GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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I go by a simple truth that I learned form Jesus and the New Testament writers. Following their example back all teachings with the Old testament as the foundation of those teachings.
When Paul taught he proved his point by scripture/OT. Just like all the new testament writers did.
The problem here is I see many people saying what they think the NT means but they can't back it with the scriptures of the OT.
When Paul taught he proved his point by scripture/OT. Just like all the new testament writers did.
The problem here is I see many people saying what they think the NT means but they can't back it with the scriptures of the OT.
Sometimes I think what we have named the scriptures is misleading.
We say, Old testament and new testament.
But the reality is there is the scriptures/OT and the witness to those scriptures/NT
The reason we accept the whole as truth is because of the fact that the new does testify and line up with the old as its basis.
That is why we don't accept the other apparent Gospels of Enoch etc. They do not line up with the Scritpures/OT thus we reject them as man made.
We say, Old testament and new testament.
But the reality is there is the scriptures/OT and the witness to those scriptures/NT
The reason we accept the whole as truth is because of the fact that the new does testify and line up with the old as its basis.
That is why we don't accept the other apparent Gospels of Enoch etc. They do not line up with the Scritpures/OT thus we reject them as man made.
Asctually Marcion came up with old testament new testament, and he believed an taught the OT god was mean and angry and the nt god was nice and fuzzy.
This makes no sense since not everything in the "OT" has been fulfilledd, and Yahshua/Jesus (so called nt god) will return with vengeance executing judgment upon the evil.
This makes no sense since not everything in the "OT" has been fulfilledd, and Yahshua/Jesus (so called nt god) will return with vengeance executing judgment upon the evil.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:16-19, "For some, when they had heard, rebelled. But not all rebelled who came out of Egypt through Mosheh. But with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? And to whom did He vow that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:2, "For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed. "[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Here we have and end time prophecy, where the King seems to think the Sabbath is still valid in the end times. Maybe those who disagree need to tell the King He is wrong in His end time prophecy?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Mat 24:20, “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on the Sabbath Day.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Why are there not more mentions of the Sabbath in the New Testament? The New Testament consists of the 4 Messages of the Good News of Messiah, Acts, 22 Letters and the Revelation of Yahshua Messiah. Sections can be isolated to make a false witness that certain Laws/Instructions no longer apply, but are done so in error.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 4:4, “But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].” (Deut 8:3)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…
Luke 16:16-17, “The Torah and the prophets are until Yoḥanan. Since then the reign of YHWH is being announced, and everyone is doing violence upon it. (Zep 3:4) And it is easier for the heaven and the earth to pass away than for one tittle of the Torah to fail.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:1-11, "Therefore, since a promise of entering His rest remains, let us fear so that none of you should come short of it. For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed-- However, we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: So I vowed in My wrath, They will not enter into My rest, although the works were finished from the foundation of the world, For He spoke in a certain place of the Seventh Day, in this way: And YHWH rested the Seventh Day from all His works. And in this place again: If they will enter into My rest. Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, Again, He designates a certain day, saying in David: ''Today,'' after so long a time, as it has been said: Today, if you will hear His voice, do not harden your hearts. If Yahshua (ben Nun) had given them rest he would not have spoken afterward of another day. Therefore, there remains the keeping of the Sabbath (word G#4520) to the people of YHWH, For he who has entered into His rest (word G#2663) has also ceased from his own works, as YHWH did from His. Therefore, let us be zealous to enter into that rest (word G#2663), so that no one may fall after the same example of unbelief."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]#G4520 – sabbatismos, sabbatismos: a sabbath rest, Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: sabbatismos, Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos'), Short Definition: a Sabbath rest, Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest., Word Origin - from a derivation of sabbaton, Definition - a sabbath rest[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]#G2663 – katapausis, katapausis: rest, Original Word: κατάπαυσις, εως, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: katapausis, Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap'-ow-sis), Short Definition: resting, rest, Definition: (in the Old Testament of the rest attained by the settlement in Canaan), resting, rest, dwelling, habitation., Word Origin - from katapauó, Definition - rest[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Contrast words 4520 from Hebrews 4:9 to all the other "NT" mentions of Sabbath:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:9, "Therefore, there remains the keeping of the Sabbath (word G#4520) to the people of YHWH."