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Is the Earth a Globe?
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Wow, that is awesome! How could I have lived my whole life and never heard of a Klein Bottle? It's like a 3D Mobius strip.
The earth is a globe.....if you look at the moon on a good clear night whenever it is waxing, or waning, you will clearly see the shadow of the earth across it, and if you notice, the shadow is NOT a straight line, but however, it is an arc, which suggests the Earth is round.
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If the earth were flat the shadow of the moon wouldn't be caused by the earth. There wouldn't be a flat landmass hurling through space in between a sun and moon. In the flat earth theory the sun and moon are the same size and they hover above the earth parallel to the surface. The earth dwarfs the two in size.
You can't apply the globe model to parts of the flat earth model, you have to consider the entire model. If you want to get into the flat earth theory you have to start with the NASA video and image hoaxes first. You can't believe the earth is flat if you believe men walked on the moon, there is a mars rover, and people orbit the earth in an ISS. Then from there you can be open to more of it.
Legal Disclaimer: I do not debate flat earth or entertain the globe, I provide information for people genuinely interested.
Ha ha! You are absolutely correct that the earth is a globe. But when we look at the moon in various stages we aren't seeing the shadow of the earth projected on it. Rather we are seeing the portion of the moon that the sun shines on. If the sun shines from the side of the moon, relative to us, we only see the portion illuminated by sunlight--that is, the portion of the moon that faces the sun and faces us. There are, however, rare lunar eclipses where the earth casts its shadow on the moon. Lunar eclipses happen a couple times per year, or slightly more.
yes, as you say, if the earth were flat there would be no shadow on the moon. it would not have phases. nor would the planets - and they do, too. every eye sees the moon. everyone with a telescope can see planets. anyone who watches the sky night to night can see them moving.
ergo... the flat earth model is thoroughly debunked.
you call it 'providing information' but you're leaving out the truth, when it contradicts you. that's not really providing information; what you're doing is deceiving people. it's like giving people the Torah and never telling them about Jesus: not exactly 'providing information' as much as it is skewing their perception by leaving out all the most important facts. you don't 'debate' it because there's nothing to debate; the model is proven to be wrong again and again and again, and you don't have an argument. no support.
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if the sun and moon were the same size and circling around overhead, the moon would go through all of its phases every 24 hours.
flat earth is the truth? then give me an accurate model that successfully describes and predicts the appearance and motion of the sun moon and stars in every aspect.
oh such a model is impossible, you don't have one?
well then. i have one. it's a heliocentric solar system model, and it perfectly & accurately describes, explains and predicts every appearance and motion of every moon and planet, without contradiction.
'but they exchanged the truth for a lie'
flat earth is the truth? then give me an accurate model that successfully describes and predicts the appearance and motion of the sun moon and stars in every aspect.
oh such a model is impossible, you don't have one?
well then. i have one. it's a heliocentric solar system model, and it perfectly & accurately describes, explains and predicts every appearance and motion of every moon and planet, without contradiction.
'but they exchanged the truth for a lie'
Friday we'll have our answer, 
https://www.bustle.com/p/a-man-want...source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign
https://www.bustle.com/p/a-man-want...source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign
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You always reference the "model" of which their isn't an official one. This would be a very difficult and complex thing to create and gather the information for, maybe there will never be one. I can prove the moon landing, iss, and mars rover are fake, but you are too dense for that. So you and I can never "debate".
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Friday we'll have our answer,
https://www.bustle.com/p/a-man-want...source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign
Can't wait! Hope the guy isn't a shill
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"Dense" translates into "you won't believe me even though I'm always right". An attitude straight out of the BDF. Insulting people for not agreeing with you doesn't do a thing to make you look credible. In fact it lowers your credibility.
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You won't look into the moon landing either. There is no excuse for a grown man believing a 1960's stage production is "outer space travel".
Applying "common sense" when viewing the footage like, "hey does this look fake, or could it be faked" would be prosperous thoughts. Asking questions like "why isn't there a video of the earth's rotation", "why is NASA heavily tied to freemasonry", would also help.
You people do not want to believe it, it would be a humbling experience and people like me couldn't possibly have figured it out, that would be impossible. So it's not worth investigating. That is dense.
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This guy is actually going to ride inside of it. Last time he attempted something like this he collapsed on the landing and needed 3 days to recover. He may die doing this. I hope he survives and uploads the footage.
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This guy is actually going to ride inside of it. Last time he attempted something like this he collapsed on the landing and needed 3 days to recover. He may die doing this. I hope he survives and uploads the footage.
MadMikeHughes...what's his flight plan?
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Amboy, California is a "ghost town", I guess he has permission from the owner who bought it for 435k to launch himself over it.
