with how to keep the law.
That is what all the rest of the Bible is.
The prophets and Jesus and the Apostles explaining the commandments, and how to keep them.
By word and by example.

So, the burden of the lord.
We have two and half slim books to understand and do, and our whole lifetime to do it in.
And lots and lots of help from all the mighty men in Israel.
And Jesus comes to help too.

Compared to the law of men in the country you now reside in,
God's law is piece of cake.
It's a walk in the park.
It's a Sunday picnic.
Literally.

Bless God
Paul

 

[Rokurac]

I beg to differ. The law is difficult. Knowing to do good and not doing it is sin. Everything that is not out of faith is sin. Its a lose-lose situation with the law.

 

[NayborBear]

The Bible is pretty intimidating, when you first come to it.

At first I was inclined to agree with those Christians who say God doesn't expect us to keep it,
and it doesn't really need to be done like He says in there.

But Jesus came, and He was encouraging me on, and He keeps saying to do it, doesn't He.
You know how it is, numerous attempts from the start of Genesis. False starts.
Occasional tentative glances at Leviticus and Deuteronomy and Numbers, and thinking, what the...?
And, How am I ever going to make head or tails of all this?

How about. ask the Christians. You would think, they will know.
But they are no help.
They don't even keep it themselves.
Nope, I even asked their priests and pastors, and their answer is always, don't need to bother with it.
Ended. Finished. Sin and Death. Curse. Old Covenant. Nailed to the cross. Faith. Saved by Grace. Jesus died for you.
Yeah yeah, I heard all that before.
But that doesn't help me to understand the law.

I mean. Even if didn't need to be kept, I still wanted to understand it.
I wanted to know what all the fuss is about.
How can such a wonderful God have such a wicked mean law, that it had to end?
Is it so wicked and mean, as men make out?

Then, while I was still wrestling with all this, by some twist of fate,
I had the fortune, or some might say misfortune, of having to visit a lawyer.
It wasn't for me, but my friend had some legal matter, and I was tagging along.
While they were discussing and going over papers I just sat there in the office patiently waiting,
looking around. Looking at all the walls were bookshelves stacked with big black volumes,
from floor to ceiling, covering wall after wall.
And as I looked, I read the titles on the binders and it slowly dawned on me,
wow, all that is the law of the land.
All those huge volumes, which looked like would take a lifetime to read,
and I imagined how boring that would be, were the laws of Australia.
I suddenly had compassion for the man.
He had to study all that to become a lawyer.
Of course, he keeps a copy of it all, for no man could possibly remember all that.
Yet we are all expected to keep it.

Then I thought about the first five books in the Bible, which contains God's laws for us.
Just five books.
Five really slim books.
And the commandments really only start half way through Exodus, the second book,
and all of Leviticus and Deuteronomy,
and really not much more commandments in Numbers (but there are some).
So really, only half of those five slims books is law.
We are down to 2 and half slim books.

You say, What about the rest of the Bible? It's huge.
Yes, and it is all help with how to keep the law.
That is what all the rest of the Bible is.
The prophets and Jesus and the Apostles explaining the commandments, and how to keep them.
By word and by example.

So, the burden of the lord.
We have two and half slim books to understand and do, and our whole lifetime to do it in.
And lots and lots of help from all the mighty men in Israel.
And Jesus comes to help too.

Compared to the law of men in the country you now reside in,
God's law is piece of cake.
It's a walk in the park.
It's a Sunday picnic.
Literally.

Bless God
Paul

What the "established" churches of stone are doing, and hence, the why you are hearing crickets most of the time, is for the larger part, a detriment to them! They are for a larger part....blind! LED, by blind shepherds. And? Should you show any interest in the spiritual aspect/s of being a Christ man/woman, will try and shoo you off to some "higher level of educationary studies." In attempting to make you as blind as they are!

