Did Jesus abolish the law? Should we keep the commandments?

[LoveGodForever]

I don't know what you are talking about. Are you just offended by the scripture? It is pretty simple and completely blows the philosophy of the legalists and judaizers out of the water.

Not at all Grandpa, although name calling for the sake of name calling is not a fruit of God's Spirit. Only God's Word is true and we should believe it. As mentioned earlier, I love all the scriptures you have quoted. Although like I said earlier, I am not sure what your point is?

No one here is telling you that we are saved by what we do apart from faith. So your trying to build an argument that is not there. If you have no argument and people believe and agree with the scriptures you have quoted you have nothing to argue about. Seems you are only trying to make an argument that is not there because you cannot address the scriptures.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we break any one of the ten we stand guilty before God of SIN (James 2:8-11) and need to repent and seek his forgiveness (Proverbs 28:13; 1 John 2:1; 1 John 1:9). Those that continue a life in known unrepentant sin will not enter into God's Kingdom (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[Grandpa]

Not at all Grandpa, although name calling for the sake of name calling is not a fruit of God's Spirit. Only God's Word is true and we should believe it. As mentioned earlier, I love all the scriptures you have quoted. Although like I said earlier, I am not sure what your point is?

No one here is telling you that we are saved by what we do apart from faith. So your trying to build an argument that is not there. If you have no argument and people believe and agree with the scriptures you have quoted you have nothing to argue about. Seems you are only trying to make an argument that is not there because you cannot address the scriptures.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we break any one of the ten we stand guilty before God of SIN (James 2:8-11) and need to repent and seek his forgiveness (Proverbs 28:13; 1 John 2:1; 1 John 1:9). Those that continue a life in known unrepentant sin will not enter into God's Kingdom (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

I wasn't talking about salvation.

I was talking about the curse and the blessing.

Maybe you should go back and proof-read?

 

[notuptome]

When did God tell mankind His gift of the Seventh Day had been changed to the first day?

Also, what are people observing when they consider the first day the Sabbath of the Lord God?

I honor God by believing Him on this issue and not man.
I know I am savd by grace........
Weh do some morons tell me I am under the law simply because I prefer to believe God before I believe man?
Alo, why associate kosher with people who believe the Father on His designation of the Seventh Day as a gift to man?

I am not under the law. I know of no one who honors teh Father by heeding Him on the day of rest who is under the law, although we do all do our best to obey God......read at least, Ephesians.

Why do you equate righteousness with the Sabbath?

Gods gift was His Son who shed His blood to atone for sin. The Sabbath can only illustrate mans unworthiness. If you are going to keep the law you must follow the Kosher diet. And don't forget to not trim the corners of your beard.

Is righteousness and holiness outward or in the heart that adores the Lord?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[LoveGodForever]

I wasn't talking about salvation. I was talking about the curse and the blessing.Maybe you should go back and proof-read?

Hi Grandpa of course you were. I read your post # 157 and understood it well and can see what you are highlighting in the post. Let me re-post it for you maybe you forgot what you wrote?

Galatians 3:2-3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

There is a reason this scripture is in the bible. Do you know what it is?

Its correction for going into error. Following a path that leads to the curse and death and not to life and blessing.

Galatians 3:10-14

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

If you don't understand this simplicity how will you understand upholding the law by faith if I explain it to you?

Like I said earlier....

No one here is telling you that we are saved by what we do apart from faith. So your trying to build an argument that is not there. If you have no argument and people believe and agree with the scriptures you have quoted you have nothing to argue about. Seems you are only trying to make an argument that is not there because you cannot address the scriptures. So there is no need to keep accusing people of things they are not doing.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we break any one of the ten we stand guilty before God of SIN (James 2:8-11) and need to repent and seek his forgiveness (Proverbs 28:13; 1 John 2:1; 1 John 1:9). Those that continue a life in known unrepentant sin will not enter into God's Kingdom (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[dcontroversal]

I see the lawyers and Pharisees are still blind.....God's law is still to be kept.....HAHAHAH that is hilarious....unless one KEEPS every jot and tittle 24/7/365 their whole life they DO NOT KEEP THE LAW AND ARE GUILTY OF BREAKING THE WHOLE LAW as it is ALL OR NOTHING.....NO ONE but JESUS has kept the LAW...everyone else CANNOT keep the law...fail 1 time and you are a law breaker and have NOT KEPT IT.......1+1 does not equal 3

 

[Grandpa]

Hi Grandpa of course you were. I read your post # 157 and understood it well and can see what you are highlighting in the post. Let me re-post it for you maybe you forgot what you wrote?

