KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

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trofimus

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Ok, its 00:30 here, so time to go sleep for me...
 
Lucy-Pevensie

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joefizz said:
Hmm lazy I don't see how including a relevant language is being "Lazy"...
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Latin isn't relevant at all if you are translating from Hebrew to English. There was no reason to insert a foreign word into the text.
 
Dino246

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James37 said:
The King James Bible is up to date and relevant so anyone who reads Isaiah 14 understands who is being spoken of. The phrase "morning star" leads to confusion.
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bewrayeth
bowels (not of anatomy)
chambering
conversation (not of spoken dialogue)
fain
graff
peradventure
shambles
trow

Yup... right up to date. Someone's date is not 2018.
 
blue_ladybug

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Whut in the name of Sam Hill is this gibberish? LOL


Dino246 said:
bewrayeth
bowels (not of anatomy)
chambering
conversation (not of spoken dialogue)
fain
graff
peradventure
shambles
trow

Yup... right up to date. Someone's date is not 2018.
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KJV1611

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Dino246 said:
bewrayeth
bowels (not of anatomy)
chambering
conversation (not of spoken dialogue)
fain
graff
peradventure
shambles
trow

Yup... right up to date. Someone's date is not 2018.
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The KJV is most definitely not up to date with modern language. If the Bible changed with language it would be in a constant state of flux.
 
Lucy-Pevensie

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James37 said:
I know one thing. The servants of the Devil acknowledge the names Lucifer, Belial, Satan, and Leviathan but not morning star (as far as I know). Lucifer is the name of one of the books of in Satanic bible.
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None of those (with the exception of Belial) are names. Satan means accuser. Titles reveal characteristics. We allow the Bible to define things not the works of the enemy.
 
James37

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trofimus said:
Go to a nature and sleep there. Before the dawn, look at the sky. You will know, then.
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[FONT=&quot]“I will ascend into heaven” is Venus ascending in the morning or is it the sun?[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“I will exalt my throne above the stars of God” does venus blot out the light from the other stars or is it the sun?[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“I will ascend above the heights of the clouds” As the day progresses is it venus you see above the clouds or is it the sun?[/FONT]
 
Lucy-Pevensie

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Dino246 said:
bewrayeth
bowels (not of anatomy)
chambering
conversation (not of spoken dialogue)
fain
graff
peradventure
shambles
trow

Yup... right up to date. Someone's date is not 2018.
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Almug
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Charashim
Chode
Cracknels
Gat
Habergeon
Hosen
Kab
Ligure
Neesed
Nusings
Ouches
ring-straked
sycamyne
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MarcR

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James37 said:
Is not venus a she? Can she be as son? Maybe in the gender neutral NIV :)
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As it happens, the Greek language, unlike Latin,has a neuter gender. Since German has the same relationship with Greek that Spanish and Italian have to Latin, German also has a neuter Gender. Because of Anglo-Saxon influence, English has a neuter gender. The fact that Venus is feminine in Latin is immaterial.
 
James37

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MarcR said:
As it happens, the Greek language, unlike Latin,has a neuter gender. Since German has the same relationship with Greek that Spanish and Italian have to Latin, German also has a neuter Gender. Because of Anglo-Saxon influence, English has a neuter gender. The fact that Venus is feminine in Latin is immaterial.
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“I will ascend into heaven” is Venus ascending in the morning or is the sun?

“I will exalt my throne above the stars of God” does venus blot out the light from the other stars or is it the sun

“I will ascend above the heights of the clouds” Around noon is it venus you see above the clouds or is it the sun.


Does venus fit the profile base on what Isaiah 14 says?

"See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise," (Ephesians 5:15)




 
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MarcR said:
As it happens, the Greek language, unlike Latin,has a neuter gender. Since German has the same relationship with Greek that Spanish and Italian have to Latin, German also has a neuter Gender. Because of Anglo-Saxon influence, English has a neuter gender. The fact that Venus is feminine in Latin is immaterial.
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Do you know anything about linear a or b ?
 
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Lucy-Pevensie said:
Latin isn't relevant at all if you are translating from Hebrew to English. There was no reason to insert a foreign word into the text.
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Well the bible "wasn't just for those who read English and Hebrew",it's not outlandish to "broaden horizons" after all the latin language is like "a code" perhaps the purpose was for "certain dictator type nations" that were opposed the Judaism and Christianity,it's not irrelevant to have different languages used for view by only some who "understood" particular languages,I mean English to Hebrew would reach athe great majority but the intention was for "All" to have access to the bible in as many languages as possible/needed.
 
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James37 said:
I know one thing. The servants of the Devil acknowledge the names Lucifer, Belial, Satan, and Leviathan but not morning star (as far as I know). Lucifer is the name of one of the books of in Satanic bible.
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Dare I ask,"how you know this"?
it's not spiritually good to go lurking where you ought not to I know from a bit of experience myself...
 
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And for all those wondering I'm not upset with Lucy,just don't understand how a bit of Latin in the bible "changes anything" from her's and other's perspectives it seems quite "a small thing" to me,but at the same time somewhat worth mentioning...
 
James37

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joefizz said:
Dare I ask,"how you know this"?
it's not spiritually good to go lurking where you ought not to I know from a bit of experience myself...
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I have seen the table of contents.

It is called elemental witchcraft and many people are exposed to it and they do not even know it. earth (Belial), wind (Lucifer) fire (Satan) and water (Leviathan). This stuff is in cartoons that children are watching, movies, churches, to name a few and people are unaware because they lack knowledge!
 
James37

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James37 said:
I have seen the table of contents.

It is called elemental witchcraft and many people are exposed to it and they do not even know it. earth (Belial), wind (Lucifer) fire (Satan) and water (Leviathan). This stuff is in cartoons that children are watching, movies, churches, to name a few and people are unaware because they lack knowledge!
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Witchcraft can be found in the Message Bible also! Matthew 6:7-13 in the phrase "as above so below"
 
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of course satan is now and always will be trying to usurp our Saviour -
he won't quit and has no bounderies -

he is doing his best in the 'new-age' bibles to try and take away Jesus' Authority/Name, in word and deed...

be on your toes B&S, for he is so wily and slithery that he can, if you aren't careful, do his best to
steal your Love and Soul...the battles that we are witnessing today, are mind boggling!!!
 
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