There "premise" of "love bombing" someone new to their particular "establishment of stone", started out, at one time, as a good thing. Although, that was a coupla thousand years ago. Traditions of men, over the years, because they know not why, anymore, has even gone so far as for people to say that Jesus ABOLISHED "the LAW"...How far from the truth, they have drifted! Sure, you've heard "Law?....WHAT law?" "The LAW...is LOVE!" And?, This is true, and correct! What is not correct? Is Love does not cover EVERY sin!! It does "cover" those "missings of the mark", that you have no doubt read in Leviticus, and other places. A doctrine (of men) that Paul was trying to explain to the very first "assemblages of believers", but, then, as well as now, had a tough time in trying to get people to grasp the concept. Even Jehovah, in the O.T. said, that He didn't want their burnt offerings, as they were, and had become so much "smoke in My nostrils!" He, wants your/our/my love!

 

[comingfrom]

You will be amazed, when you begin to get a handle on the law.
You will even be enraptured.

When you find out,
All the things the Christians wonder and bicker about,
and debate with each other in heated debates in the judgment,
are all plainly explained in the law.
No more guessing. No more wondering.
Just delightful things to do.

Just some of the things you will discover, in no particular order.

What God requires of us.
The blood of Jesus. What it is. How to obtain it.
The atonement. How to obtain it.
The washing, which is to be done after Jesus washes us.
The second coming. How it will come to pass.
The promised land, the kingdom of God, and how to become established in it.
Offerings and oblations. How to bring them to God, and how to do them for our fellowmen.
Power over devils. How to identify them, and how to cast them out.

I'll offer up a little scripture study now,
this is especially for those that are born again in Jesus.
If you haven't had that experience, this may be of interest, or you might not be able to relate.
It would be worth noting. for when Jesus does come.
I hope to prepare others that they be better prepared than I was.

I'll begin in the New Testament to show, that though this is a teaching of law,
the fact we have it confirmed in the New Testament shows that it still applies.

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
Unto Him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in His own blood,
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father;
to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Revelation 1:5-6

A beautiful passage, you have to agree.
But I want to draw your attention to two things in those two verses.
Washed us from our sins in His own blood, and hath made us priests.
Yes, I know He says, kings and priests unto God, but for the next passage coming up,
remember He said I will make you a priest.

And the priest shall look on the plague, after that it is washed:
and, behold, if the plague have not changed his colour, and the plague be not spread;
it is unclean;
thou shalt burn it in the fire;
it is fret inward, whether it be bare within or without.
And if the priest look, and, behold, the plague be somewhat dark after the washing of it;
then he shall rend it out of the garment,
or out of the skin, or out of the warp, or out of the woof:
And if it appear still in the garment,
either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin;
it is a spreading plague:
thou shalt burn that wherein the plague is with fire.
And the garment,
either warp, or woof, or whatsoever thing of skin it be,
which thou shalt wash,
if the plague be departed from them, then it shall be washed the second time,
and shall be clean.
Leviticus 13:55-58

So, from the verse in Revelation, we know who the priest is, that is us.
And we are instructed to look upon our garments, after it is washed.
And Revelation told us Jesus washed us, and I know many of you have experienced it.
But you probably weren't informed by fellow believers to examine your garments.
I know I wasn't.
Now garments probably needs some explanation.
Either warp or woof or whatever thing of skin it be.
Well, it is whatever Jesus washed, for a start.
Mostly we say He washed our heart.
The phrase, "whatever thing of skin it be", kind of answers it for me.
We can't really know what it is, but it is the garment of our soul, or our inward parts.
When we say our heart, we don't really mean our fleshy muscle, do we.
Our aura, or mantle, also works for me.

OK, hopefully you are still following.
Did you check your garments, after Jesus washed you?
It took me a little while to find this law, but whence I did,
then I undertook to wash my robes.

So I looked, and even though Jesus had washed me, it was still somewhat dark.
You know, I felt so delivered, so happy, so renewed, after Jesus washed me,
I didn't even think to look.
But then, after coming across that scripture, then I did look,
and there were still some dark thoughts in me.
And I still, through habit, kept some falsehoods.
I couldn't identify them all yet, but some stuck out, so I knew there must be more.

I got to work burning them out.
Some took a fair bit of groaning in the spirit in order to rip them free.
And the more you wash, the more spot you see, the more you find to wash.
Hence the need for second cleaning, and maybe a third and fourth.