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]#G4521 – sabbaton, sabbaton: the Sabbath, i.e. the seventh day (of the week), Original Word: σάββατον, ου, τό, Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter, Transliteration: sabbaton, Phonetic Spelling: (sab'-bat-on), Short Definition: the Sabbath, a week, Definition: the Sabbath, a week., Word Origin - of Hebrew origin shabbath, Definition - the Sabbath, i.e. the seventh day (of the week), 68 Occurrences[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]keeping of the Sabbath” is word #4520 - sabbatismos: a sabbath rest, Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: sabbatismos, Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos'), Short Definition: a Sabbath rest, Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Yet many understand Hebrews 4 to be bearing witness against the Sabbath as being the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day, and that the true rest is in Yahshua/Jesus. It is true that the true rest is in Yahshua/Jesus, however, none have yet entered this rest:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matt 11:27-30, "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father. And no one fully knows the Son except the Father, neither does anyone fully know the Father, except the Son and those whom YHWH wills the Son to reveal. Come to Me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light"[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]you who are afflictedrest with us when the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]This is till future;[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, “Clear evidence of the righteous judgment of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], in order for you to be counted worthy of the reign of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], for which you also suffer, since [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shall rightly repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give you who are afflictedrest with us when the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], and on those who do not obey the Good News of our Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Master and from the esteem of His strength, when He comes to be esteemed in His set-apart ones and to be admired among all those who believe in that Day, because our witness to you was believed.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Peter 3:8, “But, beloved ones, let not this one matter be hidden from you: that with [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hosheyah 6:1-3, “Come, and let us turn back to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. For He has torn but He does heal us, He has stricken but He binds us up[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. After two days He shall revive us, on the third day He shall raise us up, so that we live before Him. So let us know, let us pursue to know [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. His going forth is as certain as the morning. And He comes to us like the rain, like the latter rain watering the earth.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Rev 20:4-6, "And I saw thrones – and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them – and the lives of those who had been beheaded because of the witness they bore to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and because of the Word of Ylohim, and who did not worship the beast, nor his image, and did not receive his mark upon their foreheads or upon their hands. And they lived and reigned with Messiah for a thousand years and the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended) – this is the first resurrection. Blessed and set-apart is the one having part in the first resurrection. The second death possesses no authority over these, but they shall be priests of YHWH and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]For Messiah said:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matt 11:27-30, "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father. And no one fully knows the Son except the Father, neither does anyone fully know the Father, except the Son and those whom YHWH wills the Son to reveal. Come to Me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:10, “For he who has entered into His rest has also ceased from his own works*, as YHWH did from His*.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 58:11-14, "YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]strengthen[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*fr[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]om doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it."[/FONT] [/FONT]
Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:16-19, "For some, when they had heard, rebelled. But not all rebelled who came out of Egypt through Mosheh. But with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? And to whom did He vow that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:2, "For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed. "[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Here we have and end time prophecy, where the King seems to think the Sabbath is still valid in the end times. Maybe those who disagree need to tell the King He is wrong in His end time prophecy?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Mat 24:20, “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on the Sabbath Day.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Why are there not more mentions of the Sabbath in the New Testament? The New Testament consists of the 4 Messages of the Good News of Messiah, Acts, 22 Letters and the Revelation of Yahshua Messiah. Sections can be isolated to make a false witness that certain Laws/Instructions no longer apply, but are done so in error.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 4:4, “But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].” (Deut 8:3)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…
Luke 16:16-17, “The Torah and the prophets are until Yoḥanan. Since then the reign of YHWH is being announced, and everyone is doing violence upon it. (Zep 3:4) And it is easier for the heaven and the earth to pass away than for one tittle of the Torah to fail.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:1-11, "Therefore, since a promise of entering His rest remains, let us fear so that none of you should come short of it. For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed-- However, we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: So I vowed in My wrath, They will not enter into My rest, although the works were finished from the foundation of the world, For He spoke in a certain place of the Seventh Day, in this way: And YHWH rested the Seventh Day from all His works. And in this place again: If they will enter into My rest. Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, Again, He designates a certain day, saying in David: ''Today,'' after so long a time, as it has been said: Today, if you will hear His voice, do not harden your hearts. If Yahshua (ben Nun) had given them rest he would not have spoken afterward of another day. Therefore, there remains the keeping of the Sabbath (word G#4520) to the people of YHWH, For he who has entered into His rest (word G#2663) has also ceased from his own works, as YHWH did from His. Therefore, let us be zealous to enter into that rest (word G#2663), so that no one may fall after the same example of unbelief."