Partakers of the Holy Ghost

[eternally-gratefull]

I am Megiddo. anyone else Megiddo? LOL!

meggido was found out before, If it is him, he will be found out again.

How old are you?

 

[UnderGrace]

Is seems dishonest to come back as someone else and hide your identity if this is in fact true, and all the while confronting someone for using BS?

See Joe Fizz for the list on the meanings of this acronym

meggido was found out before, If it is him, he will be found out again.

How old are you?

 

[7seasrekeyed]

blah bah blah.

If I make a point, and someone disagrees and either asks me a question, or points a differing view, it is ok, But if I do it, I am attacking poor little people who are hopeless. (SMH)

so, when are we supposed to discuss the word?

I have no six shooters. No one at the present time that I know if is attacking others (well one did but I just put him on ignore) I never attacked this young lady, I asked her a question, A question she still has refused to answer, and since, I have responded to her a few times, in a non aggressive manner.

If anyone has six shooters, it is you, because every time I say something you feel like you have to come to peoples rescue and tear me down. That is childish! I would expect more from a sister in Christ.

Thats on you (DUDE!) Practice what you preach!

you know, I can pretty much sum this up pretty quickly

you are shooting in all directions as I said

I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to hyper anything, someone being banned or the nonsense I protect people from you

do they need protecting? Maybe

it seems you need to control everything around you for some reason

since you apparently call yourself a teacher, the practicing is what you might consider

if you think someone is a banned person come back, why don't you just report it instead of making drama and more fighting?

I have no clue what young lady you refer to. I don't follow your arguements with people the way you seem to think I do

I have a few times simply because you just cannot seem to let anything go

but you don't believe you do that

 

[eternally-gratefull]

you know, I can pretty much sum this up pretty quickly

you are shooting in all directions as I said

I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to hyper anything, someone being banned or the nonsense I protect people from you

do they need protecting? Maybe

it seems you need to control everything around you for some reason

since you apparently call yourself a teacher, the practicing is what you might consider

if you think someone is a banned person come back, why don't you just report it instead of making drama and more fighting?

I have no clue what young lady you refer to. I don't follow your arguements with people the way you seem to think I do

I have a few times simply because you just cannot seem to let anything go

but you don't believe you do that

Yet you keep pushing, then blame me..lol

Your funny, But I am done,

Again, How old are you??

Don;t bother answering, I have asked you numerous times to stop responding to me, but you can not stop.

Yet I am the one who can not let anything go?

Well good by, I will let you go.. and pray for you.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Is seems dishonest to come back as someone else and hide your identity if this is in fact true, and all the while confronting someone for using BS?

See Joe Fizz for the list on the meanings of this acronym

I have no dog in this fight, but I think it is far more dishonest to make a fuss about it, create drama, get mad at half the people in the thread and just basically throw a tantrum

we are not even supposed to be talking about banned people...is speculating any better?

this is bullying and not the place of someone who is not even a mod...for that matter, a mod would just take care of things

which honestly, is the proper way to do things...report something...not gang up

like I said, not my fight..and I never get on here and blab about banned people or related...we are not supposed to do that

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I am amazed at how many people can not let things go. but have to keep pushing, and then blame you, The blame shifting that people who call themselves children of God just amazes me, is it lack of maturity?

if I disagree with some one, I have the right, as does EVERYONE to ask why they believe that way, or did I understand them right, call into question their interpretation of a passage for discussion (this is a bible discussion forum) or give a different view in hopes of discussing, and to help others who may be reading so they know all sides. and can hopefully make an informed decision, and maybe (yes it has happened a few times) change my view because they convince me I misunderstood some doctrine.

 

[UnderGrace]

I agree we should not gang up for sure, we should stick to the topic or idea and people should be able to discuss a topic without it being received in a personal way.

I agree there are cliques as well.

I have no dog in this fight, but I think it is far more dishonest to make a fuss about it, create drama, get mad at half the people in the thread and just basically throw a tantrum

we are not even supposed to be talking about banned people...is speculating any better?

this is bullying and not the place of someone who is not even a mod...for that matter, a mod would just take care of things

which honestly, is the proper way to do things...report something...not gang up

like I said, not my fight..and I never get on here and blab about banned people or related...we are not supposed to do that

 

[UnderGrace]

Yeah sometimes I get pulled in, I get so mad at myself when that happens. Arghh!!

It should just be reported to the mods..it is the best way to handle it.

I have no dog in this fight, but I think it is far more dishonest to make a fuss about it, create drama, get mad at half the people in the thread and just basically throw a tantrum

we are not even supposed to be talking about banned people...is speculating any better?

this is bullying and not the place of someone who is not even a mod...for that matter, a mod would just take care of things

which honestly, is the proper way to do things...report something...not gang up

like I said, not my fight..and I never get on here and blab about banned people or related...we are not supposed to do that

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Yeah sometimes I get pulled in, I get so mad at myself when that happens. Arghh!!

