KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES
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I dont know you any more than you know me. I did not make any kind of judgemental attack on you and your beliefs and hope that you werent towards me. I am simply stating that when it comes down to our Blessed Redeemer, what light are we shining into this dark world?
I will tell you something that you dont know about me, I do not feign love for others...as God knows the depth of the love He alone has grown in me from a very young age. He has given me a true forgiving heart to any who would choose to persecute me...and this has been a true blessing in my life because the devil seeks to devour us with our own pride and hate at every turn.
After a life a terrible hurt and pain, most would expect a hardened heart...He never allowed that. Perhaps Your words are simply just words of misunderstanding of the absolute power He has to work in the most heartbreaking lives?
I choose to love you no matter what you could ever say to me... and there aint nuttin you can do about it! ; )
I dont need to hide behind a website. I will love you to your face if God ever gives me the opportunity...but He also uses this website as a means to draw people to Him. For me, it has been a means of sharing who He is and what He can do. Part of ministry and fellowship when I could not leave my home due to illness and loosing the ability to walk. He used it to give me renewed purpose and a way to serve Him. (cause He knows what He's doing! He's God!) After all, I owe Him my life, yet He really asks for nothing.
I will tell you something that you dont know about me, I do not feign love for others...as God knows the depth of the love He alone has grown in me from a very young age. He has given me a true forgiving heart to any who would choose to persecute me...and this has been a true blessing in my life because the devil seeks to devour us with our own pride and hate at every turn.
After a life a terrible hurt and pain, most would expect a hardened heart...He never allowed that. Perhaps Your words are simply just words of misunderstanding of the absolute power He has to work in the most heartbreaking lives?
I choose to love you no matter what you could ever say to me... and there aint nuttin you can do about it! ; )
I dont need to hide behind a website. I will love you to your face if God ever gives me the opportunity...but He also uses this website as a means to draw people to Him. For me, it has been a means of sharing who He is and what He can do. Part of ministry and fellowship when I could not leave my home due to illness and loosing the ability to walk. He used it to give me renewed purpose and a way to serve Him. (cause He knows what He's doing! He's God!) After all, I owe Him my life, yet He really asks for nothing.
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OK... in that case "today I begotten you" is from eternity 
So the only difference will be if it means His physical body or not.
So the only difference will be if it means His physical body or not.
7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
KJV
The Hebrew word translated begotten means caused you to be conceived.
and Luke 1:30-35
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God
KJV
IMO, no other assumption makes sense.
Lighthearted,
From very limited contact, you seem to be a lovely lady. Don't let Joseppi upset you. He insults everyone over anything, regardless how trivial, that he remotely disagrees with. He is not worth being upset over. If he liked you, that,IMO, would be more insulting than his insults; only because you DON'T want to be what he likes.
From very limited contact, you seem to be a lovely lady. Don't let Joseppi upset you. He insults everyone over anything, regardless how trivial, that he remotely disagrees with. He is not worth being upset over. If he liked you, that,IMO, would be more insulting than his insults; only because you DON'T want to be what he likes.
Thanks y'all but he doesn't bother me. If my God is for me, who can stand against me? God has my back in all things because I seek His will in my life. I have nuttin but love. After what Christ did for me, what's a little persecution to share His message? Should we not be willing to die daily? Why not? Cause every morning, He renews the mind and refreshes the Spirit within! Thank you Jesus! He's awesome y'all!
Only twice have I ever let anyone unnerve me on this sight, and until He dealt with me over my response (which wasn't the best way to respond to a fellow brother and sister in His eyes) and truly showed me a better way, I couldn't begin to see that we are all in different places in our relationships with Him....bearing fruit in accordance to His purpose for each of us.
Only twice have I ever let anyone unnerve me on this sight, and until He dealt with me over my response (which wasn't the best way to respond to a fellow brother and sister in His eyes) and truly showed me a better way, I couldn't begin to see that we are all in different places in our relationships with Him....bearing fruit in accordance to His purpose for each of us.
Here is an excerpt from my commentary. A link to download the full commentary can be found in the about me section of my profile.
10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the obedience of the people be.
sceptre shall not depart from Judah this is a prophesy of the Davidic monarchy
nor the ruler’s staff
Brown Driver Briggs Hebrew Lexicon renders this ‘Commander’s Staff’;
Rabbi J. H. Hertz translation and commentary Pentateuch and Haftorahs p 185 Soncino Press London 1937 renders it ruler’s staff.
