Not By Works

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
There is also talk of giving tax free buyouts to retired people under a certain age and if you take it , you forfeit 100% medical, dental coverage or continue through tricare with monthly premiums. Burial benefit remains intact.

The USA must give up itself so Israel can defend herself alone.
And or fall as a nation in a stike from the north, from thence under the shadow of a cloud with the tempest of a storm that burns her cities with fire, kills all her young men of war in one hour followed by an active invasion where all who are found are thrust through with weapons that causes them to explode down into fragments and pieces....
 

stonesoffire

Poetic Member
Nov 24, 2013
10,665
1,829
113
Glenn, EG And Blue....I have friends that have it or had it...they said the best thing for them was that machine that you get in and free hang upside down by your ankles....they all swear by it....it decompresses your back, allows for everything to reallign etc...just saying...like EG sajd..whatever works
Unless you have had surgery. Then it's a no no.

A heating pad takes sciatic pain away. Simple remedy, I don't know why the doctors don't tell it.
 
Nov 6, 2017
674
12
0
Retarded......especially when long term veterans know the gig and can "school" those who have no clue......many, with their heads in the sand, have no idea that this nation is about done.
I agree. Yet I know that the USA will not stand. It cannot. This is when we will see the faith of many fall away.
 
Nov 6, 2017
674
12
0
Unless you have had surgery. Then it's a no no.

A heating pad takes sciatic pain away. Simple remedy, I don't know why the doctors don't tell it.
Heating a nerve is the worst you can do for it, its better to ice than to heat.

Taking the spice Turmeric is better than any form of aspirin, aleve, advil, tylenol, etc. It is a natural inflammation fighter.

This is why People in India have very rare cases of Autoimmune disease, like Arthritis, etc.
 

stonesoffire

Poetic Member
Nov 24, 2013
10,665
1,829
113
I have a different take on this......I believe they were already saved by believing in the coming Messiah But had not yet been identified with Jesus thru immersion like those who had been immersed by John the Dipper.....the Greek lay out of this verse is different than the English translation and the Lord's church (es) were already in existence when this verse was given....this whole concept of an Acts 2:38 church is foreign to the bible.....and feel free to show up when crap hits the fan.....my cabins and place is for all believers who need a place of refuge whe. the GT hits and a place to hide is available.... :)
Thanks Dcon. Actually we have a plan. A motorhome, and heading to the mountains. :) But, you are very generous, and those who make it to you will be blessed.


But, back to the scriptures...Jesus spoke to Peter, and said this, "when you are converted....

"But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren." Luk 22:32

So I believe that they were kept, had the baptism of water which was repentance and turning to God but conversion came after the Cross and Ressurrection, when Jesus breathed on them and said, receive my Holy Spirit.

Then they were baptized in Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Conversion is when our spirit becomes entwined with the Spirit of Christ. That is the word that Strongs uses, entwined, braided. The baptism is immersing one and is power.

I wont say who is or isn't. There are several gifts that uses the Voice, not just tongues. It's up to the individual to know if he/she is or isn't. But, I know, you know if you are.

And i I know it makes a difference in our life. Church becomes alive. Life in the Spirit exciting.
 

stonesoffire

Poetic Member
Nov 24, 2013
10,665
1,829
113
Heating a nerve is the worst you can do for it, its better to ice than to heat.

Taking the spice Turmeric is better than any form of aspirin, aleve, advil, tylenol, etc. It is a natural inflammation fighter.

This is why People in India have very rare cases of Autoimmune disease, like Arthritis, etc.
No, you are wrong. Sciatic pain goes down the leg. And the heating pad is the remedy. My neurologist told me to do it, and it worked.
 

stonesoffire

Poetic Member
Nov 24, 2013
10,665
1,829
113
And I've just spent my whole day online mostly here on CC, with all you beautiful brothers and sisters. Not wasted time. But, later guys.
 
Nov 6, 2017
674
12
0
No, you are wrong. Sciatic pain goes down the leg. And the heating pad is the remedy. My neurologist told me to do it, and it worked.
I know what Sciatic pain is. I will not debate you, but will say, that most neurologists would also say that fusing a disc or cutting a nerve out is the best route. :)

I herniated the C3 and C4 in my neck and the MRI confirmed the need for massive neck surgery. The neurologist said I should get ready to live with 75% disability, including being in a wheel chair for 18 months during recovery. His plan was to cut the nerves and fuse the discs.

