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Job 26:7 does not tell us anything about the earth being a globe.
It just says the earth is suspended over nothing.
The EMPTY space in which the northern skies are spread over mean just that, that it is empty space.
NASA's space is not empty, it is full of planets and what not.
Isaiah 40:22 says the earth is a circle and if you ask me a circle is a circle and a globe is a globe. Regardless of perspective or the angle you look at said circle or said ball it is still a circle or a ball.
You cannot call a ball a circle knowing that it is a ball...
Think of the sun as a spotlight and not this huge ball of fire that NASA says it is.
K
I'm so glad you said this, it needs to be said. Scripture talks about those who give up things of the world in order to follow our Savior. We will all, every one of us have to give an account as to whether we actively pursued truth or not. Because He is looking for those who worship Him in "spirit and truth". We will have to give up things along the way...but the norm is to keep gaining worldly things, climbing that ladder. Just another way we are deceived.
I'm not sure who has the most accurate numbers on the percentage of our labor force (and retired drawing pension) who are g'ment employees verses private employment, so I won't offer any numbers. I've looked into it some and do believe it is staggering, and unstainable. Think of it, where does the money come from to pay them all? The gov don't make their own money, they take money. Look at all the entities who get their funding from the g'ment. I digress, but my point is, you will likely find more folks linked to the g'ment than not. that's got to be a tough spot.
For the record, I don't necessarily think gov employees are liars, NASA employees liars. Most organizations operate on a need to know basis, esp. the g'ment. I mean, who doesn't know that? Most grown -ups should know that. just sayin
I'm not sure who has the most accurate numbers on the percentage of our labor force (and retired drawing pension) who are g'ment employees verses private employment, so I won't offer any numbers. I've looked into it some and do believe it is staggering, and unstainable. Think of it, where does the money come from to pay them all? The gov don't make their own money, they take money. Look at all the entities who get their funding from the g'ment. I digress, but my point is, you will likely find more folks linked to the g'ment than not. that's got to be a tough spot.
For the record, I don't necessarily think gov employees are liars, NASA employees liars. Most organizations operate on a need to know basis, esp. the g'ment. I mean, who doesn't know that? Most grown -ups should know that. just sayin
K
Yes boys and girls, modern day scientists have nothing on those guys in antiquity, who are real scientists.
Question: Who figured out the earth was round?
Answer
ythagoras. He showed that the moon must be round by examining it's terminator lines. Then he reckoned if the moon was round, the earth must be round too! and the rest as they say is history.
https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.html
Question: Who figured out the earth was round?
Answer
ythagoras. He showed that the moon must be round by examining it's terminator lines. Then he reckoned if the moon was round, the earth must be round too! and the rest as they say is history. It has actually been known that the Earth was round since the time of theancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed thatthe Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his ideaon the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape ofthe terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the partof the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that,sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determinedthe true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of theEarth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidencethat the Earth was round.Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere(based on observations he made about which constellations you could see inthe sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actuallymeasured the size of the Earth!
https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.html
Who figured out the Earth is round
It has actually been known that the Eahttps://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.htmlrth was round since the time of theancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed thatthe Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his ideaon the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape ofthe terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the partof the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that,sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determinedthe true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of theEarth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidencethat the Earth was round.Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere(based on observations he made about which constellations you could see inthe sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actuallymeasured the size of the Earth!
It has actually been known that the Eahttps://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.htmlrth was round since the time of theancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed thatthe Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his ideaon the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape ofthe terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the partof the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that,sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determinedthe true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of theEarth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidencethat the Earth was round.Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere(based on observations he made about which constellations you could see inthe sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actuallymeasured the size of the Earth!
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Yes boys and girls, modern day scientists have nothing on those guys in antiquity, who are real scientists.
Question: Who figured out the earth was round?
Answerythagoras. He showed that the moon must be round by examining it's terminator lines. Then he reckoned if the moon was round, the earth must be round too! and the rest as they say is history.
https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.html
Question: Who figured out the earth was round?
Answer
ythagoras. He showed that the moon must be round by examining it's terminator lines. Then he reckoned if the moon was round, the earth must be round too! and the rest as they say is history. It has actually been known that the Earth was round since the time of theancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed thatthe Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his ideaon the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape ofthe terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the partof the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that,sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determinedthe true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of theEarth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidencethat the Earth was round.Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere(based on observations he made about which constellations you could see inthe sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actuallymeasured the size of the Earth!
https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.html
Who figured out the Earth is round
It has actually been known that the Eahttps://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.htmlrth was round since the time of theancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed thatthe Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his ideaon the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape ofthe terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the partof the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that,sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determinedthe true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of theEarth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidencethat the Earth was round.Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere(based on observations he made about which constellations you could see inthe sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actuallymeasured the size of the Earth!
It has actually been known that the Eahttps://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.htmlrth was round since the time of theancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed thatthe Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his ideaon the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape ofthe terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the partof the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that,sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determinedthe true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of theEarth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidencethat the Earth was round.Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere(based on observations he made about which constellations you could see inthe sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actuallymeasured the size of the Earth!
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https://beyondhorizons.eu/ Hey, check this out. Some seriously cool long distance photos. Real photos, not CGI. It's only a matter of time folks.
From strategic places in my city you can see approx. 30 miles. Used to take for granted that math does not compute according to the powers that be.
From strategic places in my city you can see approx. 30 miles. Used to take for granted that math does not compute according to the powers that be.
K
There is a Hebrew word for sphere/ball used in Isaiah 22:18. That description is not used for the earth.