He's going to use the town's airstrip to launch himself 1 mile at 550mph he hopes, by heating up 70 gallons of water in his steam powered contraption. This may end up resembling a north korea missile launch.
It can be watched live on the internet "pay-per-view" style, it's $5, I'll definitely be watching and reporting back.
https://apnews.com/9d8e5e8e9245412a...ket-scientist-plans-to-launch-over-ghost-town
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Ha ha! I read this article LINK about Mad Mike and his steam rocket. This passage is from the article:
If Mad Mike is only using 70 gallons of water for steam to propel his rocket, he's certainly not going to get far. I doubt if he even gets off the ground. lol.
But I doubt it even gets that far. I predict that the FAA will shut him down and prevent the "launch", and then Mad Mike will scream "Conspiracy!"
On the morning of the launch, Hughes will heat about 70 gallons of water in a stainless steel tank and then blast off between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m. He plans to go about a mile — reaching an altitude of about 1,800 feet — before pulling two parachutes. They’re discouraging fans — safety issues — but it will be televised on his YouTube channel. He said he’s been in contact with the Federal Aviation Administration and the Bureau of Land Management.
If Mad Mike is only using 70 gallons of water for steam to propel his rocket, he's certainly not going to get far. I doubt if he even gets off the ground. lol.
But I doubt it even gets that far. I predict that the FAA will shut him down and prevent the "launch", and then Mad Mike will scream "Conspiracy!"
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Ha ha! I read this article LINK about Mad Mike and his steam rocket. This passage is from the article:On the morning of the launch, Hughes will heat about 70 gallons of water in a stainless steel tank and then blast off between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m. He plans to go about a mile — reaching an altitude of about 1,800 feet — before pulling two parachutes. They’re discouraging fans — safety issues — but it will be televised on his YouTube channel. He said he’s been in contact with the Federal Aviation Administration and the Bureau of Land Management.
If Mad Mike is only using 70 gallons of water for steam to propel his rocket, he's certainly not going to get far. I doubt if he even gets off the ground. lol.
But I doubt it even gets that far. I predict that the FAA will shut him down and prevent the "launch", and then Mad Mike will scream "Conspiracy!"
Yeah 1,800 feet is nothing, a pointless experiment. Weather balloons and regular airplanes go much higher than that.
The fact that people still believe the Earth is flat, is just plain sad, and what's worse, they use scripture to try and justify that claim. No where in the King James does it mention the Earth is flat or a disk. I do know that the Word teaches us that "Knowledge shall increase" And it has, tremendously!!! Think about this, we've gone from barely getting off the ground and having a carriage that barely goes 10 mph to flying at nearly 5 miles above the Earth and moving in cars and trucks that can exceed 40 mph easily. That's amazing to me. Look at how our knowledge continues to increase. If you say the moon landings and that the photographs our satellites have sent us of the Earth are fake, what is your reasoning for "knowing" they were faked? There are over 70 countries around the world with a space agency, and 6 of them have verifiable satellites in space that send us images in real time of our Earth. You think that NASA, the Russians Space Administration and the Japan
Aerospace Exploration Agency is lying and fooling the masses about our planet? Um.....no.....that would have to be something world wide, and I DOUBT you could ever pull that off without someone squealing on it. The Earth is made the way it is because our Lord made it that way, and he created us in his image. There's a reason God gave us a brain, and we should be using it! You can be a saved man or woman and still be super intelligent and explore. I gotta believe our Lord face palms every time someone uses scripture to back up the flat earth claims. But that's just my thoughts on it.
Aerospace Exploration Agency is lying and fooling the masses about our planet? Um.....no.....that would have to be something world wide, and I DOUBT you could ever pull that off without someone squealing on it. The Earth is made the way it is because our Lord made it that way, and he created us in his image. There's a reason God gave us a brain, and we should be using it! You can be a saved man or woman and still be super intelligent and explore. I gotta believe our Lord face palms every time someone uses scripture to back up the flat earth claims. But that's just my thoughts on it.
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Start small with the moon landing, you are like the atheist denying the existence of God because he doesn't agree with parts of The Bible they misinterpret, and the "evidence" for evolution is undeniable to anyone with a brain and logical reasoning. Is the whole word in on the conspiracy to promote homosexuality? That seems unlikely to them as well.
Some "satellite" photos are taken with high altitude planes. Just look into the moon landing and say "if this was faked with 1960's technology in a studio, would it look like this and is there evidence of the fakery?" Then you will see that mass deception and acceptance is possible, and that the space agencies have these intentions and still support there hoaxes decades later. If and when you get to this point, we can go further.
If you don't want to look into it that's fine. If you don't look into it you will always be "right" with many people telling you that you are. Atheists live like this.