FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS...MORE WILL BE GIVEN.. what does this mean?????

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Bug I keep getting the feeling from you that you have some fear of God. And maybe some frustration and anger mixed in there also, from the why doesn't He heal everyone thread.

He's going to bring you through that. Just keep trusting Him in everything. And your trust is growing so there's no reason to fear because you see you aren't the worthless servant because He has been faithful to you to carefully grow your trust.
 
The third person thought the Master was a hard man. Because of it he did little with what the Master gave him. "You reap where you do not sow." You'll notice the Master didn't correct him. He simply showed that if you thought I was a hard man you still should have sought to bring increase to what I've given you. Given these ideas, I believe Jesus is addressing faith, if you have little faith you still need to use what you have.
 
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UnderGrace said:
Are you sure the Kingdom of Heaven is being discussed?
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Of course.

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom... For [the kingdom of heaven] is as a man travelling into a far country,who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods...And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Mt 25:1,14,30)

Verse 1 makes it clear that the Kingdom of Heaven is under discussion. In verse 14, "the kingdom of heaven" has been correctly inserted in the KJV since the theme has not changed throughout this chapter, but that phrase is omitted in the modern versions because it is not in the Greek text. However Ὥσπερ γὰρ -- "As indeed"( translated as "For it is...") connects the Parable of the Talents to the Parable of the Ten Virgins, so it is indeed the Kingdom of Heaven that is under consideration.

 
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You know what...? I keep getting bug and UG mixed up...you guys are both so...simple in your trust, child-like, and that is good, not bad. But you seem you could be sisters to me and I confuse the two of you. My apologies.
 
Okay sweetie,:D

The master is enraged because he did not make money and the servant questioned the ethics of the Master of reaping where he did not sow.

The talents represent our desire to control our salvation (like we control money) thinking if we keep investing in good works we will be saved.....works righteousness.

In Jesus' time only the rich and powerful could afford to be righteous and pure according to the laws and traditions of ancient Israel.

It is not an economic transaction that ensures our salvation, Jesus is preaching against this, and showing the reality of how soon the crowd will turn on Him, like the master turns on the servant for not making a profit.




Stunnedbygrace said:
Slow down grasshopper! :)
Your question was why people think the master in the parable represents God. That was what I answered to. ( I also answer to sweetie. :D)

I have given my opinion that I believe the talents represent our trust (faith). But that IS a gift.

If you read the parable, the master was not enraged at only getting 15 talents for 8. He spoke harshly to ONLY the man who had done NOTHING and had NO growth.

Only answered your first few paragraphs but dogs are barking gotta go
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Its definitely one way of looking at it, UG. :)

We ARE in total agreement that it ISN'T a lesson about what Jesus wants us to do with money. :)

Thanks for calling me sweetie. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Grandma used to call me sweetie. :)
 
Let's look at this Parable through another lens.

Jesus discusses this same idea of more light causing more judgment in another passage here:

First in Matt 11:23 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to heaven? No, you will descend to Hades! For if the miracles that were performed in you had happened in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. 24But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you."

Then in John 3:20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.

If the light didn't exist their deeds wouldn't be exposed. When more light is given the judgment attached to it increases. As such to whom more is given more is required.

And finally in Luke 12:47 And that servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. 48But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.

And while I don't agree this passage is talking only about money, I do believe possessions are included.

Because of the verse proceeding it: Luke 12:44 Truly, I say to you, he will set him over all his possessions.
 
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The idea being not that we want more possessions. But the idea being that God will sow before He asks us to reap. If He wants us to take care of orphans He will supply what is needed. I believe He gives us what He requires of us.
 
Yes, it was inserted....good to know

Even with that, I still think that the parable can represent that kingdom of heaven in that Jesus has come as the servant to die on the cross.

Surely this is a parable and there is no money in heaven so it is not a direct reference to the heaven where God is, but rather a broader view of the kingdom of heaven/eternity that is within us having been gained by Jesus as the servant.

It states the kingdom of heaven is like a man, it does not say Master, so given that Jesus was bucking the religious system and about to go to the cross his role could be the lowly servant who is mistreated by his master,

He was truly one who had little and even more was taken from him.




Nehemiah6 said:
Of course.