Every non Jesus saying had to come out.
Any little "but" against keeping any law, and any word of God, must go.
There are a few sabbaths necessary, to commune with Lord,
to help you get your cleaning done right and complete.

Now we can go back to Revelation, to see what we have done.

And one of the elders answered, saying unto me,
What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me,
These are they which came out of great tribulation,
and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Revelation 7:14

Again, the New Testament, for me at least, is confirming the need to do the law,
if we want to be among the white robes that is.
The washing is a commandment in the law, for we priests unto God to do,
after Jesus has washed us.

Now as if this wasn't surprise enough for me,
I found a really surprising description of what Jesus done, in the day that He washed us,
in Judges, of all places.
So don't think people didn't get born again by Jesus before He came as man, or before He died on the cross.
Abraham saw His day, and so did many others.
It is described in the Old Testament better than it is described anywhere else.

Now these are the nations which the LORD left, to prove Israel by them,
even as many of Israel as had not known all the wars of Canaan;
Only that the generations of the children of Israel might know,
to teach them war, at the least such as before knew nothing thereof;
Namely, five lords of the Philistines, and all the Canaanites,
and the Sidonians, and the Hivites that dwelt in mount Lebanon,
from mount Baal-hermon unto the entering in of Hamath.
And they were to prove Israel by them,
to know whether they would hearken unto the commandments of the LORD,
which he commanded their fathers by the hand of Moses.
Judges 3:1-4


You may have to try a bit here, the Lord is kind of speaking in tongues to us.
I'll put NT equivalent terminology to help.
Try also to see it in context with the whole story of His people.
He has just brought them out of Egypt, and they are in the new land.

So we are Israel (child of God), and the Lord (Jesus) left some nations (spirits) in us,
after He brought us to the kingdom of God.
So that we might learn war (but not as we knew war before).
This war is the period of washing, after the Lord delivered us from the main nations (devils),
which were preventing us occupying the new land (heaven).
But now we are in heaven, doing the commandments of that new land.
Washing the plagues out of our garment is one analogy,
driving evil tribes and wicked Lords out from within is another analogy for the same thing.
A period of cleansing.

You see, this is another thing that many Christians don't realize, don't teach.
Jesus talks about casting out devils or evil spirits,
but in the Old Testament Jesus goes into great depth on the subject.
Jesus didn't have to say much about the subject when He came as a man, because it was already covered,
and He knows His faithful followers will get to it, when they go to do His law.

And why does Jesus leave some devils in us?
To try us.
It is very clearly stated.
To know if we will keep the law that came by Moses, or not.
For a lot of people are insincere, but He delivers them from their main devils anyway, if they ask.
But if they are half-hearted, it doesn't take long for the relatively harmless ones He left to go get their mates,
and before you know, whole tribes are coming in through the gates of Hamath.
But those that go on to keep the laws of Moses, go on to clean all those Canaanites out of the land.
And have the pleasure of slaying those five Philistine Lords.

And yes, you can go into the terms used here, which are also revealing.
The devils enter in at Hamath, which makes Hamath the gate of our garments,
or the gate to the land that is us.
Mount Baal-hermon is the peak of evil in us.
But they are all over Mount Lebanon too, which you should have figured by now,
from other uses of the terms Mount Lebanon, and Cedars of Lebanon,
is the holy mountain in us.
It doesn't take much to decipher when you try.

And indeed, we are Israel,
the Lord has given us a great land,
and Jesus, seed of David, is our Lord and shepherd.
And He feeds us.

Thank God

I don't mind questions,
or you can try to kill my bullocks. I don't mind.
Paul

 

[comingfrom]

I beg to differ. The law is difficult.

I didn't say it was easy.
But Jesus did.

For My yoke is easy,
and My burden is light.
Matthew 11:30

I can tell you, it gets easy pretty quickly, once you overcome some of your main obstacles.

Look upon the difficulty as the measure of how far you are from God.
The further we are from Him, the weirder and more difficult His word looks.

Knowing to do good and not doing it is sin. Everything that is not out of faith is sin. Its a lose-lose situation with the law.

You are kind of putting up your own law here.
Which includes a unfavourable judgment on God''s law.

So are you going to keep those fig leaves, instead of keeping God's words and laws?

