No, absolutely not. I believe they were saved and had the Holy Spirit in them, because that's what the bible says. They were falling for a false gospel and Paul was correcting them.
KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES
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OK, so why are you posting verses about Galatians, how does it relate to the question If unsaved ones can have the Holy Spirit?
No I can't name another perfect bible, if never even looked at a Bishops or Tyndell bible in my life. I read the 1769, it's easier to read than 1611.
Because Paul is travailing to birth Christ in the SAVED Galatian believers.
[h=1]Galatians 4:19 King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT="]19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,[/FONT]
You changed the verse a little.
Paul did not say he is travailing to birth Christ in them, but to form Christ in them.
I haven't moticed any difference in the messages of both so I would say both are inspired.
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I think the KJV is at the top as far as translations go, I personally like the 1900 KJV pure Cambridge Edition
but a new modern bible that I think gives the KJV a run for the finish line is the New Heart English Bible for the most it lines up with the KJV.
but a new modern bible that I think gives the KJV a run for the finish line is the New Heart English Bible for the most it lines up with the KJV.
So the inspiration is only to a "message level", not to every word level? There can be "small" errors like "you vs them"?
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"Oh, my dear children! I feel as if I'm going through labor pains for you again, and they will continue until Christ is fully developed in your lives."
New Living Translation - NLT
That's why I read the KJV lol.
"Oh, my dear children! I feel as if I'm going through labor pains for you again, and they will continue until Christ is fully developed in your lives."
New Living Translation - NLT
Sure, it cannot be done differently
But do you think they understanding is wrong?Aaand you overlooked my question:
So the inspiration is only to a "message level", not to every word level? There can be "small" errors like "you vs them"?
The meaning is completely different between the 2 bibles, it's not just the addition of a couple of words, those words completely changed the meaning of the verse.Sure, it cannot be done differently
Aaand you overlooked my question:
So the inspiration is only to a "message level", not to every word level? There can be "small" errors like "you vs them"?
And yes I think their understanding is wrong, can I prove it, no. All I can say is that the 2 bibles will form 2 different Christs in the readers.
Clearly you believe that one "Christ" is true and the other is false. I welcome you to unpack this and describe the characteristics of each "Christ" sufficiently so that others can understand your reasoning.
Sure no problem. Everbody has a view of Christ based on what we've been taught and read. That is the Christ in them. The Christ in me IS NOT the same Christ that's in someone who came to understand Christ a different way than I did.
But Christ is not just some knowledge in you which you have been taught or which you read. He is a person.
So if you are a real Christian, He is in you as He is in others. He is not different if you believe in Young Earth or Old Earth, for example.
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