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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Habakkuk 2:4, "Behold the proud, his soul is not right in him; but the just will live by faith."[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]faith” is word #H530 [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]אֱמוּנָה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]'emuwnah (em-oo-naw') n-f., [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]אֱמֻנָה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]'emunah (em-oo-naw') [shortened], 1. (literally) firmness., 2. (figuratively) security., 3. (morally) fidelity.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][feminine of H529], KJV: faith(-ful, -ly, -ness, (man)), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily. , Root(s): H529
“faith” is word #H530 Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) firmness, fidelity, steadfastness, steadiness
“faith” #H530 Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
Feminine of H0529; literally firmness; figuratively security; moral fidelity:—faith (-ful, -ly, -ness, [man]), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily.[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]faith” is word #H530 [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]אֱמוּנָה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]'emuwnah (em-oo-naw') n-f., [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]אֱמֻנָה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]'emunah (em-oo-naw') [shortened], 1. (literally) firmness., 2. (figuratively) security., 3. (morally) fidelity.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][feminine of H529], KJV: faith(-ful, -ly, -ness, (man)), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily. , Root(s): H529
“faith” is word #H530 Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) firmness, fidelity, steadfastness, steadiness
“faith” #H530 Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
Feminine of H0529; literally firmness; figuratively security; moral fidelity:—faith (-ful, -ly, -ness, [man]), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily.[/FONT]
By His Spirit.
2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
see this shamah?
We have been given all things through Holy Spirit to live godly and partake of His Divine nature.
Then there is the list of what we have, plus more we can claim. By laws? NO!
By His PROMISES!
This is what needs taught. All we need is in Holy Spirit. All the world needs is to see Jesus through Holy Spirit in us. That's to live and move and have our very being in Him. Not by might, power, or any quoting of rules, regulations, or laws.
No sweat!
2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
see this shamah?
We have been given all things through Holy Spirit to live godly and partake of His Divine nature.
Then there is the list of what we have, plus more we can claim. By laws? NO!
By His PROMISES!
This is what needs taught. All we need is in Holy Spirit. All the world needs is to see Jesus through Holy Spirit in us. That's to live and move and have our very being in Him. Not by might, power, or any quoting of rules, regulations, or laws.
No sweat!
I always appreciate your replies, and I truly believe these discussions good for us.
My understanding of the New Covenant is that it has only to do with a change in the Priesthood.
Jer. 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD,(Jesus) I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
No more Levite Scribes to hunt down and listen to when reading the Law and Prophets.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD (Jesus) for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
No more Levitical Priesthood ceremonial, sacrificial, "works of the Law" for remission of sins.
Heb. 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, not Levi. So the "Law" was changed so Jesus could take the High Priest position. He is now our High Priest, His blood forgives sins, He writes His Laws on our hearts. No more Levite Priests.
How is it any more than these two things, how God's Instructions are administered, and how sins are cleansed. What scriptures regarding the New Covenant can you show that makes it more than a different "Priesthood"? What scriptures shows that God's Laws were altered or amended or omitted in any way as a result of the "New Covenant"? What evidence do you have that Jesus will write different instructions on our hearts than God gave to Abraham or that is written in the Law and Prophets?
Definitely food for thought given what is actually written regarding the New Covenant.
My understanding of the New Covenant is that it has only to do with a change in the Priesthood.
Jer. 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD,(Jesus) I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
No more Levite Scribes to hunt down and listen to when reading the Law and Prophets.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD (Jesus) for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
No more Levitical Priesthood ceremonial, sacrificial, "works of the Law" for remission of sins.
Heb. 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, not Levi. So the "Law" was changed so Jesus could take the High Priest position. He is now our High Priest, His blood forgives sins, He writes His Laws on our hearts. No more Levite Priests.
How is it any more than these two things, how God's Instructions are administered, and how sins are cleansed. What scriptures regarding the New Covenant can you show that makes it more than a different "Priesthood"? What scriptures shows that God's Laws were altered or amended or omitted in any way as a result of the "New Covenant"? What evidence do you have that Jesus will write different instructions on our hearts than God gave to Abraham or that is written in the Law and Prophets?
Definitely food for thought given what is actually written regarding the New Covenant.
Not to butt in 
Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
How is it Peter tells us to follow His Instructions to receive the "Holy Spirit" or as Jesus called it "the Spirit of Truth". Didn't Paul say the same thing.
Romans 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
How can we receives God's Spirit if we don't "seek Him" and follow His Instructions?
Butting out Stones, more food for thought.
Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
How is it Peter tells us to follow His Instructions to receive the "Holy Spirit" or as Jesus called it "the Spirit of Truth". Didn't Paul say the same thing.
Romans 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
How can we receives God's Spirit if we don't "seek Him" and follow His Instructions?
Butting out Stones
, more food for thought.
Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
this isnt the only place in scripture that speaks of our inheritance.
We just skim over words at times, and then comes the aha moment. I do it all the time, then want to kick myself for not seeing it before.
and thank you for the kind words.
Also, my husband is a Levite. He will gladly receive your tithes.
I've been falsely accused by Chester on here concerning his usage (misusage) of John 3:36, when I stated he tried to turn it into a verse proving loss of salvation.
He denied he said this, and then told me I misrepresented him.
Well, sorry, as I stated, that is not true, I did not misrepresent him at all.
Here is his quote stating it himself to which I referred:
...not sure why there is so much dishonesty among Christians on here.
He denied he said this, and then told me I misrepresented him.
Well, sorry, as I stated, that is not true, I did not misrepresent him at all.
Here is his quote stating it himself to which I referred:
...not sure why there is so much dishonesty among Christians on here.
Not to butt in
Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
How is it Peter tells us to follow His Instructions to receive the "Holy Spirit" or as Jesus called it "the Spirit of Truth". Didn't Paul say the same thing.
Romans 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
How can we receives God's Spirit if we don't "seek Him" and follow His Instructions?
Butting out Stones, more food for thought.
Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
How is it Peter tells us to follow His Instructions to receive the "Holy Spirit" or as Jesus called it "the Spirit of Truth". Didn't Paul say the same thing.
Romans 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
How can we receives God's Spirit if we don't "seek Him" and follow His Instructions?
Butting out Stones
, more food for thought.
Holy Spirit is given once accompanied with giftings according to His will. And I didn't say at anytime to not do His instructions,
My idea of the works we are called to do is not just good things done to people. Though they can be. Jesus spelled out what works are to be done before He left.
Why butt out?
Amen…The Pharisees believed that God is real, but they did not truly have faith in God.
I’m sure they believed that God was going to send the Messiah. However, when God sent him and he was standing right in front of them, they had no faith in him, and would not accept him.
So they believed in God, but they did not truly have faith in him.
I’m sure they believed that God was going to send the Messiah. However, when God sent him and he was standing right in front of them, they had no faith in him, and would not accept him.
So they believed in God, but they did not truly have faith in him.
He is failing to see that the rejection of Jesus is what brings Gods wrath. For the one law to the world is to repent and turn to Gods offering of salvation. Or God can't do anything for anyone if He is rejected.
This is not what Believers do who are converted. Conversion and the new nature? We cry Abba Father. And our prayers are to Father now in the name of His Son Jesus.
Some just need to hear once. Others dull in hearing.
Holy Spirit was talking to me about dullness of hearing. Had forgotten that until I said it.
This is not what Believers do who are converted. Conversion and the new nature? We cry Abba Father. And our prayers are to Father now in the name of His Son Jesus.
Some just need to hear once. Others dull in hearing.
Holy Spirit was talking to me about dullness of hearing. Had forgotten that until I said it.