KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

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trofimus

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KJV1611 said:
You, Lord, will keep the needy safe
and will protect us forever from the wicked,
8 who freely strut about

Does the Lord keep the needy safe? Does this really happen, are all the needy people in the world safe today or have they been safe through out the years?
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My quesion was, if Bible can change what was in it before, how do you decide when the new inspiration comes.

Feeling is not sufficient, because feeling cannot decide details.
 
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trofimus said:
So, if we can have three different versions in Bible and they are all good for us to read without any problem, why do you say that we can have only one version of translation of it because more versions = confusion and corruption etc?
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John146 said:
The difference is one is God's doing and the other is man's doing.
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Exactly! That is the message we have been trying to put across to you! That God authored the Scripture, and man did the translating!

Not that I expect you to accept your own statement as truth... I'm not that naive.
 
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MarcR said:
All you say is true. There are people on the forum with many misunderstandings that are in no way attributable to the NIV.

If Job 38:7 were not in the Bible, you would have made an excellent case. As it is I don't see it as you do.
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I believe the new testament unlocks some of the mysteries of the Old Testament... I think Paul was referencing that passage when speaking of Satan being a messenger of light.
 
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trofimus said:
Go to a nature and sleep there. Before the dawn, look at the sky. You will know, then.
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Or, if you are lazy to go to nature... :)

[video=youtube;OwavAXgl7XE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwavAXgl7XE[/video]
 
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James37 said:
Here is a question. Why the son of the morning or dawn?
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(הילל בן שחר). Helel Ben-Schachar is translated into English as O shining star, son of the dawn.


There is no need for confusion. Stars are used as allusions to angels in several verses of prophecy, notably in Revelation.
 
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trofimus said:
Or, if you are lazy to go to nature... :)

[video=youtube;OwavAXgl7XE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwavAXgl7XE[/video]
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I have seen Venus and this answers nothing!
 
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Lucy-Pevensie said:
(הילל בן שחר). Helel Ben-Schachar is translated into English as O shining star, son of the dawn.


There is no need for confusion. Stars are used as allusions to angels in several verses of prophecy, notably in Revelation.
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What makes him the "son of the dawn."
 
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trofimus said:
My quesion was, if Bible can change what was in it before, how do you decide when the new inspiration comes.

Feeling is not sufficient, because feeling cannot decide details.
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I'm trying to show you that common sense says that the NIV is wrong in that verse. God has not protected the needy nor the poor, they suffer and die all the time. If the NIV would have said "poor in spirit" then I might question it because God does protect the "poor in spirit" because that is God's hidden way of reffereing to saved people in the KJV.

But the fact that KJV says God protects against those that PUFFETH, it means that the pure words of the Lord protect people from the haughty.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Light bearer = morning star???
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Lucifer has nothing to do with morning star except that both relate back to Job 38:7 and to the Hebrew cochav.
 
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Think about light and darkness being co-mingled with each other. The separation of light and darkness and Bible verses on the subject.
 
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James37 said:
Think about light and darkness being co-mingled with each other. The separation of light and darkness and Bible verses on the subject.
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Quantum tunneling?
 
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MarcR said:
Lucifer has nothing to do with morning star except that both relate back to Job 38:7 and to the Hebrew cochav.
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I agree, that's why the ???? was added. Lucifer means light bearer, not morning star.
 
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MarcR said:
Lucifer has nothing to do with morning star except that both relate back to Job 38:7 and to the Hebrew cochav.
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How was Venus called in Latin, if not "Lucifer"?
 
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Quantum tunneling?
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It is the idea of fusing opposite things together such as light and darkness. The so called yin and yang or checkered board floor of freemasonry. The false god of the mystery religions!
 
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trofimus

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James37 said:
It is the idea of fusing opposite things together such as light and darkness. The so called yin and yang or checkered board floor of freemasonry. The false god of the mastery religions!
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You have so many unrelated connections in your thinking...
 
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James37 said:
What makes him the "son of the dawn."
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Hebrew does.

Ben means son. As in Yeshua Ben Yosef (Jesus son of Joseph)



shachar: dawn
Original Word: שָׁ֫חַר
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: shachar
Phonetic Spelling: (shakh'-ar)
Short Definition: dawn


A Title. Not a proper name.
 
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James37 said:
It is the idea of fusing opposite things together such as light and darkness. The so called yin and yang or checkered board floor of freemasonry. The false god of the mastery religions!
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Right, it's the quantum state where a light switch can be on and off at the same time... quantum physics it's how quantum computers work.
 
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