And why take ye thought for raiment?
Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
Matthew 6:28-27

Paul

 

[comingfrom]

Bless you, NayborBear.

What the "established" churches of stone are doing, and hence, the why you are hearing crickets most of the time, is for the larger part, a detriment to them! They are for a larger part....blind! LED, by blind shepherds. And? Should you show any interest in the spiritual aspect/s of being a Christ man/woman, will try and shoo you off to some "higher level of educationary studies." In attempting to make you as blind as they are!

There "premise" of "love bombing" someone new to their particular "establishment of stone", started out, at one time, as a good thing. Although, that was a coupla thousand years ago. Traditions of men, over the years, because they know not why, anymore, has even gone so far as for people to say that Jesus ABOLISHED "the LAW"...How far from the truth, they have drifted! Sure, you've heard "Law?....WHAT law?" "The LAW...is LOVE!" And?, This is true, and correct! What is not correct? Is Love does not cover EVERY sin!! It does "cover" those "missings of the mark", that you have no doubt read in Leviticus, and other places. A doctrine (of men) that Paul was trying to explain to the very first "assemblages of believers", but, then, as well as now, had a tough time in trying to get people to grasp the concept. Even Jehovah, in the O.T. said, that He didn't want their burnt offerings, as they were, and had become so much "smoke in My nostrils!" He, wants your/our/my love!

Do you have an issue with God's law?

When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh,
because of his issue he is unclean.
And this shall be his uncleanness in his issue:
whether his flesh run with his issue, or his flesh be stopped from his issue,
it is his uncleanness.
Deuteronomy 15:2-3

Praise God
Paul

 

[NayborBear]

"I'll offer up a little scripture study now,
this is especially for those that are born again in Jesus.
If you haven't had that experience, this may be of interest, or you might not be able to relate.
It would be worth noting. for when Jesus does come.
I hope to prepare others that they be better prepared than I was."

In regards to this? To be perfectly honest with ya? You can try and talk and talk, in trying to get someone "prepared". But, your efforts would be better served somewheres else. Jesus comes like a "thief in the night."

 

[comingfrom]

Thank you again, NayborBear.

"I'll offer up a little scripture study now,
this is especially for those that are born again in Jesus.
If you haven't had that experience, this may be of interest, or you might not be able to relate.
It would be worth noting. for when Jesus does come.
I hope to prepare others that they be better prepared than I was."

In regards to this? To be perfectly honest with ya? You can try and talk and talk, in trying to get someone "prepared". But, your efforts would be better served somewheres else.

You could go an start you own thread too.

Or if you want to talk gracefully, about why you have issues with what I say,
then we can discuss.

[FONT=&quot]Jesus comes like a "thief in the night."[/FONT]

I can already see you with Him tonight.

And you saying,
"Ha, should of seen me today, how I gave to those teachers of the law, dear Lord."
"What do You reckon?"
"Did I draw blood or what? Did I kill their beasts?"

You can kill my beasts if you want.
Kill them here in the camp, or kill them out of the camp.
Do with them what you will.
Only don't eat the blood.

Paul

 

[gb9]

I didn't say it was easy.
But Jesus did.

For My yoke is easy,
and My burden is light.
Matthew 11:30

I can tell you, it gets easy pretty quickly, once you overcome some of your main obstacles.

Look upon the difficulty as the measure of how far you are from God.
The further we are from Him, the weirder and more difficult His word looks.
You are kind of putting up your own law here.
Which includes a unfavourable judgment on God''s law.

So are you going to keep those fig leaves, instead of keeping God's words and laws?

And why take ye thought for raiment?
Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
Matthew 6:28-27

Paul

Jesus was referring to the law being the yoke of bondage in Matthew 11. he was not pointing toward the Torah, he was pointing at Himself. the word rest is used twice in the previous 2 verses. rest is the opposite of work.

 

[NayborBear]

Don't have issues, bro. Tryin' to guide ya in how to better use efforts. If ya see this as issues I have? Or, to put it another way? If you are seeing "splinters" in my eyes?