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]#G4520 – sabbatismos, sabbatismos: a sabbath rest, Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: sabbatismos, Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos'), Short Definition: a Sabbath rest, Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest., Word Origin - from a derivation of sabbaton, Definition - a sabbath rest[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]#G2663 – katapausis, katapausis: rest, Original Word: κατάπαυσις, εως, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: katapausis, Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap'-ow-sis), Short Definition: resting, rest, Definition: (in the Old Testament of the rest attained by the settlement in Canaan), resting, rest, dwelling, habitation., Word Origin - from katapauó, Definition - rest[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Contrast words 4520 from Hebrews 4:9 to all the other "NT" mentions of Sabbath:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:9, "Therefore, there remains the keeping of the Sabbath (word G#4520) to the people of YHWH."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]#G4521 – sabbaton, sabbaton: the Sabbath, i.e. the seventh day (of the week), Original Word: σάββατον, ου, τό, Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter, Transliteration: sabbaton, Phonetic Spelling: (sab'-bat-on), Short Definition: the Sabbath, a week, Definition: the Sabbath, a week., Word Origin - of Hebrew origin shabbath, Definition - the Sabbath, i.e. the seventh day (of the week), 68 Occurrences[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]keeping of the Sabbath” is word #4520 - sabbatismos: a sabbath rest, Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: sabbatismos, Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos'), Short Definition: a Sabbath rest, Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Yet many understand Hebrews 4 to be bearing witness against the Sabbath as being the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day, and that the true rest is in Yahshua/Jesus. It is true that the true rest is in Yahshua/Jesus, however, none have yet entered this rest:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matt 11:27-30, "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father. And no one fully knows the Son except the Father, neither does anyone fully know the Father, except the Son and those whom YHWH wills the Son to reveal. Come to Me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light"[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]you who are afflictedrest with us when the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]This is till future;[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, “Clear evidence of the righteous judgment of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], in order for you to be counted worthy of the reign of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], for which you also suffer, since [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shall rightly repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give you who are afflictedrest with us when the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], and on those who do not obey the Good News of our Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Master and from the esteem of His strength, when He comes to be esteemed in His set-apart ones and to be admired among all those who believe in that Day, because our witness to you was believed.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Peter 3:8, “But, beloved ones, let not this one matter be hidden from you: that with [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hosheyah 6:1-3, “Come, and let us turn back to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. For He has torn but He does heal us, He has stricken but He binds us up[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. After two days He shall revive us, on the third day He shall raise us up, so that we live before Him. So let us know, let us pursue to know [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. His going forth is as certain as the morning. And He comes to us like the rain, like the latter rain watering the earth.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Rev 20:4-6, "And I saw thrones – and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them – and the lives of those who had been beheaded because of the witness they bore to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and because of the Word of Ylohim, and who did not worship the beast, nor his image, and did not receive his mark upon their foreheads or upon their hands. And they lived and reigned with Messiah for a thousand years and the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended) – this is the first resurrection. Blessed and set-apart is the one having part in the first resurrection. The second death possesses no authority over these, but they shall be priests of YHWH and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]For Messiah said:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matt 11:27-30, "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father. And no one fully knows the Son except the Father, neither does anyone fully know the Father, except the Son and those whom YHWH wills the Son to reveal. Come to Me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:10, “For he who has entered into His rest has also ceased from his own works*, as YHWH did from His*.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 58:11-14, "YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]strengthen[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*fr[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]om doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it."[/FONT] [/FONT]
"there is no N.T. verse that commands one to keep the Sabbath"
There in lies your fault. You seem to think the New testament is here to replace the Old. You only acknowledge one of the two witnesses as if they stand alone and separate.
Paul used the OT to prove his doctrine, can you do this? Or do you bring something new that is not exemplified among the NT writers.
There in lies your fault. You seem to think the New testament is here to replace the Old. You only acknowledge one of the two witnesses as if they stand alone and separate.
