You don't need much patience to answer a simple question. Yes or No will do fine. More, if you want to, but I'm waiting for that answer, and will keep asking until you answer.
(And after asking for 13 pages, and you supposedly answering, and yet never answered, there is no excuse not to answer it now.)
?? I already answered you Depleted. satan did not NEED God's permission to go after Job. satan already won when Adam and Eve sinned., they GAVE OVER the tending and care and dominion of earth to satan. And the world and it's occupants have been suffering for it ever since. satan is the one who kills...STEALS and destroys. he is called the "destroyer" the "liar" the "thief"
I explained how I see Adam and Eve did not trust God to be loving and kind and giving to them. They believed satan when he said ....
did God reeeallly say.....?.... God surely knows if you eat the fruit of the tree He told you not to eat... you will be like god's knowing good from evil.... God is keeping you guys back and if you were to eat the fruit anyway... you'll find God has held out on you.
So they believed the liar and found out God did nothing of the sort. satan is a liar. satan is the one who kills.... steals and destroys ...Not God. God is the giver of life and all good things.
I'll post again for you Depleted. We Christians need to wrap our new minds around how much LOVE God has for us and that HE didn't even with hold His only Son! But gave Him up for us all. Wow. Yet how many of us born again Christians STILL think God is out to get us? How much more does our Father need to do in order to get us to trust in His love and grace for us? We need to repent (change our minds and our thinking about God and what He is and what He does) Stop thinking of Him in our old manner of living the way we used to see God.
How much do we understand what His grace is all about? Grace will teach us how to live soberly righteously and Godly in this present age but if we don't know what His grace is., we can't learn. We don't deserve His love but that is what grace is about. Undeserved un merited un earned love and favor coming from the One who gives Agape love... His love comes from Himself and is generated from Him.. not based on the ones getting loved because we are lovely and good and deserving of it. He loves us regardless of our unworthiness., regardless that we are not lovely and not good and not deserving. He sees us not according to our flesh. Amen!
Grace is the gift that keeps on giving. Jesus secured the kind of love that 1 Cor. 13 records. And because He first loved us., we can love Him and others. We now have the gift of the Holy Spirit to lead us into all the truth. The truth for today as well as the other truths we will be learning as we walk the path He has set before us in the coming days ahead.
And Jehovah said to Satan, Behold, all that is his is in your hand! Only, do not lay your hand on him. And Satan went out from the face of Jehovah. (Job 1:12, LITV, and also Job 2:6)
The Lord is not giving Satan permission; he’s stating a fact.
Job was already under Satan’s thumb.
Why does the Lord say that? Because of this:
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. (1 John 5:19)
The scriptures declare that God gave control of the earth to man…
The highest heavens belong to the Lord, but the earth he has given to mankind. (Psa 115:16)
…but in the Garden of Eden man handed control to Satan. So when the Lord says “all that is his is in your hand!” he is stating a painful fact that will ultimately cost Jesus his life.
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Lie #1: Satan needs God’s permission to attack us[/h]Satan didn’t ask for permission to go after Job because he didn’t need permission. In the Garden of Eden we opened the door to sin and have been reaping the consequences ever since.
The good news is it doesn’t have to be this way. By the grace of God the devil flees when we resist him (James 4:7). Don’t be like Job and let the thief plunder your house. Be like David who encouraged himself in the Lord and fought back (1 Sam 30:6).