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom... For [the kingdom of heaven] is as a man travelling into a far country,who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods...And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Mt 25:1,14,30)

Verse 1 makes it clear that the Kingdom of Heaven is under discussion. In verse 14, "the kingdom of heaven" has been correctly inserted in the KJV since the theme has not changed throughout this chapter, but that phrase is omitted in the modern versions because it is not in the Greek text. However Ὥσπερ γὰρ -- "As indeed"( translated as "For it is...") connects the Parable of the Talents to the Parable of the Ten Virgins, so it is indeed the Kingdom of Heaven that is under consideration.
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"reaping where thou hast not sown"

Is reaping where one has not sown, wrong?




Cee said:
The third person thought the Master was a hard man. Because of it he did little with what the Master gave him. "You reap where you do not sow." You'll notice the Master didn't correct him. He simply showed that if you thought I was a hard man you still should have sought to bring increase to what I've given you. Given these ideas, I believe Jesus is addressing faith, if you have little faith you still need to use what you have.
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UnderGrace said:
"reaping where thou hast not sown"

Is reaping where one has not sown, wrong?
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I don't like to look at things in terms of right and wrong. I believe that's the knowledge of good and evil. But what do you mean specifically? I suppose you could see it a few ways. If God requires more out of us than we have, you could say it will lead to greater dependency on Him. If God gives more than He requires, you could say that He is a generous God. And we know that we have what we need to move forward. If you take both of those ideas, we see that God is our provider whether we have it or not, we have Him thus we have all we need. Because He is good and He is faithful to complete what He starts. And it is He who gives us even the desire to start.
 
UnderGrace said:
Why do we assume the master in this parable is God?

Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you scattered no seed, 25 so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming I should have received what was my own with interest. (ESV)
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Hi UnderGrace, I think many people in the world as well as Christians misrepresent the goodness of God because they fail to look at or see the Son who is the full representation of God the Father.

There is a lot in this parable about the faithfulness of God and the lack of proper vision of us saved people. Unless we see these Bible stories and verses in light of Jesus we miss the true interpretation. Jesus said "to everyone who HAS" I believe it means faith and developing faith in the goodness of God and His Word. We all have a measure of faith and no matter what the measure is it can move mountains because it's not of us it's a gift we were given.

I believe this and believe it's our calling to walk out what we HAVE been given and we do it in our new man. It's vitally important to KNOW who that "new born again man" is. We have been made that new man IN Christ. And what we have been given is also because of being IN Christ.

To not agree with what God says we ARE and HAVE IN Christ is to walk in unbelief. God has freely given us all we need for life and godliness. God didn't even spare His own Son., The Bible says He has freely given us all other things that are not as vital as having Jesus but those who have Jesus have all they need according to Romans 8:32

[SUP]32 [/SUP]He who did not withhold or spare [even] His own Son but gave Him up for us all, will He not also with Him freely and graciously give us all [other] things?


It's not God who takes what we need away., Jesus never killed., stole or destroyed. God our Father is the ONE who GAVE us Jesus and in Him we have been given all we need for today and all the way into eternity. We got saved by grace through faith and now we are called to acquire all other things the same way... by grace through faith. We can ask and know we will receive ... why? Because God says so. Mark 11:24

For this reason I am telling you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe (trust and be confident) that it is granted to you, and you will [get it].
 
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Another thing to consider in this matter and see what the answer is... Where IS the kingdom of God? Luke 17:21
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Nor will people say, Look! Here [it is]! or, See, [it is] there! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you [in your hearts] and among you [surrounding you].
 
Is reaping where one has not sown, wrong?
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Not in Gospel terms.

And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth. I sent you to reap that whereon ye bestowed no labour: other men laboured, and ye are entered into their labours. (John 4:37,38)
 
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Stunnedbygrace said:
Bug I keep getting the feeling from you that you have some fear of God. And maybe some frustration and anger mixed in there also, from the why doesn't He heal everyone thread.

He's going to bring you through that. Just keep trusting Him in everything. And your trust is growing so there's no reason to fear because you see you aren't the worthless servant because He has been faithful to you to carefully grow your trust.
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joaniemarie said:
Another thing to consider in this matter and see what the answer is... Where IS the kingdom of God? Luke 17:21
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Nor will people say, Look! Here [it is]! or, See, [it is] there! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you [in your hearts] and among you [surrounding you].
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I believe "the Kingdom of God/Heaven" is one of the titles of Jesus, as well as an actual Kingdom. So He is within us if we are born again.
 
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