It should just be reported to the mods..it is the best way to handle it.

well, that is what those kinds of posts do...they pull people in...I understand we all take sides, but we should not judge hearts and condemn as is so often done here.

obviously, if anyone knows me, I certainly have strong views and take a stand against certain teachings and I will continue to do so. but I do not and have not EVER followed anyone around and harassed someone.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I agree we should not gang up for sure, we should stick to the topic or idea and people should be able to discuss a topic without it being received in a personal way.

I agree there are cliques as well.

It happens with both sides realy.

If you go into a thread where most people believe one way, it will appear they are ganging up on you.

 

[ComeLordJesus]

well, that is what those kinds of posts do...they pull people in...I understand we all take sides, but we should not judge hearts and condemn as is so often done here.

obviously, if anyone knows me, I certainly have strong views and take a stand against certain teachings and I will continue to do so. but I do not and have not EVER followed anyone around and harassed someone.

UnderGrace tries to look so innocent. This is what he said on Not By Works.

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He ignores paul. You saw it i brought it up 4 times yesterday and he maybe commented on them once, if that was a comment at all. I am done with him. He better never say he does not teach works again though. If he does, after the past few days, we have enough Amo to pounce on him. Although I will not see it, Again, I am done. He can take his law twisted gospel and go someplace else. It is in Gods hands now​

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we have enough Amo to pounce on him.​

Is that a person that has heart as some have said they love about them?​

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yeah sometimes I get pulled in, I get so mad at myself when that happens. Arghh!!

It should just be reported to the mods..it is the best way to handle it.

it is easy to get sucked in, sometimes you just have to ignore. And be careful about saying give it to the mods, People have been attacked because they said they was going to take something to the mods..

But it is still the best way,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

UnderGrace tries to look so innocent. This is what he said on Not By Works.

Is that a person that has heart as some have said they love about them?​

So I take it is ok for you to call me out, but not ok for me to call someone out?

smh,

I am laughing right now..

 

[johnthebaptist]

You do not know titus 3: 5?

I know of the stages of coming to faith.
Realisation of God. Conviction of sin. A desire to resolve behaviour, confession of sin,
repentance of sin, faith in the cross for the forgiveness of sins, acceptance of eternal life,
belief in Christ, following and obeying Christs commands etc.

I disagree with what is bolded.

A non child of God can not desire to resolve behavior, they do not even know what good works are. All they can do is let the law bring them to Christ as they realize they are judged and condemned (conviction of sin)and let them know that there is no way of resolving the sin issue (conviction of being dead because of sin) and that the only way to redemption is by sacrifice (conviction of total helplessness)

I apologise for only addressing the first points but this is a medium for small points, not large
theological discussions.

"A non child of God can not desire to resolve behavior, they do not even know what good works are"

Jesus always talked about Jonah and his sign to Nineveh.
They repented, put on sack cloth and ashes, changed their behaviour and judgement did not come.

When Jonah’s warning reached the king of Nineveh....... let people and animals be covered with sackcloth. Let everyone call urgently on God. Let them give up their evil ways and their violence. 9 Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish.
Jonah 3:6-9


So your definitive statement that a non child of God cannot desire to resolve behaviour
is not true, as Nineveh were convicted of sin by Jonahs preaching, repented and changed
their behaviour.

Equally the children of Israel under Moses.

Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.


8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.
Numbers 21:6-9

Israel sinned, were convicted, confessed their sin and sought out God for a resolution to
their punishment. And the resolution was the bronze snake.

Again the process was the same. So unfortunately you have not persuaded me from scripture
that your definitive statements are right and biblical. And unfortunately it is there I have to stop,
because if scripture is not your authority, we will never agree where scripture contradicts your
beliefs. So I wonder why you do not believe scripture and put your faith in God and His revelation
as your basis of faith?

 

[7seasrekeyed]

UnderGrace tries to look so innocent. This is what he said on Not By Works.

Is that a person that has heart as some have said they love about them?​

I think that you do not mean undergrace?

anyway, I don't want any part of what goes on in that thread. the ugliness seems to spill over when people getting on each other's cases there, post elsewhere

in fact, for sure that is what goes on...just look at how many are referencing that thread and dragging it here

you get to know people a little after awhile and sometimes you do maybe mention what they said in another thread, but, it seems consistent with certain folks and that thead for sure

anyway anyhow... everyone is responsible for their own posts and no use blaming someone else for how you or sam snood posts

God has a way of revealing hearts but He hopes to get the attention of the one who needs to deal with their heart so, we should all take notice and do our own accounting IMO

I can assure absolutely everyone, that the old excuse of 'that woman you gave me offered it to me and I did eat' will not have God declare you innocent

the devil made me do it won't fly either

 

[stonesoffire]

There is sufficient internal evidence to confirm that Paul wrote Hebrews, and there is really no reason to suggest that someone else is the writer. It is significant that the King James translators had no doubt that Paul penned Hebrews. Paul was given the responsibility of explaining the meaning of the Gospel in Scripture and this is a part of that.

