I am sorry my Brother but that would support post trib rapture, because they came out of the great tribulation. Where a verse like Revelation 3:10 “Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.” Seems to support a pre-trib rapture if you are so inclined to lean towards that view of the rapture.
I will be honest, I see it happening like that, but I do read other Scripture that leans toward a post-trib. So I am open to the Lord gathering His people to Himslef and Him not letting His people suffer the wrath or hour of trail that will come on the world to effect His body of believers.
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
That does not support a pre-trib resurrection for it has nothing to do with persecution,but a decision point the whole world will have to make,and it does not say anything about trial,or persecution,but it is a temptation.
This temptation will come upon the whole world and they will have to make a decision what they are going to believe for the people that make the wrong decision will follow the beast kingdom,and then God will end this sin business on earth.
Jesus will deliver all the saints from that temptation that shall come upon the whole world.
1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
The nations will one day come together and say Peace and safety as they try to establish peace on earth,but the saints will know that it is not of God and will lead them to the beast kingdom,which all people who do not love God will follow it because they do not have pleasure in the truth but in unrighteousness.
People that claim to be with Christ but are hypocritical will be tempted by that system,but many will reject it being strong enough in the truth,but many will follow them,and give heed to the age movement interpretation of the Bible,which the Bible says many shall depart from the faith and give heed to it,and it will pave the way to the beast kingdom,and the new age movement will be the only acceptable form of religion based on evolution,and the God of forces,or the power of nature as their higher power,that will be tolerated,and any other beliefs being preached is a hate crime as they try to establish peace on earth and view them as wrong and stirring up trouble.
Joe 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Joe 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
Joe 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
Joe 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
Joe 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
Joe 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
Joe 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Joe 3:16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.
Multitudes in the valley of decision,for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision,and all people will have to make a choice whether to stay with Jesus,turn to Jesus,or follow the new age movement and the course of the world,and all who make the wrong decision God will fight against them.
It appears as if Revelation 3:10 is not supporting a pre-trib resurrection for the saints are on earth when they say Peace and safety that starts the 7 years,and have to make the decision like all other people,but the saints will make the right decision for Jesus will deliver them from that temptation that shall come upon the whole world.
The Bible plainly states that the saints cannot be gathered unto Christ until there is a falling away first which is when the nations come together and do not allow the Gospel,and the truth,to be preached anymore or it will be a hate crime punishable in the international criminal court system,and Christianity will rapidly decline in impacting the world with the truth,which God will allow the man of sin to rule over them and deceive all people that do not love Him,and then the saints can be gathered unto Christ,but God allows the beast to make war against the saints and prevail against them,and they shall be given in to his hands for three and one half years,and he shall destroy the mighty and holy people,and when he shall have accomplished to scatter their power then the saints that remain on earth will be gathered unto Christ.
The wrath of God is not in the 7 years period for the first three and one half years repentance and salvation is still available to the world,and the saints will remain on earth,and the last three and one half years the beast has power to rule,and makes war against the saints.
There is no pre-trib,and then tribulation saints,for there is only 2 resurrections,one of the saints,and one of the dead at the end of the millennial reign of Christ.
The wrath of God is after the 7 years period,and the 6 trumpets are warnings to the world to repent of their sins and turn to God,but at the 6th trumpet they do not repent and turn to God,so God gives them the man of sin to rule over them.
An example is WW1,did not turn to God,set up League of Nations,WW2,did not turn to God,set up United Nations,and that pattern will continue until God gives them the man of sin to rule over them for they will not turn to Him despite the problems on earth,but they keep trying to solve their problems and have peace by their own efforts.
Some people say that God would not allow the saints to go through the tribulation but then God would of not allowed any saint to have persecution in the history of the Church,and we know they were persecuted in the past,and now,and who do they think the tribulation is for,it is not for the world but what the saints will go through,in which God tells the saints do not fight back.
God is love,and will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him,so He will allow them to rebel against Him and make war against the saints testifying they want no part of the truth before He puts them down.
If there is a pre-trib resurrection then they have not rebelled against God for Him to put them down,for God is love and will not give up on the world until they give up on Him,and the beginning of the 7 years period the world has not given up on Him,but when they follow the beast kingdom,and make war against the saints then they have given up on God.
The Bible says the last king shall cast the truth to the ground and stamp upon it,and the beast blasphemes God and His tabernacle,and people,but if the saints are not on earth the beast would not do that,for the saints on the earth is the truth,but if the saints are not on earth the beast does not need to go against the truth for the truth is not there,and the beast is telling the world not to follow that pesky Christianity for it is not true,for there is no personal God and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,to try to deceive as many people as possible for he is possessed by Satan who is trying to take away as many people as he can for God is allowing him to deceive the wicked,and he is mad for he knows his time is short.