Persian and Assyrian kings are often depicted on their monuments with a staff between their knees.
from (Rabbi J. H. Hertz commentary on this verse Pentateuch and Haftorahs p 185 Soncino Press London 1937)
obedience יִקְּהַ֥ח obedience (BDB)
Shiloh שַׁילֹה means Tranquil or Peaceful
until Shiloh come Christian and Jewish scholars agree this is to be understood as the promise of a Messiah.
The birthright had two components: a double portion of the inheritance, which went to Joseph; and Spiritual leadership of the family, which went to Judah.
10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the obedience of the people be.
sceptre shall not depart from Judah this is a prophesy of the Davidic monarchy
nor the ruler’s staff
Brown Driver Briggs Hebrew Lexicon renders this ‘Commander’s Staff’;
Rabbi J. H. Hertz translation and commentary Pentateuch and Haftorahs p 185 Soncino Press London 1937 renders it ruler’s staff.
Persian and Assyrian kings are often depicted on their monuments with a staff between their knees.
from (Rabbi J. H. Hertz commentary on this verse Pentateuch and Haftorahs p 185 Soncino Press London 1937)
obedience יִקְּהַ֥ח obedience (BDB)
Shiloh שַׁילֹה means Tranquil or Peaceful
until Shiloh come Christian and Jewish scholars agree this is to be understood as the promise of a Messiah.
The birthright had two components: a double portion of the inheritance, which went to Joseph; and Spiritual leadership of the family, which went to Judah.
MarcR, Deade here again, doesn't this suggest that there must be a physical kingdom. But when Zedekiah and his sons were killed it ended the physical Kingdom of Judah. Later Persian King Cyrus ordered the temple to be rebuilt. Judah was then established as a vassal state. Jeconiah was set up as governor. Some try to claim that was a kingdom, but scripture says otherwise.
This Jeconiah was not the heir to the promised sceptre: “Is this man Coniah (Jeconiah) a despised broken idol? Is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? Wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord. Thus saith the Lord, write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: For no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:28-30). So we see the septre (kingship) of Judah completely thrown down. Where is the kingdom?
This Jeconiah was not the heir to the promised sceptre: “Is this man Coniah (Jeconiah) a despised broken idol? Is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? Wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord. Thus saith the Lord, write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: For no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:28-30). So we see the septre (kingship) of Judah completely thrown down. Where is the kingdom?
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MarcR, Deade here again, doesn't this suggest that there must be a physical kingdom. But when Zedekiah and his sons were killed it ended the physical Kingdom of Judah. Later Persian King Cyrus ordered the temple to be rebuilt. Judah was then established as a vassal state. Jeconiah was set up as governor. Some try to claim that was a kingdom, but scripture says otherwise.
This Jeconiah was not the heir to the promised sceptre: “Is this man Coniah (Jeconiah) a despised broken idol? Is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? Wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord. Thus saith the Lord, write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: For no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:28-30). So we see the septre (kingship) of Judah completely thrown down. Where is the kingdom?
This Jeconiah was not the heir to the promised sceptre: “Is this man Coniah (Jeconiah) a despised broken idol? Is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? Wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord. Thus saith the Lord, write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: For no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:28-30). So we see the septre (kingship) of Judah completely thrown down. Where is the kingdom?
So MarcR, you think Jesus' ruling from heaven is the fulfillment of the Septre promise?
I think Jesus rule in the hearts of Believers is also fulfillment of the sceptre promise.
This movement appears to have started with a Book entitled "Our Authorized Version Vindicated" by Benjamin Wilkinson, an SDA college president in 1930.
The movement was promoted by Peter Ruckman, Gail Riplinger, and Jack Chick in the mid to late 1940s and continuing into the 21st century.
Jerry Fallwell of Liberty College in Virginia has been an outspoken proponent in connection with his 'Moral Majority' movement.
The movement was promoted by Peter Ruckman, Gail Riplinger, and Jack Chick in the mid to late 1940s and continuing into the 21st century.
Jerry Fallwell of Liberty College in Virginia has been an outspoken proponent in connection with his 'Moral Majority' movement.
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