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Can you figure this scripture out for me seeings how you know much more of the bible than I do?
The Number of the ‘Beast’—666—Whose Number Is It?
Here are all the scriptures speaking directly of this number:

“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast,or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six”
(Revelation 13:17-18).

“And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten
the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the
number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God”
(Revelation 15:2).

Note From these scriptures, we have the following definite points:

1. The beast has a number and may be identified, if we have wisdom,
by this number.

2. The number is 666.

3. We are told to count this number—that is, add it up. The same Greek word
is used elsewhere only in Luke 14:28: Count the cost.

4. This number, 666, is the number of the beast. The only Bible interpretation
of this symbol, “beast,” is a kingdom or the king who rules it and, therefore,
really is the kingdom (Daniel 7:17-18, 22-24, 27).

Therefore 666 must be the number of the kingdom, or government, or empire,
as well as that of the king who founds or rules it.


5. The expression “the name of the beast, or the number of his name” makes plain
that the number 666 is the number of the name of the kingdom or empire.

6. The expression “it is the number of a man” shows we must also count this number
in the name of the king, or ruler, over the kingdom identified as the “beast.”

The Beast Is Not the Woman [a church]


In the 17th chapter of Revelation we find a beast, and a woman—a great, wealthy
but fallen woman—who was riding the beast. The Bible describes the symbol “woman”
to mean a church (see 2?Corinthians 11:2; Revelation 19:7; Ephesians 5:22-27).


The beast of Revelation 13 is not the woman who rode the beast
—the beast is the government, and the woman is a church.

The beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire!


This beast had a deadly wound (Revelation 13:3). That means the beast ceased altogether
to exist or function as it had since 31 b.c. Yet its deadly wound was later healed, after which
(verse 5) it continued to exist another 1,260 years!


The Founder of Rome

The founder and first king of Rome was Romulus.
The Roman Empire was named after him.
His name, the name of a man, also is the name of the kingdom.
And every citizen in the kingdom bears the same name—a Roman.

When John wrote this Revelation, telling us to count the number of the beast,
he wrote in the Greek language. Consequently, we should look for this name,
and the number 666, in this language recognized in the Bible, not in the Latin.


We are all familiar with the Roman numerals, where letters are used for numbers.
All understand that I is 1, v is 5, x is 10, etc. But many do not know that the Greek
language, in which the book of Revelation was written, also uses letters for numbers.

In the Greek this name was understood in the second century a.d. to have originally
been spelled Lateinos. It signifies “Latin man” or “the name of Latium,”
from which region the Romans derived their origin and their language.

This word, too, signifies “Roman.” In the Greek, l is 30, a is 1, t is 300, e is 5,
I is 10, n is 50, o is 70, s is 200. Count these figures. They count to exactly 666!


It is indeed no coincidence that the name of the kingdom, its founder and first king,
and of each man in the kingdom, counts to exactly 666!


Certainly the beast stands identified!
 

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The forehead is where our conscious thoughts reside.
The right hand is where our works are manifested.
The information above is moot, since we already have people being implanted under the skin of the hand. The technology is already taking place in the literal sense and will continue to evolve in preparation for the revealing of that antichrist. Check out the following regarding the technology for the mark:

Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Company to install microchips in employees
 

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Greetings Tanakh,

Very true, but regardless, we have scripture that is very specific that this mark will go in/on the right hand or forehead. The fact that we already have chips being implanted under the skin of the hand attests to the truth and accuracy of God's word. It is amazing to me at the number of people who reject this, even though this is exactly what scripture states and is exactly how it is happening.

Yeah, those were called phylacteries, which were little prayer boxes on their wrists. In order to control the entire world economy so that in order to perform any kind of electronic crediting or debiting to ones bank account, eventually card swiping and cell phone bank apps will be replaced by that coming mark, which is already in its infancy and which will continue to evolve leading up to the revealing of the antichrist.
Its not that amazing that people reject this idea. Every time something appears in the news someone has to link it with prophecy and write another sensational book about it. Its been happening for the past 200 years. People like Hal Lyndsay are mainly responsible for it in the past forty years or so but its been going on long before him. In the 1860s someone claimed that the 20000000 troops were the exact figure of the current adult male world population and had calculations to ''prove'' it. They also claimed that the description of the riders were similar to those involved in the Civil War. As long as there are people who study with the Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other the trend will continue.
 