The horizon always rises up, why is that? For the same reason the sun goes down. It is the convergence point, it's how our eyes are designed to work. Objects right and left converge. Ever been driving on a long straight road lined with trees? The trees appear to converge in the distance. We can see only so far without aid. Even with aid, the air is not completely transparant, varies with weather conditions.
Did you look at beyond horizons where I posted a link? How is it possible to see 275 miles? Do the math and tell me how that's possible?
I know how crazy it seems at first glance. I remember it well, the first time I realized there were actually folks who believed the earth was not a spinning ball. How nuts! Did they not have a globe in their classroom? I rest my case. But then, when honestly examining the evidence I could verify myself, not take someone's word for it.....I cannot find a curve. I find hills and valleys, but that next hill is always about the same height/sea level. The whole state of Kansas is flatter than a pancake, Florida is flatter than Kansas!
The horizon always rises up, why is that? For the same reason the sun goes down. It is the convergence point, it's how our eyes are designed to work. Objects right and left converge. Ever been driving on a long straight road lined with trees? The trees appear to converge in the distance. We can see only so far without aid. Even with aid, the air is not completely transparant, varies with weather conditions.
Did you look at beyond horizons where I posted a link? How is it possible to see 275 miles? Do the math and tell me how that's possible?
I know how crazy it seems at first glance. I remember it well, the first time I realized there were actually folks who believed the earth was not a spinning ball. How nuts! Did they not have a globe in their classroom? I rest my case. But then, when honestly examining the evidence I could verify myself, not take someone's word for it.....I cannot find a curve. I find hills and valleys, but that next hill is always about the same height/sea level. The whole state of Kansas is flatter than a pancake, Florida is flatter than Kansas!
That's because you have not ventured high enough to see the subtle curvature of the Earth. If you go above 80,000 feet, you can start to notice the horizon line take a slight dip (ask ANY pilot), then when you're above 180,000 feet, you can clearly see the Earth curve. That link is very deceiving, you cannot see beyond 275 miles, the only way to see that far would be from an elevated height. While those heights are elevated, it's clear to see that none of those are nowhere near more than 50 miles. I wouldn't put much stock in it....you can't deny what I mentioned about the translated Hebrew word Khug from the original scriptures, it translates to circle, and no matter what angle you look at something spherical, it's going to appear as a circle. Take God's position, it says he sits on the circle of the Earth from HIS perspective, which is not here, but upwards.
I would definitely much rather live in Florida than Kansas, too dry there
I would definitely much rather live in Florida than Kansas, too dry there
K
That's because you have not ventured high enough to see the subtle curvature of the Earth. If you go above 80,000 feet, you can start to notice the horizon line take a slight dip (ask ANY pilot), then when you're above 180,000 feet, you can clearly see the Earth curve. That link is very deceiving, you cannot see beyond 275 miles, the only way to see that far would be from an elevated height. While those heights are elevated, it's clear to see that none of those are nowhere near more than 50 miles. I wouldn't put much stock in it....you can't deny what I mentioned about the translated Hebrew word Khug from the original scriptures, it translates to circle, and no matter what angle you look at something spherical, it's going to appear as a circle. Take God's position, it says he sits on the circle of the Earth from HIS perspective, which is not here, but upwards.
I would definitely much rather live in Florida than Kansas, too dry there
I would definitely much rather live in Florida than Kansas, too dry there
8" per mile squared people! Not just 8" per mile.
(Ask any pilot) That's like saying "Ask any Christian" You are not going to get 1 singular answer. Ask God. Pray about it and do your own research. That's about all we can do when looking for truth on any subject. Good day.
Already have prayed about it ma'am, been in extensive prayer about it, and God gives me peace about it. Whether or not you believe in a round earth or a flat Earth, it has ZERO bearing on whether you go to Heaven or go to Hell, only JESUS is the way, and as long as my faith and soul is in His hands, I am covered! But I still see the Earth as round As I'm sure our Lord does
As I'm sure our Lord does
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You are not squaring the inches, you are squaring the miles that are then multiplied by the inches.
You square the distance because that will give you the parabola of the curve.
It is a well known Pythagorean formula..
Are you telling me now that you don't believe in math because it contradicts the globe model?
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[FONT=Roboto, arial, sans-serif]Eratosthenes was the first person in Egypt to figure out the "circumference" of the earth.
He did this with the pre conceived notion that the earth was a globe and he used methods in his experiment that don't actually prove the world to be a globe.
The math just fits because he made it fit.
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That's because you have not ventured high enough to see the subtle curvature of the Earth. If you go above 80,000 feet, you can start to notice the horizon line take a slight dip (ask ANY pilot), then when you're above 180,000 feet, you can clearly see the Earth curve. That link is very deceiving, you cannot see beyond 275 miles, the only way to see that far would be from an elevated height. While those heights are elevated, it's clear to see that none of those are nowhere near more than 50 miles. I wouldn't put much stock in it....you can't deny what I mentioned about the translated Hebrew word Khug from the original scriptures, it translates to circle, and no matter what angle you look at something spherical, it's going to appear as a circle. Take God's position, it says he sits on the circle of the Earth from HIS perspective, which is not here, but upwards.
I would definitely much rather live in Florida than Kansas, too dry there
I would definitely much rather live in Florida than Kansas, too dry there
Under your Logic of the reference of a circle to sphere, if God is omnipotent he is present at all parts at all times.
This means he would clearly know that instead of the word circle, ball, or sphere is a better choice.
Just FYI the sphere shape actually has a lot of pagan ties to it.
Also the god baal his name is eerily close to the English ball, Spanish - Bola, among other translations for ball...
Just some food for thought.
