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Anyone who immerses himself in Christ is certainly baptized...... It is always good to imitate Him in any manner possible, but living as He did should mean much more than simply going through the motions of the ritual.
We are also cleansed by His Blood.........think on this also...... The Blood is life. Christ's Blood is His life.
We are also cleansed by His Blood.........think on this also...... The Blood is life. Christ's Blood is His life.
Roger.... man, I love you, brother, but you are stretching credulity with your explanation of Matt 28.... If it was only about "teaching" the nations, and making disciples of them, why would Jesus specifically say "teach them, make disciples of them, and baptize them in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit" ? You cannot just write that off as some kind of meaningless, spurious comment!
And, a second point... nobody that believes in water baptism is "putting their faith" in the person performing the baptism.... any more than a Jewish man was putting his faith in the rabbi that did the bris. WHO does the baptism is immaterial... what is important is the ceremony itself. The person performing it has NO role in salvation... they are simply a tool.
And, a second point... nobody that believes in water baptism is "putting their faith" in the person performing the baptism.... any more than a Jewish man was putting his faith in the rabbi that did the bris. WHO does the baptism is immaterial... what is important is the ceremony itself. The person performing it has NO role in salvation... they are simply a tool.
Mat 28 is a command to teach Christ to the nations. To proclaim His saving grace to all men.
Baptize is not limited to an act of dunking in water. What this verse is teaching is immersion in the doctrine of Christ and the need to be saved. Telling lost souls of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Now I'm going to baptize my tongue in some coffee if I have a cookie I would baptize the cookie first but alas I lack any cookies.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Baptize is not limited to an act of dunking in water. What this verse is teaching is immersion in the doctrine of Christ and the need to be saved. Telling lost souls of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Now I'm going to baptize my tongue in some coffee if I have a cookie I would baptize the cookie first but alas I lack any cookies.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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So in other words, you can not refute what I said, so you just do as you always do and go out and not even respond to the baptisms I wrote of.
Hebrews spoke of the doctrines (plural) of Baptisms” Plural so you are refuted in one verse.
Of course there is one baptism that counts. WHihc one is it? The baptism of MAN in WATER or the BAPTISM of GOD?
Let me guess, You will chose water. Thats your choice. As for me. I will chose the baptism of God.
Ps. As for Mathew, Make disciples. Baptise THEM. These people ar4 already saved before they were baptised. Thats why it is NOT part of the ONE baptism. It is part of the MANY doctrines of baptisms)
John 16:7-9
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
John 6:28-29
28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
Water baptism in the early church was an outward sign of faith in Jesus.
The spiritual aspect has already happened before the physical aspect.
I do feel however that the physical aspect really does set a marker in a believers life.
To be honest I also feel they anyone who places their faith in Jesus should be baptised straight away.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
John 6:28-29
28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
Water baptism in the early church was an outward sign of faith in Jesus.
The spiritual aspect has already happened before the physical aspect.
I do feel however that the physical aspect really does set a marker in a believers life.
To be honest I also feel they anyone who places their faith in Jesus should be baptised straight away.