Originally Posted by Grandpa

Galatians 3:2-3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

There is a reason this scripture is in the bible. Do you know what it is?

Its correction for going into error. Following a path that leads to the curse and death and not to life and blessing.

Galatians 3:10-14

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

If you don't understand this simplicity how will you understand upholding the law by faith if I explain it to you?

You are arguing with yourself. I never was talking about salvation. You must be overly sensitive due to the simplicity of these scriptures.

 

[MarcR]

Many Christians say that Jesus has abolished the law and therefore they don't want to keep the commandments. But I can't agree with that. I think God has always been the same and He doesn't change. So why should his commandments change? I have read an interesting article on that topic which explains really well that Jesus never tought us to that we shouldn't keep the commandments anymore. It is all based on Bible verses. So I wonder if anyone can really argue against it?

Did Jesus abolish the law? Do we still have to keep the commandments?

IMO, the article reflects a lack of understanding of the true roles of both the Law and the Holy Spirit.

If believers do many of the things of the Law, it is not because they are written in the Law. It is because the Holy Spirit within us impels us to do them.

 

[MarcR]

Where in the bible does it say that God
un-blessed the Sabbath day Sabbath?

The Bible does NOT say that God un-blessed the Sabbath. It does say clearly that believers are no longer obliged to keep the Sabbath or the other Moaday. There is still a special blessing for those who elect to keep them; but nobody's relationship with God (in any or all of His three persons) depends on keeping them.

 

[followjesus]

God's covenant with us is the same covenant He gave to Abraham.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

When Abrahams children cried out because of affliction of Egypt. (symbolic of sin) He remembered His covenant with Abraham.

Ex. 2:23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage.
24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.

Paul said the Levitical Priesthood sacrificial "Works of the Law" were "ADDED" to this covenant God had with Abraham because of transgressions of it. (See Gal. 3:19)

This "Law of works" (Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.) did not make Abraham righteous because they were not instituted until 430 years after God made His Covenant with Abraham. This "temporary "Law of works" as Paul calls it, was to be a shadow of Christ's sacrifice "until the Seed should come". (Gal. 3:19)

Now that He has Come, we are back to the "Law of Faith" Abraham was blessed for following. That is why Paul said we must have "The Faith of Abraham".

Most will reject this truth as prophesied.

good stuff there paul talks about this in galatians and ephesians, and romans also. very good understanding you have there of the law, and the things paul is saying in some of His epistles regarding the Law. really edifying stuff God bless you. just wanted to ad this to support what you are saying

Galatians 3Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law ( deuteronomy 31)to do them. 11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
15Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it beconfirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.20Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

the covenants are all to isreal. Gods plan brings the gentile into the covenant made with them, by bringing us into the fold through faith, gentile and jew made one people under God apart from the dividing wall of the law that seperated the two.abraham isaac and jacob.....down the Line to david and solomon, daniel....all the same covenant unrolling like a scroll until Jesus appeared who is they seed of promise of that covenant given to abraham for not only israel but all people on earth. always Gods plan was to bring all things under Christ and the gospel declared Him Lord of both Heaven and earth seated king forever on davids throne at Gods right Hand.

 

[LoveGodForever]

The Bible does NOT say that God un-blessed the Sabbath. It does say clearly that believers are no longer obliged to keep the Sabbath or the other Moaday. There is still a special blessing for those who elect to keep them; but nobody's relationship with God (in any or all of His three persons) depends on keeping them.

Gee I must have missed that scripture? Where does it say that God's 4th commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now COMMANDED to keep Sunday as a HOLY day?