THE EPISTLE OF PAUL THE APOSTLE TO THE HEBREWS is the title of this book in the KJV.

well, we all know the KJV isn't perfect.

My opinion (note the Word opinion) is that Apollo or Apollos, the other guy, lol Wrote Hebrews.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I apologise for only addressing the first points but this is a medium for small points, not large
theological discussions.

"A non child of God can not desire to resolve behavior, they do not even know what good works are"

Jesus always talked about Jonah and his sign to Nineveh.
They repented, put on sack cloth and ashes, changed their behaviour and judgement did not come.

When Jonah’s warning reached the king of Nineveh....... let people and animals be covered with sackcloth. Let everyone call urgently on God. Let them give up their evil ways and their violence. 9 Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish.
Jonah 3:6-9


So your definitive statement that a non child of God cannot desire to resolve behaviour
is not true, as Nineveh were convicted of sin by Jonahs preaching, repented and changed
their behaviour.

Equally the children of Israel under Moses.

Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.


8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.
Numbers 21:6-9

Israel sinned, were convicted, confessed their sin and sought out God for a resolution to
their punishment. And the resolution was the bronze snake.

Again the process was the same. So unfortunately you have not persuaded me from scripture
that your definitive statements are right and biblical. And unfortunately it is there I have to stop,
because if scripture is not your authority, we will never agree where scripture contradicts your
beliefs. So I wonder why you do not believe scripture and put your faith in God and His revelation
as your basis of faith?

If we must clean ourselves up stop sin, and do all these great works, is not salvation earned by works, and thus not by Grace?

Its ok, I am not out to persuade you, I am trying to discuss what I believe and what I see, if you disagree, thats fine.

I will say though, You have not persuaded me either.

 

[UnderGrace]

I am trying to stay innocent, no easy task on CC. But you can have it your way, no matter to me. I have not read all his posts.

I agree with EG and others that salvation is salvation and we are saved, not quasi saved, and it is not a revolving door one can walk in and out of.

I just chalk it up to how people express themselves. There are a lot of people on here who are very terse in their written expression, that is just the way it is. Some people are very passionate on certain topics as well and things get heated.

UnderGrace tries to look so innocent. This is what he said on Not By Works.

Is that a person that has heart as some have said they love about them?​

 

[Cee]

Stop laying the victim and grow up and own yourself and be honest. You were not giving feedback. You were doing what you do best. You were duplicitous in your motive and all the while your were collecting info to use against me, to help your baby brothers out of a jam.

You did this to me on the not by works thread. I opened up to you on a post and all you did was use every bit of it against me in your next post. You even implied I should be banned, by saying my I might not be here any longer if I keep accusing your brothers of sin. A call to accountability from 2 fellow ministers of the Gospel for using and condoning the use of profanity is not judgement.

Like I said, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

I didn’t imply you should be banned, I’ve seen similar people banned. And if I was trying to gain info about you why did I say to you something to pray about and consider with God.

I am sorry if you felt like I disregarded you opening up to me. I’ll take that as feedback for myself.

Whoever you are accountable to I suggest you show them your posts and see what they think about your conduct. Do you attend a church? Do you have anyone you’re accountable to in the flesh? You said you spend time with God in the mornings that’s incredible. Does He talk to you like the tone you use with people here? If not maybe there’s something you should consider in your alone time with Him.

 

[stonesoffire]

I have to be a psychic to know thast a person who is changed and made a new creature in Christ, who has the HS in them, who will chasten and correct them when they start to go astray will never be as bad as they were before they were CHANGED?

The fact you think a person can be changed and are not new creature in christ, given the HS and directed by him and corrected by him can return to being the total enemy of God who could never love and never do any good should scare you.

are you denying God can change a person and keep them from falling? I am just asking, not attacking. The reason I ask is it seems silly to say we trust God and have faith in his promises, but do not trust God to keep us from falling. Or changing us.

The problems that rise with understanding is about that word "change". Some do not see that the old man is dead because of the old way of thinking. And you are correct EG. The new man in Christ is exactly that. One who previously didn't exist.

We cant change the natural man to the spiritual man. We must be born anew. Then in sanctification, it's worked out as our minds are renewed to truth. We trust in the promises of God who is faithful, and will do it, even to the "day".

Partaking of Holy Spirit is to walk as He walked, is it not?