The King James Bible

[fredoheaven]

Notice the ‘v’ in the KJV. It’s a version of the word of God. Just like the ESV, NIV, NASB, (H)CSB, et al.

This is just to give a little info of the 1611 English Bible: (I don't know how this works...

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1. The Title of of the 1611 English Bible is THE HOLY BIBLE.
2. The title is not the Authorized Version.
3. The Title is not also "The King James Version" KJV although the term is said to be commonly used by Bible Believers. the title is applied long after the 1611 English Bible was published.

 

[fredoheaven]

which one is "the heaven of the heavens" ?

You can locate that on the Bible hub

thanks

 

[Joseppi]

"Esaias also crieth concerning Israel:
Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved."

R 9:27 KJV

"For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return."

Is 10:22 KJV

So, let us talk about that "devil in details", as you were so concerned about heaven/heavens.

In the above verses Paul equates the return of the remnant of Israel to their God as salvation.
Close inspection of what Isaiah said in Isaiah 10 shows that Paul is correct.

 

[trofimus]

In the above verses Paul equates the return of the remnant of Israel to their God as salvation.
Close inspection of what Isaiah said in Isaiah 10 shows that Paul is correct.

So, new translations equal heaven to heavens. Close inspection of what Genesis is about shows that it is correct.

 

[posthuman]

You can locate that on the Bible hub

thanks

yeah that's not an answer.
and i copy-pasted verses from biblegateway.

you're welcome

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Do you want to build a tower up to the heavens as well?

i should have added a few smileys for good measure i guess. Just been hearing a lot of kjames only diatribes lately n find the concept "interesting"

No worries, I knew you were only joking, I was too. I will try to remember to use smileys next time.

 

[Joseppi]

You clearly don't study human history or the religions of man. Easter predates Christianity by at least 2000 years.

Do you not understand that Jesus celebrated Passover? Not Easter?

Easter is Christian.

 

[tourist]

Easter is Christian.

Actually, it's roots are pagan but can be a good spiritual experience if the focus is on the death of Jesus dying on the cross for our sins and His resurrection three days later. The Easter Bunny and dying of eggs can be fun also. I never really cared for Lent leading up to Easter Sunday because my parents always made me give up candy. Easter morning was like Halloween for me as I scarfed down the jelly beans, marshmallow Peeps and biting off the ears of the chocolate bunny. I enjoyed the Easter dinner later also and then watching the Ten Commandments on TV. It was like a ritual.

 

[Joseppi]

1. The Title of of the 1611 English Bible is THE HOLY BIBLE.
2. The title is not the Authorized Version.
3. The Title is not also "The King James Version" KJV although the term is said to be commonly used by Bible Believers. the title is applied long after the 1611 English Bible was published.

And a holy bible is of God not man.
It was Satan that sought to add unholy books to the Holy Bible.
And it was Satan that taught gullible people to rename it as though God's Holy Book was the work of King James.

God ordains kings not man.
And so, when the time came to complete the publishing of the Holy Bible, God, who turns the hearts of kings like turning a river, he authorized King James to authorize the work to be done with his monies.

And it wasn't a coincidence that King James IV of Scotland, did as God ordained once he became King James I, the first king over all english speaking people on earth.

Nor is it a coincidence that England having received the Holy Bible gladly were greatly blessed.

The Holy Bible was completed and published in preparation of the end of days.

When England turned against the independence of a common man's faith in the Holy Bible and turned instead to State controlled ecclesiastical control then persecution arose and the Holy Bible came to America.

The Americas were the New World, and mankind, once the Holy Bible was published, began to envision and work towards a globalized world as God has ordained should occur so as to bring the inhabitants of the whole earth to fruition and time of God's great harvest.

The fake bibles are now become widespread and numerous because, they are designed to delude the masses as to the truth and the understanding of all that God has written concerning the short span of time termed "the end of days."

If you wait too long you will be in darkness and danger.

Remember what Jesus said the saints will say to them not wise enough to have kept their lamp trim and filled with oil?
The wise will say to them, go buy the oil you need. And those foolish souls shall not find the door and shall perish in darkness.

It matters what book you read and whom you have believed.
The Holy Bible tells you that filthy lucre is why men corrupt the written word of God. And so it is with the phony bibles today.
All who love them love delusion.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

And a holy bible is of God not man.

The Americas were the New World, and mankind, once the Holy Bible was published, began to envision and work towards a globalized world as God has ordained should occur so as to bring the inhabitants of the whole earth to fruition and time of God's great harvest.

You are setting yourself up for a serious end-time deception my friend.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

It matters what book you read and whom you have believed.
The Holy Bible tells you that filthy lucre is why men corrupt the written word of God. And so it is with the phony bibles today.
All who love them love delusion.

You are in a serious error here, to call Biblical texts "phony"
Moreover you are slandering hundreds of Bible scholars.

 

[hornetguy]

And a holy bible is of God not man.
It was Satan that sought to add unholy books to the Holy Bible.
And it was Satan that taught gullible people to rename it as though God's Holy Book was the work of King James.

God ordains kings not man.
And so, when the time came to complete the publishing of the Holy Bible, God, who turns the hearts of kings like turning a river, he authorized King James to authorize the work to be done with his monies.

And it wasn't a coincidence that King James IV of Scotland, did as God ordained once he became King James I, the first king over all english speaking people on earth.

Nor is it a coincidence that England having received the Holy Bible gladly were greatly blessed.

The Holy Bible was completed and published in preparation of the end of days.

When England turned against the independence of a common man's faith in the Holy Bible and turned instead to State controlled ecclesiastical control then persecution arose and the Holy Bible came to America.