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Its not that amazing that people reject this idea. Every time something appears in the news someone has to link it with prophecy and write another sensational book about it. Its been happening for the past 200 years. People like Hal Lyndsay are mainly responsible for it in the past forty years or so but its been going on long before him. In the 1860s someone claimed that the 20000000 troops were the exact figure of the current adult male world population and had calculations to ''prove'' it. They also claimed that the description of the riders were similar to those involved in the Civil War. As long as there are people who study with the Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other the trend will continue.
That's because this technology is on-going and will continue to evolve until it reaches its end in conjunction with the revealing of that antichrist. It wasn't something that was just going to pop up over night. I've been watching these stages for many years, beginning with the first ATM's, the UPC and POS systems, and now chip implants under the skin. Now, this RFID chip in plant will evolve into something that is more applicable and will eventually become the mark.

People are currently being conditioned to use electronic crediting and debiting via the use of card swiping and cell phone bank apps. When that device is introduced on the body which will replace those options, they will more than eager to get their own implant. This attitude that you have described is exactly what Satan wants. They will say, "oh, it's just technology and has nothing to do with the Bible" all the while they will be using it in the exact manner revealed in scripture, to buy and sell.


People have claimed and will continue to claim events without any valid reason, which is the same reason why people have identified the antichrist from the time of Rome to this present day, yet without proper fulfillment of written regarding him. They do the same thing with the mark prophecy. These are the same people who will be standing in line to get their mark.

And Hal Lindsey has nothing to do with it, because this is scripture.
 

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The coming Cashless Society matches that of The Mark of The Beast.

Throughout history, trade and commerce has always involved the use of some sort of "medium of exchange". Whether it be gold, silver, paper money, and so on.

The word "mark" can be associated with many other words. Now in financial terms, this can be associated as a means of identification or a person's signature on a cheque for example. For a good number of years now, when people trade 2nd hand goods, ID is required. When businesses sell products, they sell for money nothing else. Electronic transactions all will have some kind of reference with a description of some kind, whether it be a authorization number, or some other type of description.

Now personally, in my opinion, current rfid and nfc chip implant technology, and with the evidence of people using this technology to pay for goods is the first sign of hardcore evidence that begins to relate to the description in Rev 13:16-17. In Rev 16.2, there are side effects, in which there is already evidence of side effects of rfid implants, but in animals. How many animals at this stage is uncertain.

At minimum I would say what we are seeing at the moment is some sort of prototype model to test the waters.

Now speaking from a technological and financial point of view, by eliminating all forms of physical cash, and the only means of trade and commerce is by use of a implantable device, this will be the first step to population control/enslavement.

Now we are seeing evidence of 5G towers being made, and there seems to be a lot of concerns with the radiation associated with it.

Now look at the cashless society concept. With the advancements of technology, and with the evidence of what we are seeing today, can a implantable electronic device, designed for the purpose of electronic currency transactions with wi-fi capabilities make obsolete existing all other forms of monetary payments systems? Yes it can. Can this technology also eliminate the need for a person to carry so many identification documents? Yes it can.

My personal opinion, if the 5G network that is rolling out is perfected, then that would be the communications system needed for the increasing use of wi-fi related interactions between one device and another. I myself am aware that not everyplace in the world has access to the internet, but by use of 5G communications towers, it would be easier for people to access the internet via their mobile phone company.
 
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I don't understand how hard it is to understand the mark of the beast...


Prove-all ; 5. The expression “the name of the beast, or the number of his name” makes plain
that the number 666 is the number of the name of the kingdom or empire.

Revelation 13:
18 Here is the wisdom! He who is having the understanding, let him count the number of the beast, for the number of a man it is, and its number [is] 666.

It says a man here not kingdom, not an empire. It was a Ruler, who was in charge at the time, and if Romans got a hold of one of these letters, something would have went wrong for John if He didn't write it in such a way like Revelation has been wrote out.


There is many things people don't understand about Revelation.

There are four different ways of looking at the book of Revelation ;; Futurist/Full or Half Preterist/Historianist/ and one more view I can't think of, (Ideologist? view)



I have come to accept the full preterist view myself, and I believe that all of the Revelation has passed, and I believe that the gathering of the church has already tooken place, the last days or end of the Age days have done past us all by, and we are living under the New Covenant, and God is in control over everything now, and takes care of everyone. Satan has been defeated and death has been placed underneath Jesus Christ feet, and we have freedom to love God, and to Love others because of everything the Lord Jesus Christ has done.


I think I explained my side of the Mark of the Beast very well, compared to what some have said here, regardless of how you may think it may be ludacris of me to assume such foolish, and ignorant things to share with others here when I get the chance to.