Paul used the OT to prove his doctrine, can you do this? Or do you bring something new that is not exemplified among the NT writers.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 51:10, “Create in me a clean heart, O Yah; and renew a right spirit within me.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]renew” is word #2318 - chadash: to renew, repair, Original Word: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]חָדַשׁ[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: chadash, Phonetic Spelling: (khaw-dash'), Short Definition: renew[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 8:8-13, "8:8, "For finding fault with them, He says, “See, the days are coming,” says [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “when I shall conclude with the house of Yisra’ĕl and with the house of Yehuḏah a renewed covenant,"8:9, "not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Mitsrayim, because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them,” says [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]."8:10, "“Because this is the covenant that I shall make with the house of Yisra’ĕl after those days, says [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], giving My laws in their mind, and I shall write them on their hearts, and I shall be their Elohim, and they shall be My people."8:11, "“And they shall by no means teach each one his neighbour, and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif],’ because they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them."8:12, "“Because I shall forgive their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawlessnesses I shall no longer remember.”b Jer 31:31-34 Footnote: bSee also Heb 10:16-17."8:13, "By saying, ‘renewed,’ He has made the first old. Now what becomes old and growing aged is near disappearing."[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]renewed” is word #G2537 καινός kainos (kai-nos') adj.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1. brand-new (i.e. newly made or introduced).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2. (also, by implication) distinctly better.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]{while G3501 is properly so with respect to age}[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][of uncertain affinity][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV: new [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Compare: G3501 [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]See also: G2538, G342, G1456, H2319, H2323[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]HELPS Word-studies[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2537 kainós – properly, new in quality (innovation), fresh in development or opportunity – because "not found exactly like this before."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) new[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1a) as respects form[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1a1) recently made, fresh, recent, unused, unworn[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1b) as respects substance[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1b1) of a new kind, unprecedented, novel, uncommon, unheard of[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]For Synonyms see entry G5852[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]G3501 νέος neos (ne'-os) adj.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]νεώτερος neoteros (ne-ō'-te-ros) [comparative][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1. new (of age), youthful.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2. (of persons) young (even under 40 years old, by Hebrew customs of the day).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]3. (comparatively) younger.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]4. (of things) fresh new (as in wine, a lump of dough, a man); (i.e. not brand-new, but yet still fresh, not new-born, but yet still young).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]5. (figuratively) rejuvenated.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][a primary word][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV: new, young [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Compare: G2537 [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]See also: G3503, G365[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]HELPS Word-studies[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]3501 néos – new ("new on the scene"); recently revealed or "what was not there before" (TDNT), including what is recently discovered.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]3501 /néos ("new on the scene") suggests something "new in time" – in contrast to its near-synonym (2537 /kainós, "new in quality").[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) recently born, young, youthful[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2) new[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]For Synonyms see entry G5852[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Also if we look to the Septuagint (a Greek translation of the Hebrew “OT” we find a clue to the original words use and meaning; In the Koine Greek these two Greek words, neos and kainos, have been rendered as “new” in almost all translations. The latter’s meaning differs from the former, and is derived from the verb kainoo, which means “to make new.” The Hebrew equivalent of this verb is cḥadash, which means “to renew.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Example:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"New Moon" it is the same "moon" every 30 days, but it starts it's cycle over every 30 days... Again it is not a literal new moon... People misunderstand/don't understand the foresight of Yah, that He knew all that would happen before it did, it's not like He realized one day, oh I messed up, I have to change this, no but rather the physical priesthood and animal sacrifice were a placeholder, "the weak and unprofitable" a thing for the people to "have faith/works in" before Messiah came, but it was the foresight of Messiah, a way for them to understand a need for Him while letting the people have their go at it. This Psalm explains it so so so perfectly IMO, better than I ever could:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 89:26-37, “He will call out to Me; ‘You are My Father, O YHWH! You are the Rock of My salvation!’ And I will make Him My firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him. And I will establish His Seed forever, and His throne will be as the days of heaven. Should His children forsake My Law, and refuse to walk in My judgments; Should they profane My statutes, and fail to keep My commandments; Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with lashes from the whip. Nevertheless, My lovingkindness I will not utterly withdraw from Him, nor will I ever betray My faithfulness. My covenant I will not break, nor will I change what has gone out of My lips. Once for all, I have vowed by My holiness, I cannot lie, and I say to David; His Seed will endure forever, and his throne will endure before Me like the sun. His throne will be established forever like the moon: the faithful witness in the sky.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]My covenant will stand fast with Him” and “My covenant I will not break, nor will I change what has gone out of My lips”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 4:31, “For [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength is a compassionate Strength, He does not forsake you, nor destroy you, nor forget the covenant of your fathers which He swore to them.