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No not really...especially since your cited examples have no bearing on my belief.......and regardless.....water does not save nor add to salvation nor finish off salvation just as circumcision had no bearing on the salvation of an O.T. saint...both were and are identifiers.....nothing more, nothing less!
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All of my examples are of people who believe as you do, that baptism is not for the remission of sins....hence your guilt by association.....baptism (Acts 2:38) and circumcision (Gen. 17:14) were both identifiers as was the wedding garment in Matt. 22:12.....nothing more, nothing less
Sounds like identifiers are rather important.
Nice try, but no ceeegar....Abraham was declared righteous by FAITH long before he was whacked or offered Isaac...Baptism does not save a flea, much less a man...it is the PUBLIC declaration of faith and states to the world you have died with Christ, been buried with Christ and have been resurrected a new creation in Christ JESUS....the PICTURE does not save the act of FAITH does....try again
Swing and a miss...Abraham was justified by works (James 2:21) his righteous would have been revoked like others, had he not obeyed.....generalities do not save a flea, much less a man...baptism is the PUBLIC declaration of a clear conscience toward God that now saves us (1st Peter 3:21) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ....the thought does not save, the act of FAITH does....next batter.Nice try, but no ceeegar....Abraham was declared righteous by FAITH long before he was whacked or offered Isaac...Baptism does not save a flea, much less a man...it is the PUBLIC declaration of faith and states to the world you have died with Christ, been buried with Christ and have been resurrected a new creation in Christ JESUS....the PICTURE does not save the act of FAITH does....try again
Swing and a miss...Abraham was justified by works (James 2:21) his righteous would have been revoked like others, had he not obeyed.....generalities do not save a flea, much less a man...baptism is the PUBLIC declaration of a clear conscience toward God that now saves us (1st Peter 3:21) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ....the thought does not save, the act of FAITH does....next batter.
Not hardly...James is not about salvation.....but rather men being able to see the invisible faith that save by their deeds or works...
PAUL-->Therefore we conclude that ABRAHAM was justified by FAITH without works and DAVID described the blessedness of the man to whom GOD imputes righteousness without works...
Your pitcher balked....gave me a man on base a move to 2nd and put one on first and I just hit a triple.....
And to add a stand up double.....Peter was clear...NOT the putting away of the filth of the flesh....it is the first act of obedience, a work of righteousness and gives one a good conscience before GOD....
3 to nothing with no outs and a man on second....try again
Not hardly...James is not about salvation.....but rather men being able to see the invisible faith that save by their deeds or works...
PAUL-->Therefore we conclude that ABRAHAM was justified by FAITH without works and DAVID described the blessedness of the man to whom GOD imputes righteousness without works...
Your pitcher balked....gave me a man on base a move to 2nd and put one on first and I just hit a triple.....
And to add a stand up double.....Peter was clear...NOT the putting away of the filth of the flesh....it is the first act of obedience, a work of righteousness and gives one a good conscience before GOD....
3 to nothing with no outs and a man on second....try again
"What good is it brothers if a man said he has faith but has no works? Can faith save him?" James 2:14 James most certainly is about salvation.
1 Peter 3:21 Christian Standard Bible (CSB)
21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you (not as the removal of dirt from the body, but the pledge[a] of a good conscience toward God) through the resurrection of Jesus Christ
No baptism, no pledge.
No pledge, no resurrection.
Sorry to rain on your game but that is how it is worded. Take your issue up with Peter.
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They were not clothed with the righteousness of Christ put on through faith in His shed blood for the remission of sin. "To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.” Acts 10:43. Hmmm, no mention of baptism there...
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"Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this, to look after orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep one self uncorrupted by the world." James 1:27 Hmmm, no mention of faith there.
Sounds like someone is looking for a loophole.