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we break any one of the ten we stand guilty before God of SIN (James 2:8-11) and need to repent and seek his forgiveness (Proverbs 28:13; 1 John 2:1; 1 John 1:9). Those that continue a life in known unrepentant sin will not enter into God's Kingdom (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is NO SCRIPTURE that says that God's 4th commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now COMMANDED to keep Sunday as a HOLY day..................

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[MarcR]

Yes, we must keep the commandments. Its ridiculous to say we are now free to murder.

The question then becomes: if anger in my heart is murder, HOW do I keep the commandments?? If the murder occurs even before I shoot someone, how is it possible?

If we are led by the indwelling Holy Spirit, we will not murder.

Do we refrain from murder because the Law tells us 'Don't do that'; or do we refrain from murder because the Holy Spirit within us impels us to love and forgive?

I believe that the reason believers do not murder has nothing to do with Law or commandments.

 

[followjesus]

its the gospel of grace my friend, a very powerful false doctrine that teaches things that arent there and creates all of the vastly different interoretations. if yu wabt to sell a book about Gods real word and the revolutionary new way yu can teach the buyer toi understand it, it has to be different than whats rreally there or people would simply understand the bible isnt a secret Hidden thing it is just what it is, Gods Word, Gods will expressed to mankind. the gog actually teaches the=at good is an evil, obedience is a curse word, obedience translates to the gog crowd as works and ordinances of the mosaic Law and its un necassary.

all because the same teachers theach them that Jesus words are the moisaic law and not meant to be obeyed lol he was just teaching them that no one can obey.....its just a circle it doesnt matter how mant times the bible says different......these 29.95 special grace books win the mind of the readers, the serpents voice for sure, beguiling people left and right because they teaching is at its core " Dont worry about what the bible says, listen to this other thing im telling you" its sad to me, i mean that to see how it turns the mind against truth spoken by the One and Only Jesus Christ. and omits all the life in the Gospel. all based on a verse from some other letter taken from its context to then explain how grace omits all else

.......terrible sight in a bible discussion forum to see so many litterally hate the mention of Gods Law....paul clearly teaches it is holy, just and good, its just not what governs us, still useful in every way for learning but we have the revelation of the Gospel now if only people didnt believe it is the mosaic Law becauswe the last book said it is light would shine

 

[followjesus]

The Lord Jesus abolished your carnal work and carnal understanding of the law (10 commandments)

The Lord Jesus magnified the law so that we would know that our work at it fell short.


Once we realize that our BEST work falls short of obedience we must seek someone more powerful than ourselves to "help" us.

That would be the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.


If we turn from Him back to our own carnal understanding and carnal work at the law there is no hope for any obedience.

Only through faith in Christ do we have hope of Righteousness. Right standing before God.

"If we turn from Him back to our own carnal understanding and carnal work at the law there is no hope for any obedience. "



this is exactly what you gog folks do endlessly. you are saying that Jesus was teaching " carnal commandments" because you are saying that those who believe what Jesus taught his disciples to actually do......are somehow lol judaizers? you guys with this grace ommission just totally ignore the fact the Jesus was teaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. it is nothing like the moisaic law it has no connection to the mosaic Law. it is actually contrary to the mosaic Law. yet t=jospeh prince told yu guys how the gospel is the law that teaches you no one can really obey God......yet he is directly contradicting all the bible says all Jesus himself says of his words and keeping them. and you all choose the guy speaking the exact opposite of the One you are calling the Lord. its insane but the gog teaches you guys to repeat adams terrible mistake.


" Did God really say what Jesus said He said?"....nope thats not for you, listen to my gospel instead"......man never learns the truth that Gods Word is life, and sin is death. one comes from God leading to obedience and everloasting life, one from satan leading to sin and death. the plot has never changed from eden, his ways are the same anything to get the person to not believe what God has said....but.....be subtle and explain how it just doesnt apply" the serpent is clever but Hes also not very original his doctrine doesnt change a bit and is the source of mans death

 

[LoveGodForever]

If we are led by the indwelling Holy Spirit, we will not murder.

Do we refrain from murder because the Law tells us 'Don't do that'; or do we refrain from murder because the Holy Spirit within us impels us to love and forgive?