The Americas were the New World, and mankind, once the Holy Bible was published, began to envision and work towards a globalized world as God has ordained should occur so as to bring the inhabitants of the whole earth to fruition and time of God's great harvest.

The fake bibles are now become widespread and numerous because, they are designed to delude the masses as to the truth and the understanding of all that God has written concerning the short span of time termed "the end of days."

If you wait too long you will be in darkness and danger.

Remember what Jesus said the saints will say to them not wise enough to have kept their lamp trim and filled with oil?
The wise will say to them, go buy the oil you need. And those foolish souls shall not find the door and shall perish in darkness.

It matters what book you read and whom you have believed.
The Holy Bible tells you that filthy lucre is why men corrupt the written word of God. And so it is with the phony bibles today.
All who love them love delusion.

That's a pretty nice fable.... did you write that yourself, or is that a cut and paste again?

Your whole premise is simply ludicrous. The idea that punctuation, or an added "s", or a statement worded in a different way somehow negates a whole translation. Others could look at the KJV in the same way.

God did not "write" the KJV. He did allow, and help, translators convert the old language to newer language....fallible, human translators, with limited resources. Just as He has allowed, and helped, translators convert the old language into the current language we speak, fallible, human translators, who are working with many, many more resources.

You need to stop worshipping a translation of God's word, and get back to worshipping God.

 

[Joseppi]

So, new translations equal heaven to heavens. Close inspection of what Genesis is about shows that it is correct.

The fake bibles say that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

The Holy Bible says in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Can you discern a good reason for why God would choose to create one heaven and one earth in the beginning, before he turned on the light, formed the earth and filled the void it had?

 

[Joseppi]

You are in a serious error here, to call Biblical texts "phony"

They are phony and God doesn't honor them whatsoever.

Moreover you are slandering hundreds of Bible scholars.

Bible corrupting scholars ought not be respected but shamed.

 

[Musicus]

The fake bibles say that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

The Holy Bible says in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Can you discern a good reason for why God would choose to create one heaven and one earth in the beginning, before he turned on the light, formed the earth and filled the void it had?

All the bibles say that God created everything. I'm not aware God needed a reason to create anything, at least a reason that's any of my business.

 

[PS]

The fake bibles say that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

The Holy Bible says in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Can you discern a good reason for why God would choose to create one heaven and one earth in the beginning, before he turned on the light, formed the earth and filled the void it had?

Why don't you look up the Hebrew?
shamayim H8064 is a duel word i.e. it has two meanings, the same as many words. In this case heaven and heavens.

There is the sky we can see in which the clouds move, and there is the higher ether where the celestial bodies revolve.

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Lexicon.show/ID/H8064/shamayim.htm

 

[posthuman]

Easter is Christian.

he means first-fruits / passover of course.

he just doesn't know that's what it actually is.

 

[Joseppi]

All the bibles say that God created everything. I'm not aware God needed a reason to create anything, at least a reason that's any of my business.

I agree that God doesn't need his creation.
But, I note that God has a plan.
For the scripture says that Jesus Christ was slain from the foundation of the world.
And since God 1600 years later judged the world with a global flood, it is obvious that the world didn't go according to plan.
And the Garden of Eden was particularily and peculiarly designed as a test. It seems as though it was a scientific experiment.

Have you noted how many things the historical narratives in Genesis teach man and provide mankind with answers about?

Such as...
Marriage, sin, death, the origin of the week, the reason for the sun, moon and stars, sacrifice, worship, light and darkness, entropy, good and evil, eternal life, etc....

God is a teacher.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Why don't you look up the Hebrew?
shamayim H8064 is a duel word i.e. it has two meanings, the same as many words. In this case heaven and heavens.

There is the sky we can see in which the clouds move, and there is the higher ether where the celestial bodies revolve.

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Lexicon.show/ID/H8064/shamayim.htm

[h=1]Bereshis 1 Orthodox Jewish Bible[/h][FONT=&quot]1 In the beginning Elohim created hashomayim (the heavens, Himel) and haaretz (the earth).[/FONT]

 

[tourist]

And a holy bible is of God not man.
It was Satan that sought to add unholy books to the Holy Bible.
And it was Satan that taught gullible people to rename it as though God's Holy Book was the work of King James.

God ordains kings not man.
And so, when the time came to complete the publishing of the Holy Bible, God, who turns the hearts of kings like turning a river, he authorized King James to authorize the work to be done with his monies.

And it wasn't a coincidence that King James IV of Scotland, did as God ordained once he became King James I, the first king over all english speaking people on earth.

Nor is it a coincidence that England having received the Holy Bible gladly were greatly blessed.

The Holy Bible was completed and published in preparation of the end of days.

When England turned against the independence of a common man's faith in the Holy Bible and turned instead to State controlled ecclesiastical control then persecution arose and the Holy Bible came to America.

The Americas were the New World, and mankind, once the Holy Bible was published, began to envision and work towards a globalized world as God has ordained should occur so as to bring the inhabitants of the whole earth to fruition and time of God's great harvest.

The fake bibles are now become widespread and numerous because, they are designed to delude the masses as to the truth and the understanding of all that God has written concerning the short span of time termed "the end of days."

If you wait too long you will be in darkness and danger.

Remember what Jesus said the saints will say to them not wise enough to have kept their lamp trim and filled with oil?
The wise will say to them, go buy the oil you need. And those foolish souls shall not find the door and shall perish in darkness.

It matters what book you read and whom you have believed.
The Holy Bible tells you that filthy lucre is why men corrupt the written word of God. And so it is with the phony bibles today.
All who love them love delusion.

So, in other words, there are no reliable versions of the bible today?