 

[Studyman]

Jesus was referring to the law being the yoke of bondage in Matthew 11. he was not pointing toward the Torah, he was pointing at Himself. the word rest is used twice in the previous 2 verses. rest is the opposite of work.

that is your preaching, not the Bibles.

1 John. 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.


Matt. 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Jer. 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

The Burden on mankind is not God's Commandments and instruction. It is man's commandments and instruction. It is being deceived and preaching lies. It is being held by the death that transgressing God's Commandments by your own doctrines and Traditions causes.

This is what Paul taught.

Rom. 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness,(His Commandments and instruction) and going about to establish their own righteousness, (Doctrines and Traditions of men)have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

It wasn't God's Righteousness that burdened the Mainstream Church of that time, it was a religion that created their own righteousness and rejected God's Instruction.

This is what the Bible teaches when you include EVERY Word of God, and not just a few that can be twisted to support church traditions not found in the Bible.

 

[NayborBear]

This is from the New Living Translation: Ezekiel-13


1 Then this message came to me from the LORD :
2 “Son of man, prophesy against the false prophets of Israel who are inventing their own prophecies. Say to them, ‘Listen to the word of the LORD .
3 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: What sorrow awaits the false prophets who are following their own imaginations and have seen nothing at all!’
4 “O people of Israel, these prophets of yours are like jackals digging in the ruins.
5 They have done nothing to repair the breaks in the walls around the nation. They have not helped it to stand firm in battle on the day of the LORD .
6 Instead, they have told lies and made false predictions. They say, ‘This message is from the LORD,’ even though the LORD never sent them. And yet they expect him to fulfill their prophecies!
7 Can your visions be anything but false if you claim, ‘This message is from the LORD,’ when I have not even spoken to you?
8 “Therefore, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because what you say is false and your visions are a lie, I will stand against you, says the Sovereign LORD .
9 I will raise my fist against all the prophets who see false visions and make lying predictions, and they will be banished from the community of Israel. I will blot their names from Israel’s record books, and they will never again set foot in their own land. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD .
10 “This will happen because these evil prophets deceive my people by saying, ‘All is peaceful’ when there is no peace at all! It’s as if the people have built a flimsy wall, and these prophets are trying to reinforce it by covering it with whitewash!
11 Tell these whitewashers that their wall will soon fall down. A heavy rainstorm will undermine it; great hailstones and mighty winds will knock it down.
12 And when the wall falls, the people will cry out, ‘What happened to your whitewash?’
13 “Therefore, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will sweep away your whitewashed wall with a storm of indignation, with a great flood of anger, and with hailstones of fury.
14 I will break down your wall right to its foundation, and when it falls, it will crush you. Then you will know that I am the LORD .
15 At last my anger against the wall and those who covered it with whitewash will be satisfied. Then I will say to you: ‘The wall and those who whitewashed it are both gone.
16 They were lying prophets who claimed peace would come to Jerusalem when there was no peace. I, the Sovereign LORD, have spoken!’
17 “Now, son of man, speak out against the women who prophesy from their own imaginations.
18 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: What sorrow awaits you women who are ensnaring the souls of my people, young and old alike. You tie magic charms on their wrists and furnish them with magic veils. Do you think you can trap others without bringing destruction on yourselves?
19 You bring shame on me among my people for a few handfuls of barley or a piece of bread. By lying to my people who love to listen to lies, you kill those who should not die, and you promise life to those who should not live.
20 “This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against all your magic charms, which you use to ensnare my people like birds. I will tear them from your arms, setting my people free like birds set free from a cage.
21 I will tear off the magic veils and save my people from your grasp. They will no longer be your victims. Then you will know that I am the LORD .
22 You have discouraged the righteous with your lies, but I didn’t want them to be sad. And you have encouraged the wicked by promising them life, even though they continue in their sins.
23 Because of all this, you will no longer talk of seeing visions that you never saw, nor will you make predictions. For I will rescue my people from your grasp. Then you will know that I am the LORD .”

 

[comingfrom]

Thank you, GB.

Jesus is pointing me to Moses.

Jesus was referring to the law being the yoke of bondage in Matthew 11. he was not pointing toward the Torah, he was pointing at Himself. the word rest is used twice in the previous 2 verses. rest is the opposite of work.