I believe that the reason believers do not murder has nothing to do with Law or commandments.

Does this not apply to ALL of the TEN? God tells us that it does.......................

James 2
8, If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we break any one of the ten we stand guilty before God of SIN (James 2:8-11) and need to repent and seek his forgiveness (Proverbs 28:13; 1 John 2:1; 1 John 1:9). Those that continue a life in known unrepentant sin will not enter into God's Kingdom (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is NO SCRIPTURE that says that God's 4th commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now COMMANDED to keep Sunday as a HOLY day..................

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[MarcR]

So the non-changing God changed His mind......

I think we can all agree that God's character never changes. I think most of us agree that God often changes His methods; or in mercy withholds judgement. What is arguable; and is in fact at the heart of this thread, is whether the Law is to be viewed as a method by which God deals with people outside of ethnic Israel. One may further question what God intended when He gave Israel the Law, in light of the New Testament.

My answers to those questions are:

God never gave the Law to anyone outside of ethnic Israel.

God gave the Law to Israel to show the futility of trying to please God by our own efforts. The Law has always been intentionally unattainable. Its sole purpose is to demonstrate our need for a Savior.

 

[MarcR]

Sinceritas - 1 post and disappeared from the scene.

All our known 4 or 5 sabbatarians took over the thread...

No meaning in this. There are already other threads about this topic...

If someone wants to start a new thread for any reason it is their privilege.

Nobody is obliged to participate in any thread new or old.

About 2 years ago there were 5 threads open on the same topic. I objected to that only because it was confusing trying to remember which thread I was responding to.

 

[LoveGodForever]

I think we can all agree that God's character never changes. I think most of us agree that God often changes His methods; or in mercy withholds judgement. What is arguable; and is in fact at the heart of this thread, is whether the Law is to be viewed as a method by which God deals with people outside of ethnic Israel. One may further question what God intended when He gave Israel the Law, in light of the New Testament.

My answers to those questions are:

God never gave the Law to anyone outside of ethnic Israel.

God gave the Law to Israel to show the futility of trying to please God by our own efforts. The Law has always been intentionally unattainable. Its sole purpose is to demonstrate our need for a Savior.

Yet the scriptures say:

Ecclesiastes 3
14, I know that, WHATSOEVER GOD DOES, IT SHALL BE FOREVER: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God does it, that men should fear before him.

Did God make the ten commandments then His Word says they are FOREVER.......................

Exodus 31
18, And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, WRITTEN WITH THE FINGER OF GOD.

Did God speak the 10 commandments to His people personally? Well YES he did so they are FOREVER......................

Exodus 20
1, And GOD SPOKE ALL THESE WORDS, SAYING,
2, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.1
3, Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4, Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5, Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6, And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7, Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8, Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9, Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10, But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12, Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13, Thou shalt not kill.
14, Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15, Thou shalt not steal.
16, Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
18, And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
19, And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

If God's Word is the ten commandments as shown above, The scriptures tell us that God's Word is FOREVER.........


Isaiah 40
8, The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but THE WORD OF OUR GOD SHALL STAND FOREVER.

1 Peter 1
25,But THE WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

Psalms 119
89, YOUR WORK O LORD IS ETERNAL; it stands firm in the heavens.
[SUB] [/SUB][h=3][SUB]Matthew 24
35, Heaven and earth will pass away, but MY WORDS WILL NOT PASS AWAY.
[/SUB][/h]
The 10 commandments are God's Word therefore are FOREVER...............................

Does God change?

Numbers 23
19 God is not human, that he should lie, NOT A HUMAN BEING THAT HE SHOULD CHANGE HIS MIND. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?


Hebrews 13
8, Jesus Christ is THE SAME yesterday and today and FOREVER

Malachi 3
6, I THE LORD DO NOT CHANGE. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed

Summary; God does NOT CHANGE his WORD is the Ten Commandments so they are FOREVER. The 10 commandments are the WORK OF GOD so they are FOREVER.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we break any one of the ten we stand guilty before God of SIN (James 2:8-11) and need to repent and seek his forgiveness (Proverbs 28:13; 1 John 2:1; 1 John 1:9). Those that continue a life in known unrepentant sin will not enter into God's Kingdom (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is NO SCRIPTURE that says that God's 4th commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now COMMANDED to keep Sunday as a HOLY day..................