:) Come on guys, enough with the little micro chip

What you need to be worried about is the Anti-christ, who says worship me, and if you don't, He will just kill you...

Believe me, if you have some emperor over you, saying worship me, do as I say or die... Which is gonna be worse??

A micro-chip,
or
starving, beaten, and killed on site, doesn't matter. You confess the Lord Jesus Christ *Kick in the head*, beaten, killed murdered...

Nero was very good at this, and He did it to many people, Of course Nero killed himself after his lifetime here on earth, He was known as a beast, and He was known as the Anti-christ, He had statues of himself, that people worshiped and adorned for the sake of his happiness, or else be slain.

Then there was 4 more after Him, until the fall of Jersulam in Ad 70.

I like this view because it has a lot of help in understanding more about the things that were going on around the time of the apostles and even with other books, besides the Revelation.

Very thankful to have had opened eyes now because of God and how he let me able to learn as much as I have gotten to learn about the bible.
 

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I have come to accept the full preterist view myself, and I believe that all of the Revelation has passed, and I believe that the gathering of the church has already taken place


Now that is amazing! The church is still in the process of being built and you believe the gathering of the church has already taken place?

Allow me to explain this to you. Jesus said, "I will build my church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it." Currently, the church is still in the process of being built. When the time is right, the Lord will descend and those in Christ who have died from the beginning of the church until the time of the resurrection, their bodies will rise being changed into those immortal and glorified bodies (1 Cor.15:42-43). Immediately after that, those who are still alive in Christ will be changed into their immortal and glorified bodies and will be caught up with those who will have just resurrected with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

Therefore, when the resurrection takes place, both those in Christ who will have been dead and those who are still living, will all be gathered in the air, i.e. the entire church form beginning to end will be in one place at one time, where according to John 14:1-3 the Lord will then take the entire group back to the Father's house to those places that he will have prepared for us.

The problem with your preteristic view, is that the majority of the church has been left out of the Lord's promise. For if the gathering has already taken place at or around the destruction of the temple, then that would mean that all of the church from beyond 70AD until now will have been left out of the resurrection. But as I said, the resurrection and the changing of those alive in Christ, is meant to gather the entire church, which is why it could not have yet taken place and that because the church is still here. Not only that, but the wrath of God via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are still to come, which would leave the church to go through that since according to you the resurrection has already taken place. You would have God punish the righteous with the wicked. You shouldn't be teaching on these things, because you know nothing about them.

the last days or end of the Age days have done past us all by, and we are living under the New Covenant, and God is in control over everything now, and takes care of everyone.


While it is true that God is in control, by the state of the world, does it look like Jesus is ruling with a rod of iron? You might want to turn on the news once and awhile to see all of the shootings, the murders, ISIS and all the other wars going on.

:) Come on guys, enough with the little micro chip


Excuse me but, you are the one who needs to prove your position, because the implant under the skin of the hand fits the prophecy and therefore we have proof that it is going to take place in the literal sense. I am amazed at the level of Satan's deception, that the word of God says that this mark will go in the hand or forehead and we currently have people being implanted under the skin of the hand with a device that will allow them to make purchases and you say "oh, that's not it!" You and those who believe in preterism have a veil over your eyes and don't even know it.

You shouldn't be teaching this, for you know nothing about this, except what you have read in the preterist manual. With this kind of blindness, I can see that because you are stuck on the preterist view, that you would be of those standing in line to get your mark so that you can trade you card swiping for your own personal mark.

I continue to claim that preterism is one of the most deceptive and destructive false teachings out there. When you see the church has been gathered (for real) and then afterwards a political leader makes a seven year covenant with Israel allowing them to build their temple, then hopefully you will understand that preterism was wrong. From that time on you will be able to observe the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments as they take place in chronological order.

What a deception preterism is! Unbelievable!


 
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For if the gathering has already taken place at or around the destruction of the temple, then that would mean that all of the church from beyond 70AD until now will have been left out of the resurrection.


While it is true that God is in control, by the state of the world, does it look like Jesus is ruling with a rod of iron? You might want to turn on the news once and awhile to see all of the shootings, the murders, ISIS and all the other wars going on.

Every who dies is resurrected.

I believe that Jesus Christ came and got His Church, and Elected people already, and the 144,000 of the 12 tribes that He was to get, I believe that was His Church he was going to take with Him.