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]renew” is word #2318 - chadash: to renew, repair, Original Word: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]חָדַשׁ[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: chadash, Phonetic Spelling: (khaw-dash'), Short Definition: renew[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 8:8-13, "8:8, "For finding fault with them, He says, “See, the days are coming,” says [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “when I shall conclude with the house of Yisra’ĕl and with the house of Yehuḏah a renewed covenant,"8:9, "not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Mitsrayim, because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them,” says [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]."8:10, "“Because this is the covenant that I shall make with the house of Yisra’ĕl after those days, says [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], giving My laws in their mind, and I shall write them on their hearts, and I shall be their Elohim, and they shall be My people."8:11, "“And they shall by no means teach each one his neighbour, and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif],’ because they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them."8:12, "“Because I shall forgive their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawlessnesses I shall no longer remember.”b Jer 31:31-34 Footnote: bSee also Heb 10:16-17."8:13, "By saying, ‘renewed,’ He has made the first old. Now what becomes old and growing aged is near disappearing."[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]renewed” is word #G2537 καινός kainos (kai-nos') adj.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1. brand-new (i.e. newly made or introduced).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2. (also, by implication) distinctly better.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]{while G3501 is properly so with respect to age}[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][of uncertain affinity][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV: new [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Compare: G3501 [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]See also: G2538, G342, G1456, H2319, H2323[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]HELPS Word-studies[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2537 kainós – properly, new in quality (innovation), fresh in development or opportunity – because "not found exactly like this before."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) new[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1a) as respects form[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1a1) recently made, fresh, recent, unused, unworn[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1b) as respects substance[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1b1) of a new kind, unprecedented, novel, uncommon, unheard of[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]For Synonyms see entry G5852[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]G3501 νέος neos (ne'-os) adj.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]νεώτερος neoteros (ne-ō'-te-ros) [comparative][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1. new (of age), youthful.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2. (of persons) young (even under 40 years old, by Hebrew customs of the day).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]3. (comparatively) younger.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]4. (of things) fresh new (as in wine, a lump of dough, a man); (i.e. not brand-new, but yet still fresh, not new-born, but yet still young).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]5. (figuratively) rejuvenated.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][a primary word][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV: new, young [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Compare: G2537 [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]See also: G3503, G365[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]HELPS Word-studies[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]3501 néos – new ("new on the scene"); recently revealed or "what was not there before" (TDNT), including what is recently discovered.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]3501 /néos ("new on the scene") suggests something "new in time" – in contrast to its near-synonym (2537 /kainós, "new in quality").[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) recently born, young, youthful[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2) new[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]For Synonyms see entry G5852[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Also if we look to the Septuagint (a Greek translation of the Hebrew “OT” we find a clue to the original words use and meaning; In the Koine Greek these two Greek words, neos and kainos, have been rendered as “new” in almost all translations. The latter’s meaning differs from the former, and is derived from the verb kainoo, which means “to make new.” The Hebrew equivalent of this verb is cḥadash, which means “to renew.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Example:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"New Moon" it is the same "moon" every 30 days, but it starts it's cycle over every 30 days... Again it is not a literal new moon... People misunderstand/don't understand the foresight of Yah, that He knew all that would happen before it did, it's not like He realized one day, oh I messed up, I have to change this, no but rather the physical priesthood and animal sacrifice were a placeholder, "the weak and unprofitable" a thing for the people to "have faith/works in" before Messiah came, but it was the foresight of Messiah, a way for them to understand a need for Him while letting the people have their go at it. This Psalm explains it so so so perfectly IMO, better than I ever could:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 89:26-37, “He will call out to Me; ‘You are My Father, O YHWH! You are the Rock of My salvation!’ And I will make Him My firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him. And I will establish His Seed forever, and His throne will be as the days of heaven. Should His children forsake My Law, and refuse to walk in My judgments; Should they profane My statutes, and fail to keep My commandments; Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with lashes from the whip. Nevertheless, My lovingkindness I will not utterly withdraw from Him, nor will I ever betray My faithfulness. My covenant I will not break, nor will I change what has gone out of My lips. Once for all, I have vowed by My holiness, I cannot lie, and I say to David; His Seed will endure forever, and his throne will endure before Me like the sun. His throne will be established forever like the moon: the faithful witness in the sky.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]My covenant will stand fast with Him” and “My covenant I will not break, nor will I change what has gone out of My lips”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 4:31, “For [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength is a compassionate Strength, He does not forsake you, nor destroy you, nor forget the covenant of your fathers which He swore to them.”[/FONT]
Dearest gb9, Hebrews is not talking about the Old testament being of no effect. it is talking about the shadows in the covenant being done away with in Christ.