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If we are led by the indwelling Holy Spirit, we will not murder.

Do we refrain from murder because the Law tells us 'Don't do that'; or do we refrain from murder because the Holy Spirit within us impels us to love and forgive?

I believe that the reason believers do not murder has nothing to do with Law or commandments.

amen Bro this is what the NT teaches.. It is love based on Grace mercy and forgiveness given to us, that causes us to become Christlike. Not the law.

 

[LoveGodForever]

amen Bro this is what the NT teaches.. It is love based on Grace mercy and forgiveness given to us, that causes us to become Christlike. Not the law.

You cannot separate LOVE from GOD'S LAW................

Let's have a look................................................

What does Jesus say when he talk about the commandments. Jesus is quoting from Old testament scriptures of Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.................

Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38, This is the first and great commandment.
39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

Let's get clearer......................................................

Matthew 19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17, And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
18, He saith unto him, WHICH? JESUS SAID, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, HONOR YOU MOTHER AND FATHER AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF
20, The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21, Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. <Jesus showed him that he may have fulfilled His duty of love to his neighbor but not to God breaking commandment 1 and 2 loving riches more than God>

Well Jesus makes it very clear that what he is talking about it is the 10 commandments of God's Law.

What about James................................................................

James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
11, FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus and James both agree that they are talking about God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.

What about Paul? He wrote a lot of books in God's Word...........................

Romans 13
8, Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW.
9, For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and IF THERE SHALL BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbour: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.

Paul makes it very clear what he is talking about as well when he is talking about God's Law. It seems like Jesus, James and Paul all agree together what it is they are referring to when talking about God's Law. They are all referring to God's 10 commandments which includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:1-17)

So now that God's Word shows us what it is referring to. No need to guess, what are talking about, God’s Law of Love is God's 10 commandments. It is only through Faith that works by love that anyone can walk in the Spirit which produces the fruit of obedience because love is the fulfilling of God’s Law in those that walk by faith and not by sight.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31). God's Word says if we break one of the ten we stand guilty before God of breaking all the commandments of God (James 2:8-12). God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) and if we break it like any of the other commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN (Exodus 20:1-17).

If we break any of God’s Laws we stand guilty before God in SIN (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20). This includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:26-27; 31)

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You cannot separate LOVE from GOD'S LAW................

Let's have a look................................................

What does Jesus say when he talk about the commandments. Jesus is quoting from Old testament scriptures of Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.................

Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38, This is the first and great commandment.
39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

Let's get clearer......................................................

Matthew 19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17, And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
18, He saith unto him, WHICH? JESUS SAID, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, HONOR YOU MOTHER AND FATHER AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF
20, The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21, Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. <Jesus showed him that he may have fulfilled His duty of love to his neighbor but not to God breaking commandment 1 and 2 loving riches more than God>

Well Jesus makes it very clear that what he is talking about it is the 10 commandments of God's Law.

What about James................................................................

James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
11, FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus and James both agree that they are talking about God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.

What about Paul? He wrote a lot of books in God's Word...........................

Romans 13
8, Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW.
9, For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and IF THERE SHALL BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbour: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.

Paul makes it very clear what he is talking about as well when he is talking about God's Law. It seems like Jesus, James and Paul all agree together what it is they are referring to when talking about God's Law. They are all referring to God's 10 commandments which includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:1-17)

So now that God's Word shows us what it is referring to. No need to guess, what are talking about, God’s Law of Love is God's 10 commandments. It is only through Faith that works by love that anyone can walk in the Spirit which produces the fruit of obedience because love is the fulfilling of God’s Law in those that walk by faith and not by sight.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31). God's Word says if we break one of the ten we stand guilty before God of breaking all the commandments of God (James 2:8-12). God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) and if we break it like any of the other commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN (Exodus 20:1-17).

If we break any of God’s Laws we stand guilty before God in SIN (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20). This includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:26-27; 31)

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

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