Excuse me but, you are the one who needs to prove your position, because the implant under the skin of the hand fits the prophecy

If what you say is true, I'll start calling you Prophet Ahwatukee, my Friend in Christ.


You can claim what I am say is not true, if you want, but there is documented information on all of it, plus I use the bible to prove my point. I have explained what the Mark is.




Revelation 13:15 The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image would also speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed. 16 And it maketh all, the small, and the great, and the rich, and the poor, and the freemen, and the servants,that it may give to them a mark upon their right hand or upon their foreheads,


Talk about leaving a mark, watching all of these things going on. Nero had people worship Him day and night, and they were in torment because of it (Just like scripture says they are tormented day and night), and if you didn't worship the beast, you were killed. If you didn't pledge alleigance to Him, you were killed, you were not able to buy sell or trade. You didn't receive the Mark, if you refused to worship Nero, you were killed...

5480. charagma


Definition: sculpture; engraving, a stamp, sign.
Mark 5480/xáragma ("brand-mark") was originally any impress on a coin or a seal, used by an engraver on a die (stamp, branding iron).5480 (xáragma) later became "the identification-marker" (like with an owner'sunique "brand-mark").
5480 xáragma – properly, an engraving (etching); (figuratively) a mark providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties.


[Ancient documents were validated by such stamps or seals (see Plutarch, Agesilaus, 15:6; De Lysandro 16:2, ala DNTT, 2, 574).]


So its kinda of like some sort of identifcation slip, you could read out from your mind by having your number, or be shown by in your hand, to be able to buy/sell/trade
 
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Everyone who dies is resurrected.


True, but the church is resurrected all at the same time, followed by the living being changed and caught up with them. Therefore, the gathering of the church is a main event where the entire church, dead and living will be gathered at the same time.

There is another resurrection after Christ returns to the earth involving the great tribulation saints who will have died during the GT. And there will also be a resurrection of the unrighteous dead at the end of the millennial kingdom.

I believe that Jesus Christ came and got His Church,


As I pointed out to you, the church is still here on the earth. When Jesus made his promise to gather us, he meant the entire church at the same time. According to what you are believing, only 37 years of the church would have been gathered and every believer after 70AD up until this present time would have been left out of the his promise to gather us.

The resurrection of the church is still future and will involve every believer in Christ from the on-set of the church until the resurrection takes place.

If what you say is true, I'll start calling you Prophet Ahwatukee, my Friend in Christ.


I would not call myself a Prophet, but just someone who studies the word of God in order to know the truth. And though my responses seem harsh sometimes, I am only trying to impress upon you the danger of what you are believing.

You can claim what I am say is not true, if you want, but there is documented information on all of it, plus I use the bible to prove my point. I have explained what the Mark is.


Yes, but the problem is that documented information is by false teachers. I can refute ever claim they make with scripture. The problem is that, it is difficult to prove the truth when those of preterism distort the scriptures. And regarding the mark, as I told you, I have been studying end-time events for over 40 years and I have been watching it evolve. The facts regarding the mark are as follows:

* Goes in/on the right hand or forehead

* Without it no one will be able to buy or sell

Currently we have people in Sweden and her sister countries and now the US, are implanting people with chips that allow a person to make purchases (buying). I have been anticipating this watching the world and waiting for it to surface, and it did. I know what I am talking about. And as further proof to you, pretty soon you will begin to see people making purchases by having their hands scanned. This implant will of course evolve into something more applicable, but what will remain consistent is that it will be used to electronically credit and debit ones bank account and will be on/in the hand or the forehead.

Revelation 13:15 The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image would also speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed. 16 And it maketh all, the small, and the great, and the rich, and the poor, and the freemen, and the servants,that it may give to them a mark upon their right hand or upon their foreheads


My personal belief is that this "Image" is none other than the abomination referred to in Daniel and quoted by Jesus, which will be placed in the holy place within the coming temple. I have other ideas regarding what the image will be, but I'll leave that for another thread. I'm very familiar with "Charagma" as I have looked up the definition many times. The thing about this is that, John is seeing something in the future where he had no technology to be able describe what he was seeing and so "Charagma/mark" is the closest thing of his time that he could compare it to.
 
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Ok fair enough, I know a few people in Sweden but maybe the next time I get a chance to talk to them Ill ask them about it, I don't think it is a big deal though personally to me, but I can I understand you know from where you are coming, because of your view looking at it to happen in the future as Im sure many people still do to this day, thanks for the response, and hearing me out on what I wanted to say friend Ahwatukee.