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me:
for he wrote of Me.But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe My words?
John 12:50

Remember ye the law of Moses My servant,
which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel,
with the statutes and judgments.
Malachi 4:4

Of course, Jesus is teaching the rest which is a commandment in the law.
If you knew the law, then you would understand what Jesus is teaching here.
It is all in Leviticus.

But because you have forsaken the law, you think Jesus is confirming you in forsaking it,
when actually He is teaching it to you.
Because you hardly ever open your Bible to those pages, that's why you don't realize.

Remember the word which Moses the servant of the LORD commanded you,
saying, The LORD your God hath given you rest, and hath given you this land.
Joshua 1:13

The kingdom of heaven is at hand
Paul

 

[Magenta]

Whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

It is impossible for you (or anyone) to keep all of the law.

Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope.For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

 

[gb9]

that is your preaching, not the Bibles.

1 John. 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.


Matt. 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Jer. 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

The Burden on mankind is not God's Commandments and instruction. It is man's commandments and instruction. It is being deceived and preaching lies. It is being held by the death that transgressing God's Commandments by your own doctrines and Traditions causes.

This is what Paul taught.

Rom. 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness,(His Commandments and instruction) and going about to establish their own righteousness, (Doctrines and Traditions of men)have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

It wasn't God's Righteousness that burdened the Mainstream Church of that time, it was a religion that created their own righteousness and rejected God's Instruction.

This is what the Bible teaches when you include EVERY Word of God, and not just a few that can be twisted to support church traditions not found in the Bible.

the Jews in that time called the law " the yoke of bondage ". look it up.

for someone who choose the screenname studyman, you do not seem to do much studying........

 

[phil36]

Thank you, GB.

Jesus is pointing me to Moses.

This is the best laugh I have had all day.. Jesus points you to Moses lol.

All the law and prophets point to Jesus. You need to learn the gospel truth my friend

 

[gb9]

Thank you, GB.

Jesus is pointing me to Moses.
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me:
for he wrote of Me.But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe My words?
John 12:50

Remember ye the law of Moses My servant,
which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel,
with the statutes and judgments.
Malachi 4:4

Of course, Jesus is teaching the rest which is a commandment in the law.
If you knew the law, then you would understand what Jesus is teaching here.
It is all in Leviticus.

But because you have forsaken the law, you think Jesus is confirming you in forsaking it,
when actually He is teaching it to you.
Because you hardly ever open your Bible to those pages, that's why you don't realize.

Remember the word which Moses the servant of the LORD commanded you,
saying, The LORD your God hath given you rest, and hath given you this land.
Joshua 1:13

The kingdom of heaven is at hand
Paul

non -responsive to what I said Jesus was referring to in Matthew 11. just plucking out verses and attempting ( failing ) at building theology around them is false teaching.

 

[notmyown]

This is the best laugh I have had all day.. Jesus points you to Moses lol.

All the law and prophets point to Jesus. You need to learn the gospel truth my friend

And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.


it's HIStory!

 

[comingfrom]

Don't have issues, bro.

Well, that was quite an out pouring of flesh for one without an issue.

[FONT=&quot]Tryin' to guide ya in how to better use efforts. If ya see this as issues I have? Or, to put it another way? If you are seeing "splinters" in [/FONT]my[FONT=&quot] eyes?[/FONT]

Well, I guess I should appreciate your efforts,
but what have you offered?

You bleched out a bunch of thoughts that you think, like a vomit.
Should one follow another man's thoughts?

I did read it through, you were kind of confirming the law, but not to do it,
then you ended with the love only thing.

I was having trouble identifying what kind of beast it was, it was so strange.

Haven't you heard one needs to believe Jesus, and keep the word of God?
And not partially.

You've made your own fig leave apron
Paul

 

[comingfrom]

Hi Magenta.

But I see your true colors.

Whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

It is impossible for you (or anyone) to keep all of the law.

I believe the scripture there, but not your naysay.

Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope.For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

Thank you, but I shall mark the Lord's words.

[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Who hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath perceived and heard His word?
who hath marked His word, and heard it?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]Jeremiah 23:18

Bless God
Paul