My Christian Chiropractor had his go and we stood in agreement for healing and I was back to walking, working and moving the left side of my body with no side effects[after care MRI proved it] in 4 months and no surgery.

Chirps are awesome if you find the right one.
 

Endoscopy

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2017
4,028
400
83
Your interpretation of one and the scripture interpretation of one are not the same.

How can you not save this?
What I SEE is what the Bible teaches. So please explain why you ignore it. The great commission teaches the trinity of God. Jesus said that He and the Father are one. John 1 teaches that the Light that created the world was in the world but the world knew Him not. And John came to bear witness to the Light. That is 2/3 of the trinity. The great commission adds the Holy Spirit. So explain why you deny what the Bible teaches.
 
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,719
113
Ever hear about the trinity? John 1 proves that Jesus and the Father are one and the same. The great commandment adds the Holy Spirit as well. What kind of Christian are you to reject the Word of God?
This ^^^

Slow your roll with your nonsense accusations and grow up. Nowhere did I reject the Word of God. Act like you're born again and end your false, baseless accusations. Thanks.
 

tourist

Senior Member
Mar 13, 2014
42,595
17,062
113
69
Tennessee
And I've just spent my whole day online mostly here on CC, with all you beautiful brothers and sisters. Not wasted time. But, later guys.
I spent a good portion of my day here too and not a minute of it was wasted. Mainly, I come here on my days off as I rarely post during my work week as I'm too tired with very limited free time. It's a form of rest and relaxation for me enjoying fellowship with my friends and meeting new members.
 

Endoscopy

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2017
4,028
400
83
I know what Sciatic pain is. I will not debate you, but will say, that most neurologists would also say that fusing a disc or cutting a nerve out is the best route. :)

I herniated the C3 and C4 in my neck and the MRI confirmed the need for massive neck surgery. The neurologist said I should get ready to live with 75% disability, including being in a wheel chair for 18 months during recovery. His plan was to cut the nerves and fuse the discs.

My Christian Chiropractor had his go and we stood in agreement for healing and I was back to walking, working and moving the left side of my body with no side effects[after care MRI proved it] in 4 months and no surgery.

Chirps are awesome if you find the right one.
Old time osteopathic doctors did the manipulation that chiropractors do. For some reason they slowly quit. I'm 73 and when I was a teen one did the manipulation on me.
 

Endoscopy

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2017
4,028
400
83
This ^^^

Slow your roll with your nonsense accusations and grow up. Nowhere did I reject the Word of God. Act like you're born again and end your false, baseless accusations. Thanks.
Then explain what you mean by my interpretation of one isn't the Bibles interpretation of one. That is vague and very wide open to interpretation. Explain yourself and point out my error!!
 
Last edited:
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,719
113
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
Unless you have had surgery. Then it's a no no.

A heating pad takes sciatic pain away. Simple remedy, I don't know why the doctors don't tell it.

It depends on what is causing it
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
No, you are wrong. Sciatic pain goes down the leg. And the heating pad is the remedy. My neurologist told me to do it, and it worked.
Again, what works for one person may not work fort another. There are many causes.. Heat does not work for them all
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
What I SEE is what the Bible teaches. So please explain why you ignore it. The great commission teaches the trinity of God. Jesus said that He and the Father are one. John 1 teaches that the Light that created the world was in the world but the world knew Him not. And John came to bear witness to the Light. That is 2/3 of the trinity. The great commission adds the Holy Spirit. So explain why you deny what the Bible teaches.
they are one yes, they are not the same person no.
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
How are the workers and sinless perfectionists doing today.....enoughbtonstay saved and or sinless?.....Nope.....obviously not..........!
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
How are the workers and sinless perfectionists doing today.....enough to stay saved and or sinless?.....Nope.....obviously not..........!
..............
Why does spell check not work on Samsung 7 but does on my PC.....one of the great questions that I ponder ahaha for 30 seconds...