I use to think that there would be a huge beast really rise up out of the sea, and tear down highways and biways and cities, and destory everything around us when I was younger around 15ish, so much imagery is given in Revelation it is wild.

Have a blessed day in Christ Jesus everyone.
 

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Ok fair enough, I know a few people in Sweden but maybe the next time I get a chance to talk to them Ill ask them about it, I don't think it is a big deal though personally to me, but I can I understand you know from where you are coming, because of your view looking at it to happen in the future as Im sure many people still do to this day, thanks for the response, and hearing me out on what I wanted to say friend Ahwatukee.

I use to think that there would be a huge beast really rise up out of the sea, and tear down highways and biways and cities, and destory everything around us when I was younger around 15ish, so much imagery is given in Revelation it is wild.

Have a blessed day in Christ Jesus everyone.
If you do talk with someone there, you will find out that they lead the way in becoming a cashless society, as everyone is pretty much using electronic credit and debiting to make their purchases and to credit their accounts. Many are still using card swiping or cell phone bank apps and some companies are using RFID implants.
 

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With regards to the Image of the Beast, and the description given, with the advancements of Artificial Intelligence, a sophisticated android of some type does relate to the description given. The word "Image" is G1504 eikon, which can mean a likeness, statue. Look up strongs concordance G1504 for full reference.

And if one looks at robotic technology today, they talk. The robots that are made today look very much like their makers. Check out youtube. Quite incredible this technology to produce such a likeness. Also, for those that may not be aware, research this Sophia robot.

Here is one question. Did John of Patmos see some kind of sophisticated android??
 
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If you do talk with someone there, you will find out that they lead the way in becoming a cashless society, as everyone is pretty much using electronic credit and debiting to make their purchases and to credit their accounts. Many are still using card swiping or cell phone bank apps and some companies are using RFID implants.
Well, some people can always use a card, already today and never use any cash what so ever, so I don't see why I should keep observing that, when I still get my money out of the bank if I want to...

Or I can keep it in there, or I can have the company place my money on a card with no bank carrier, go to an atm and still withdrawl money as long as you have enough in it.

If you want to have money you should be allowed to get it out of the bank, until they stop doing that I can't really say anything other than people can walk around cashless with a card with cash, and still get that cash on the card out of an atm.
 

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Well, some people can always use a card, already today and never use any cash what so ever, so I don't see why I should keep observing that, when I still get my money out of the bank if I want to...


Because, that card is eventually going to be replaced by that mark/device under the skin of the hand which I have been telling you about. The system has been evolving to where it is currently. Now that we have people being implanted, it won't be long before paying for things by having ones hand scanned will begin to be used.

During the middle of that last seven years when the mark becomes the only method of buying and selling, then you will not be able to use a card or get your paper money, because it will have been made obsolete, in order to force the inhabitants to either receive or reject it. Those who reject it will not be able to perform any financial transactions to their digital money. Those who do receive it in order to save their lives, will suffer the following:

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And a third angel followed them, calling in loud a voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives its mark on his forehead or hand, 10he too will drink the wine of God’s anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever. Day and night there will be no rest for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”

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Valiant, you have to take into consideration that the prophecy regarding the mark was written at a time when there was zero technology to compare to what John was seeing 1900 hundred years into the future. John couldn't say, "And he forces all both great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to have a device implanted in the right hand or forehead, which will allow people to electronically credit and debit their bank accounts."

The closest word John could use to describe what he was seeing was "charagma" meaning stamp, etching, seal, impress, etc.
Where does he say 1900 years into the future? The mark was placed on the hand THEN to show who had sacrificed to the emperor. They could trade through the guilds. John was not talking about technology. He was stating a simple fact.
 

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hi all!!!!!!!!!! to all of you who believe revelation is still yet to come what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


666, No 7. No Sabbath.
 

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18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


666, No 7. No Sabbath.
Yeah, it's amazing how anyone could come to the conclusion that the mark of beast could be misinterpreted as observing the Sabbath on Sunday. This is an on-going false teaching attributed first to the Seventh Day Adventists and just repeated by others, which seems to be the norm for these last days.

It is interesting to note, that if the mark of the beast was figurative to refer to those who observe of the Sabbath on Sunday, you would think that Jesus would have mentioned it in the letters to the seven churches. Not only that, but you would think that something that is supposedly so detrimental to ones salvation that it would be mentioned in the book of Revelation and would also be mentioned somewhere in the NT. Yet, there is not one word mentioned about the church keeping the Sabbath as a requirement for salvation. In addition, the word "Sabbath" does not even appear once in the book of Revelation.
 