Do you think that creation is no longer in effect? of course not because Hebrews is not talking about the Old Testament being no longer in effect. It is being very specific as to what is no longer in effect:
Heb 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Heb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Very specific about the priests and the heavenly vs the earthly. Still a priest though and still a temple.
but specifically in regards to the law it says in the very chapter you claim supports you:
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Notice this is the new covenant but what law is this speaking of?
Well its actually a quote from the OT just like I said the NT writers did to prove their point.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
So we see that this is taught in the OT scriptures. Hebrews backing his points with Scripture just like I said.
But what law? "my law"
This was promised to Israel and they knew what "my law" meant. See they were being destroyed because they did not keep Gods law. and God is promising them that he will write his law on their hearts.
Do you think that creation is no longer in effect? of course not because Hebrews is not talking about the Old Testament being no longer in effect. It is being very specific as to what is no longer in effect:
Heb 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Heb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Very specific about the priests and the heavenly vs the earthly. Still a priest though and still a temple.
but specifically in regards to the law it says in the very chapter you claim supports you:
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Notice this is the new covenant but what law is this speaking of?
Well its actually a quote from the OT just like I said the NT writers did to prove their point.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
So we see that this is taught in the OT scriptures. Hebrews backing his points with Scripture just like I said.
But what law? "my law"
This was promised to Israel and they knew what "my law" meant. See they were being destroyed because they did not keep Gods law. and God is promising them that he will write his law on their hearts.
An interesting point is that Hebrews which really is focused on how Christ fulfilled aspects of the Sanctuary regarding priesthood and ministry and sacrifices. Yet it never once says the law concerning the ten are changed or done away with. In fact it just reinforces what the Old Testament predicted by the word of God through his prophets. The law would be placed by God in the hearts of men.
Hello gb9,
How do you know to what good is and what is SIN?
If you know the answer to this question you will see how what you have said above is not true at all. Here are the scriptures that answer the questions; Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4.
Now how many commandments are there in God's LAW (ten commandments)? (Exodus 20:1-17)
What is the 4th commandment? (Exodus 20:8-11)
Now with those scriptures in mind go and read James 2:8-12; 1 John 2:3-4; Rev 12:17; 14:12; 22:14; 1 John 3:3-9
Or show me where it says in God's Word that God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place? You will find my friend that there is NO such scriptures.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
How do you know to what good is and what is SIN?
If you know the answer to this question you will see how what you have said above is not true at all. Here are the scriptures that answer the questions; Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4.
Now how many commandments are there in God's LAW (ten commandments)? (Exodus 20:1-17)
What is the 4th commandment? (Exodus 20:8-11)
Now with those scriptures in mind go and read James 2:8-12; 1 John 2:3-4; Rev 12:17; 14:12; 22:14; 1 John 3:3-9
Or show me where it says in God's Word that God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place? You will find my friend that there is NO such scriptures.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
Php 2:13
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
KJV
Believers obey God because His Spirit gives us both the desire and the ability to do so. We don't need to study rules that nobody can properly obey; because we are shown moment to moment what God would have us do and are enabled moment by moment to do it.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
KJV
Believers obey God because His Spirit gives us both the desire and the ability to do so. We don't need to study rules that nobody can properly obey; because we are shown moment to moment what God would have us do and are enabled moment by moment to do it.