The Catholic Charismatic ATTACK EXPOSED!
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Council of Florence, Cantate Domino (1441): "The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the "eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels."
Pope Boniface I, Epistle 14.1: "It is clear that this Roman Church is to all churches throughout the world as the head is to the members, and that whoever separates himself from it becomes an exile from the Christian religion, since he ceases to belong to its fellowship."
Pope Boniface I, Epistle 14.1: "It is clear that this Roman Church is to all churches throughout the world as the head is to the members, and that whoever separates himself from it becomes an exile from the Christian religion, since he ceases to belong to its fellowship."
Pope Pius IX (1846–1878), Allocution Singulari quadam, December 9, 1854: ... as is Our Apostolic Duty, we wish your episcopal solicitude and vigilance to be aroused, so that you will strive as much as you can to drive form the mind of men that impious and equally fatal opinion, namely, that the way of eternal salvation can be found in any religion whatsoever... "For, it must be held by faith that outside the Apostolic Roman Church, no one can be saved
Pope Pius IX (1846–1878), Encyclical Singulari quidem March 17, 1856): "Teach that just as there is only one God, one Christ, one Holy Spirit, so there is also only one truth which is divinely revealed. There is only one divine faith which is the beginning of salvation for mankind and the basis of all justification, the faith by which the just person lives and without which it is impossible to please God and come to the community of His children. There is only one true, holy, Catholic Church, which is the Apostolic Roman Church.
Pope Pius IX (1846–1878), Encyclical Singulari quidem March 17, 1856): "Teach that just as there is only one God, one Christ, one Holy Spirit, so there is also only one truth which is divinely revealed. There is only one divine faith which is the beginning of salvation for mankind and the basis of all justification, the faith by which the just person lives and without which it is impossible to please God and come to the community of His children. There is only one true, holy, Catholic Church, which is the Apostolic Roman Church.
That's what the popular sentiment here it seems lol, but I see it more like there's way more pagans straight up, even neverminding heretic hunting, just self-acclaimed pagans, there are way more. They are all fractured too though, different types of pagans, muslims, hindus, buddhists, atheists, etc., but they're all wiling out and going crazy this century in my lifetime. It is better that Christendom re-unites. It's almost even a necessity, I mean if you look at it by nation of the world, America is kinda turning into the last bastion and as much as I'd like to, we can't save you all or do everything for you, you guys got revive Christendom somehow over there in the Old World. This is why Trump is in charge. It won't be easy or smoothe to reunite Christendom in order to stand against the final days and the coming of the wicked one of Daniel though, but I support it, I think it is a noble and worthwhile cause.
EDIT: I know a personal friend and we had a similar personal face to face topic and he echoed a very similar sentiment, particularly fear about it being anti-Christ. I ask him and you:
How can reuniting the religion of the followers of Christ be anti-Christ?
EDIT: I know a personal friend and we had a similar personal face to face topic and he echoed a very similar sentiment, particularly fear about it being anti-Christ. I ask him and you:
How can reuniting the religion of the followers of Christ be anti-Christ?
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The Roman Catholic apologist who was just recently in this thread is not interested in the truth, which has been made evident time and time again. He keeps coming here to spread his lies, such as the one I exposed a little while ago. There is no uniting with people who stand against the truth, and that is a Biblical principle.
I assume you mean the user epostle. Personally I see nothing wrong with his words. I am neither Catholic nor Protestant, but I find no fault in him.
I read what he wrote but not trying to get myself in the middle of a brawl. I would ask you, is your disputation with one internet user a fair reason to not reunite Christendom?
I read what he wrote but not trying to get myself in the middle of a brawl. I would ask you, is your disputation with one internet user a fair reason to not reunite Christendom?
If you are fine with people spreading lies, you need to check yourself. If after reading what he said, and my response to it, you think there was nothing wrong with what he promotes, you have serious problems. Christendom has been under attack from the beginning. Get your head on straight. It is not one person who spreads lies about the RCC, for the RCC itself does it. I would kindly suggest you stop trying to encourage people to join with those who stand against the truth.
Well if I must be dragged into it. My view is epostle is a Catholic claiming ya'll spreading lies about Catholicism ironically as you think he be doing. So forgive me, but it almost is a little funny to me.
As you yourself say and I agree, Christendom has constantly been under attack and frankly today it's being taken up to a whole other level in my personal view. So to me that just makes more sense to reunite Christendom. The repairing of East and West orthodoxy is interesting model for going about that. It's not like RCC has to subsume or the other denomination must subsume the other. The Eastern Patriarch and the Pope both still stand separate with their duties and offices properly to execute their duties primarily as priests as they were intended, simply there to do priest and minister stuff, read, sing, pray, take confessions, give whatever sacraments, do marriages, that sorta stuff. Yet united as Christians of the more conservative spectrum. In a way that's where they bring a lot of fruit to Christendom, much ancient knowledge and wisdom and foundation in Christendom. More superficially they're the booky introvert, they're the smart guys, but a lot of Catholics the problem ain't that they Catholic it's that they are atheist lol or just catholic-in-name or by family ties. It's very common maybe moreso for my generation, the kidso f the catholic parents very often turn to atheism or unbelief type problems. That's where here in this specific example and topic with the Charismatics they are more extroverted and warm and fuzzy, more about faith and belief than rigid doctrines and books, but their downside is lol can be a lil uncontrollable, silly, and wild at times too. They lack what the other has and their strengths compliment each other well too.