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Yeah, it's amazing how anyone could come to the conclusion that the mark of beast could be misinterpreted as observing the Sabbath on Sunday. This is an on-going false teaching attributed first to the Seventh Day Adventists and just repeated by others, which seems to be the norm for these last days.

It is interesting to note, that if the mark of the beast was figurative to refer to those who observe of the Sabbath on Sunday, you would think that Jesus would have mentioned it in the letters to the seven churches. Not only that, but you would think that something that is supposedly so detrimental to ones salvation that it would be mentioned in the book of Revelation and would also be mentioned somewhere in the NT. Yet, there is not one word mentioned about the church keeping the Sabbath as a requirement for salvation. In addition, the word "Sabbath" does not even appear once in the book of Revelation.
And yet, one of the biggest difference between how Jesus walked and how the greatest religious corporation in the world, the Catholic church, along with all her hundreds of daughters who follow most of her doctrines walk, is God's Sabbath that Jesus created for man.

This same great religion who created it's own Sabbath, also created the "Feast unto the Lord" called Christmas, which is also strictly forbidden by God. The greatest religious high day ever created which is, almost single handedly, responsible for the advancement of economic survival of the merchants of the world.

This same great religion followed by "many" (an understatement) also created an image of God in the likeness of some long haired man, also strictly forbidden by the Great God of Abraham, which is known world wide as the "Christian" God.

Rev. 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

A great religion that rejects it's own God, just like the Pharisees did to Jesus.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

What are "God's People" doing in this place? They have been tricked as have we all at some point.

Jesus warned of this great religion more than once.

Matt. 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Why are people following a path that leads to destruction? Are the leaders of this "Broad Path" saying, "come follow us on the path to destruction"?

No, they are deceivers as Jesus said. They are declaring "come follow us on the path to eternal life", that is why people are following them. They are cleaver, subtle, they use God's Word just like the serpent did to Eve.

So how do we keep this from happening to us?

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Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

"Walk as Jesus walked". Why was the Sabbath made for man? Humble yourself to God instead of religious man and find out. Listen to Jesus, not the Pope, and you will see.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;


17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the (Religious people of the) world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

21 He that hath my commandments,(Including the Sabbath that Jesus created for man) and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

So you have no "7", and neither does the greatest religious body on the planet. But Jesus did.
 

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And yet, one of the biggest difference between how Jesus walked and how the greatest religious corporation in the world, the Catholic church, along with all her hundreds of daughters who follow most of her doctrines walk, is God's Sabbath that Jesus created for man.

This same great religion who created it's own Sabbath, also created the "Feast unto the Lord" called Christmas, which is also strictly forbidden by God. The greatest religious high day ever created which is, almost single handedly, responsible for the advancement of economic survival of the merchants of the world.

This same great religion followed by "many" (an understatement) also created an image of God in the likeness of some long haired man, also strictly forbidden by the Great God of Abraham, which is known world wide as the "Christian" God.

Rev. 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

A great religion that rejects it's own God, just like the Pharisees did to Jesus.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

What are "God's People" doing in this place? They have been tricked as have we all at some point.

Jesus warned of this great religion more than once.

Matt. 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Why are people following a path that leads to destruction? Are the leaders of this "Broad Path" saying, "come follow us on the path to destruction"?

No, they are deceivers as Jesus said. They are declaring "come follow us on the path to eternal life", that is why people are following them. They are cleaver, subtle, they use God's Word just like the serpent did to Eve.

So how do we keep this from happening to us?

14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

"Walk as Jesus walked". Why was the Sabbath made for man? Humble yourself to God instead of religious man and find out. Listen to Jesus, not the Pope, and you will see.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;


17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the (Religious people of the) world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

21 He that hath my commandments,(Including the Sabbath that Jesus created for man) and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

So you have no "7", and neither does the greatest religious body on the planet. But Jesus did.
Not sure what your point is with all that you posted above, but my post was in response to your "666, No 7. No Sabbath."

The mark of the beast has nothing to do with the Sabbath, nor is the keeping of the Sabbath a requirement for salvation. That greatest religious body (Roman Catholicism) is the woman who rides the beast! She is a counterfeit church that is hiding right out in plain site and will most likely be the catalyst for that one world religious system that is coming, as she fits all of the characteristics of Mystery, Babylon.
 
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18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


666, No 7. No Sabbath.

No Rest day or Night...

How clever.