So how come they didn't die when they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil as God said they would?
Unless Adam & Eve are still around, God did not lie
So how come they didn't die when they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil as God said they would?
In Genesis 2 when God is instructing Adam that he can't eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil he says if you eat from the tree "you shall surely die" (Verse 17). So how come they didn't die when they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil as God said they would?
What would give us self reliance and pride and at the same time be killing us?Probably self-reliance and pride.
In Genesis 2 when God is instructing Adam that he can't eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil he says if you eat from the tree "you shall surely die" (Verse 17). So how come they didn't die when they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil as God said they would?
Edging God Out.What would give us self reliance and pride and at the same time be killing us?
In Genesis 2 when God is instructing Adam that he can't eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil he says if you eat from the tree "you shall surely die" (Verse 17). So how come they didn't die when they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil as God said they would?
Are you assuming the word, "surely", means 'immediately' or 'instantly'?[
5 Then the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to farm the land and to take care of it. 16 The Lord God commanded the man. He said, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden. 17 But you must never eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because when you eat from it, you will certainly die.”
Tell me how you put those two thoughts together.
Absolutely not, God cannot lie!!
He didn't say they would die immediately. He simply stated that they would die. Up to that point in their existence there was no death.
Unless Adam & Eve are still around, God did not lie.. As pointed out, the verse (Genesis 2:17) is better translated from the Hebrew as "dying thou dost die". It doesn't mean to immediately dropping dead, but "dying" is a process. We all start dying the day we're born.
Amen! And he will restore us with himself when his kingdom is fully established at last on the earth!Why would anyone assume that?
Jesus replied, "Very truly I tell you, no one can see
the kingdom of God unless they are born again."
Why assume they had eaten of the Tree of Life? God barred their way to it so they could not live forever. That pretty clearly indicates that they had not already eaten of it. Otherwise, they would not have died eventually. Do you not see the Tree of Life as a type of Christ? He is the True Vine; by eating of Him, we attain to life ever after... those who do not eat of Christ, remain in the flesh, and will pass into the second death. Unless we are born again of the Spirit of God, we remain in the flesh, which counts for nothing; those who remain in Adam are not granted life ever after. It is fairly basic to the gospel message.
What would give us self reliance and pride and at the same time be killing us?
Amen! And he will restore us with himself when his kingdom is fully established at last on the earth!
Revelation (of Jesus Christ) Chapter 22
" Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations"
Praise him!
It's wonderful how Revelation completes Genesis.
Exactly. We will already be living in the new heavens & earth then. The New Jerusalem is established at that point. We will be partaking of him eternally.It kind of sounds like the Tree of Life constantly produces a fresh offering of fruit that would be partaken of on an ongoing basis. Not a "Quick-Fix" to be eaten ONE-TIME, giving instant and permanent immortality.
Ephesians 2:5 - even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.Has anyone noticed how when we get saved The Lord raises up our SPIRIT immediately? He puts a new spirit in us and we are spiritually alive.
Philippians 2:12 - So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.But it takes time to work out the salvation of our souls (minds & emotions). And we await the resurrection of the dead for our bodies to be made alive and perfect. So the Spirit is affected first, the rest takes time.
Those partaking of the Tree of Life in that scenario are already immortal.It kind of sounds like the Tree of Life constantly produces a fresh offering of fruit that would be partaken of on an ongoing basis. Not a "Quick-Fix" to be eaten ONE-TIME, giving instant and permanent immortality.
Those partaking of the Tree of Life in that scenario are already immortal.
I am not sure how you come to that conclusion when there were no nations to heal in the garden. The scenario you are referencing takes place in the New Jerusalem, when those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life have already put on immortality; the corruptible has put on the incorruptible. But whatever, Willie. No eye has seen nor ear heard not mind conceived...Yet, the tree... if it does depict Jesus, is unchanging. Even its purpose remains the same.