It's fair to disagree, I could be wrong their difference may perhaps be too vast to overcome and therefore lead to other problems too. I guess it's a 50-50 and if the coin is flipped and in the air and I gotta pick a side, I think go for it, try to reunite Christendom, it's better to try to reunite Christendom and fail and be slaughtered as martyrs than it is to let the pagans kill us picking us off one by one.
As you yourself say and I agree, Christendom has constantly been under attack and frankly today it's being taken up to a whole other level in my personal view. So to me that just makes more sense to reunite Christendom. The repairing of East and West orthodoxy is interesting model for going about that. It's not like RCC has to subsume or the other denomination must subsume the other. The Eastern Patriarch and the Pope both still stand separate with their duties and offices properly to execute their duties primarily as priests as they were intended, simply there to do priest and minister stuff, read, sing, pray, take confessions, give whatever sacraments, do marriages, that sorta stuff. Yet united as Christians of the more conservative spectrum. In a way that's where they bring a lot of fruit to Christendom, much ancient knowledge and wisdom and foundation in Christendom. More superficially they're the booky introvert, they're the smart guys, but a lot of Catholics the problem ain't that they Catholic it's that they are atheist lol or just catholic-in-name or by family ties. It's very common maybe moreso for my generation, the kidso f the catholic parents very often turn to atheism or unbelief type problems. That's where here in this specific example and topic with the Charismatics they are more extroverted and warm and fuzzy, more about faith and belief than rigid doctrines and books, but their downside is lol can be a lil uncontrollable, silly, and wild at times too. They lack what the other has and their strengths compliment each other well too.
It's fair to disagree, I could be wrong their difference may perhaps be too vast to overcome and therefore lead to other problems too. I guess it's a 50-50 and if the coin is flipped and in the air and I gotta pick a side, I think go for it, try to reunite Christendom, it's better to try to reunite Christendom and fail and be slaughtered as martyrs than it is to let the pagans kill us picking us off one by one.
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to say that catholic pagan is love,
to say catholic Christian is hatred
if your son walking toward chasm we have to tell him that he is in danger, he walk to the wrong direction and It is love
to say he is on the right path is hatred, because It Will led him to the death.
Muslim is pagan and It is danger, It Will send you to hell
If pagan cover by christianity, It is a trap, more danger
unite catholic and protestant that accept praying to Mary is a trap. Look like Christian but It is not, Will kill more people, because people think It is OK to get in. Than slow but sure shift their faith
to love is to warn
to hate is ignore, say Nothing so they not hate us. Afraid to be hate in the cost of their salvation.
and this is hatred.
to say catholic Christian is hatred
if your son walking toward chasm we have to tell him that he is in danger, he walk to the wrong direction and It is love
to say he is on the right path is hatred, because It Will led him to the death.
Muslim is pagan and It is danger, It Will send you to hell
If pagan cover by christianity, It is a trap, more danger
unite catholic and protestant that accept praying to Mary is a trap. Look like Christian but It is not, Will kill more people, because people think It is OK to get in. Than slow but sure shift their faith
to love is to warn
to hate is ignore, say Nothing so they not hate us. Afraid to be hate in the cost of their salvation.
and this is hatred.
Well I am not Catholic nor have Catholic family, but I do know Catholics from town and life, and none worship Mary. Like I said for what I have seen and heard of them, for my generation, the problem moreso with Catholics as it pertains to Christendom is lack of faith, doubt, unbelief, issues like that sort. The Catholics are the oldest and one of the most orthodox denominations of Christendom still existing, so they have much good towards Christendom, much knowledge, much wisdom and history of Christendom in the line of the religion of Christianity as a whole from the last books of the Bible to today. It is ironic their problems are in unbelief and doubt and lack of faith for they actually hold a large key and many proofs of the lesser and historical and scientific nature for Christianity if only they would look and believe. It may be true that they are lost and irreparable, but it also may be possible to salvage them too just like the other denominations.
Let me ask you; why do you think it be hatred to try to reunify Christendom? You worry that by trying people will lose salvation? Salvation is of the Lord it is nothing you or I or the Pope or the Patriarch or a Charismatic pastor can take away nor give.
Let me ask you; why do you think it be hatred to try to reunify Christendom? You worry that by trying people will lose salvation? Salvation is of the Lord it is nothing you or I or the Pope or the Patriarch or a Charismatic pastor can take away nor give.
I am not in favor of praying to Mary, but a close friend who is a catholic explained it to me.
She said that it is like the wedding celebration in Cana where the servants told Mary of their need and Mary interceded to Jesus for Him to do something.
To pray means to intercede, to beg, to ask. So in that light it doesn't seem too outrageous to ask Jesus' mom to ask Jesus for help.
Just a thought.