Is The Book of Revelation a False Prophecy?
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I think he is referring to the carrion birds. Rev 19:17
But I wouldn't humour him with an answer.
This fellow is a windup merchant. He's not genuinely interested in God. He's just stirring things up.
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Ellsworth1943
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Everyone should stop with the "interpreting" and just read/study and understand.
All the not understanding is a result of "interpreting". ( Making it support what you believe)
Good day Lucy-Pevensie,
Yeah, that's what I thought he was referring to. But we know that it is the birds who eat the flesh of those slain and not the angels.
Hello Ellsworth,
Interpreting scripture taking into consideration symbolism, context, cross-referencing and comparing scripture, is necessary to come to a right conclusion. To be able to discern between what is symbolic vs. literal is paramount. For example, surely you don't believe that a women is actually riding a beast with seven heads and ten horns, do you? Well then, this requires interpreting, based on scripture, who the woman is, what is meant by her "riding the beast." Then you need to find out the literal meaning behind what the symbolism of the seven heads and ten horns represent. All of these and more revealed right in Revelation.
It is the same with the riders of the horses mentioned in the seals. They are symbolic representing the literal results that take place as each one is called out. To be clear, the world is not going to literally see a rider on a white, red, black and pale green horses riding out for everyone to see. But their results that they represent will be seen and felt.
Yes, this format doesn't seem to work very well for actual Bible study does it?
Regarding this thread. The answer is a resounding- NO The Book of Revelation IS NOT a false prophecy.
Case closed.
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pckts
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[FONT="]Josephus, a 1 century person, described him in his book Halosis:
[FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]"…a man of simple appearance, mature age, dark skin, small stature, three cubits high, hunchbacked, with a long face, long nose, and meeting eyebrows, so that they who see him might be affrighted,[/FONT] [FONT="]with scanty hair[/FONT][FONT="] (but) having a line in the middle of the head after the fashion of the Nazireans, and with an undeveloped beard."[/FONT][/FONT]
4 1/2 feet tall, hunchbacked, and probably not "handsome".
Here is a coin that is said to have his image on it:
This 3 cubit stature possibly is referenced in Luke 19:3:
King James Bible
And he sought to see Jesus who he was; and could not for the press, because he was little of stature.
New Living Translation
He tried to get a look at Jesus, but he was too short to see over the crowd.
Of course I do. Just like everyone else here. I just believe I am going to see things differently now than I once did.
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Ellsworth1943
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You call it interpretation but I call it just understanding what is literal and what is symbolic.
To most people I have met, interpretation means explaining what a verse "really" means even when it does not.
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Ellsworth1943
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Different tribes have different races. I read somewhere once that there is a remnant of the tribe of Judah, Mary's tribe, that is living in Ethiopia and that they are definitely black.
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pckts
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Those claiming to be from israel today, are from a nation that was called "Khazaria" and they converted to Judaism around the 9th or 10th century. They have no birth right to Israel, any blood, and the covenant was not to them.
It became the "national religion" of Khazaria. Then at some point the nation fell and the jews were scattered to the neighboring countries, but they did not assimilate and held onto what is essentially their nationalism, through the religion.
Benjamin Freedman gave a speech on this topic in 1961 if you are interested:
[video=youtube;x8OmxI2AYV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8[/video]
Here are some verses about curses upon the children of Israel:
Deuteronomy 32:26
I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:
◄ Deuteronomy 28:46 ►
King James Bible
And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
◄ Deuteronomy 28:16 ►
King James Bible
Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
King James Bible
The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
It says the remembrance of them will cease from among men, which isn't true of the white jews of today they have their culture, israel, and the respect of the deceived as "chosen ones". If the jews were black however, the remembrance of them as jews has been forgotten by everyone, including blacks themselves.
The jews were also to be cursed in all they do, yet we know the white jews of today own the banks, entertainment, politics, and seem to be doing fine. These curses were supposed to last "for ever".
So their is the historical evidence the modern people known as jews (the Ashkenaz) converted to the religion, and these curses do not seem to apply to them, while they apply to the "black jews" that we have ceased to remember.
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pckts
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These guys seem like Jews.
Those are the children of Khazaria that converted, they have 0 relation to the ancient Israelites.
Regarding the examples that I used, one would need to interpret whether something is symbolic or literal. You would have to interpret what the red dragon with the seven heads and ten horns means, as well as the meaning of the woman riding the beast, etc. These all require interpretations based on the meaning given in scripture.
My point was/is that, the book of Revelation should be read in the literal sense until a symbolic interpretation is obvious or required.
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Ellsworth1943
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I agree with your last point except for the word interpretation. Using the word understanding would be better in my opinion.
I just do not like the word "interpretation" when it comes to God's Word because it just opens the door to many false beliefs.