Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

no God rested on the Seventh day...and Jesus is Lord even on the Sabbath...not the same as making it a legal requirement to keep the Sabbath. Nor does it say HOW ONE KEEPS THE SABBATH HOLY.

Jesus is Lord of Every day and Created every day.

More sabbaths in the Bible than just the weekly one. Perhaps you should study them.

except for the priests who profane it and held blameless....We are New Covenant priests and our bodies Holy tabernacle housing the Holy spirit....at least some of us are.

no that scripture just says that Jesus is Lord even on the Sabbath.

You can continue your wall of posts or you can have an actual conversation. Your choice

Again I did post scriptures. You just reject them.

LoveGodForever · Mar 20, 2018

mailmandan said:

God's WORD says; we are not ISRAEL of the OLD COVENANT; WE ARE ISRAEL of NEW COVENANT.

Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over our opinions.

What does God's WORD say....

WHO ARE GOD'S ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT?

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE (Galatians 3:28).

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

Colossians 3:11,
WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

Hebrews 8:10-12,
BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Gentiles are now grafted into God's ISRAEL (Romans 11:13-24)

God's ISRAEL are those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW the WORD of GOD. If you are NOT a part of God's ISRAEL then you are NOT a part of the NEW COVENANT.

It seems like God's WORD disagrees with you..

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Where does it say in God's WORD as you claim that God's SABBATH is EVERYDAY?

Where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

WHO are you following God's WORD or the teachings and traditions of your Catholic heritage?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

mailmandan · Mar 20, 2018

Gabriel2020 said:

Even thought we are not Jews spiritually, but we have been circumcised in the spirit.GALATIANS;3;28-29; There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female;for ye are all one in CHRIST JESUS.. 29; And if ye be Christ's,then are ye Abraham's seed,and heirs according to the promise.

Yes, under the New Covenant.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

What issues do you have with the concept of keeping EVERY DAY HOLY/Set apart for service to God?

You need to study and learn what Sabbath means and how God commands us to keep it and drop the false accusastions and endless walls of text.

If you can't be respectful of my requests, why should I answer you?

I have given scriptures.

To value or esteem one day above another is talking about keeping a weekly Sabbath. God says we can keep the weekly Sabbath or value each day the same....meaning we can value each day Holy unto God and rest in Him. Have Sabbath every day with God.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

Old covenant requires one day a week.(1/7)...

Isaiah 58:13
"If because of the sabbath, you turn your foot From doing your own pleasure on My holy day, And call the sabbath a delight, the holy day of the LORD honorable, And honor it, desisting from your own ways, From seeking your own pleasure And speaking your own word,

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New Covenant calls for 100% every day (7/7)

Romans 12
1I appeal to you therefore, brothers,a by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.b 2Do not be conformed to this world,c but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

What does Isaiah tell us about keeping the Sabbath?

1. Delight in keeping it.
2. Stop seeking your own pleasure (doubleminded and adulterous people is what the Bible calls such people)
3. Stop seeking to do things your own way (learn to do it Goes say via the Holy spirit and prayer)
4. Stop speaking your own words (if you speak, speak as Oracle's of God)

(these are my words but I base them on scriptures)

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

Old covenant requires 10% tithes....

New Covenant requires 100% life for God.

Is it any wonder that most people prefer the wife path and to stay under the Old Covenant and drink the old wine?

LoveGodForever · Mar 20, 2018

Ariel82 said:

Do you disagree with Jesus Ariel?

Mark 2:27, And he said unto them, THE SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN, and not man for the sabbath

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ORIGIN OF THE SABBATH BEFORE MANKIND SINNED

Genesis 2
1, Thus the heavens and the earth WERE FINISHED, and all the host of them.
2, And on the SEVENTH DAY GOD ENDED HIS WORK which he had made; and HE RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made.
3, And GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY, AND SANCTIFIED IT: BECAUSE HE HAD RESTED FROM ALL HIS WORK WHICH GOD HAD CREATED AND MADE.

Points of fact;

v2 THE SABBATH was made on the SEVENTH DAY OF the CREATION week.
v1-2 THE SABBATH was part of a FINISHED WORK OF CREATION OF ALL THINGS IN THE HEAVENS AND EARTH
v3 GOD BELSSED THE SEVENTH DAY AND MADE IT A HOLY DAY
v1-3 THE SABBATH was made BEFORE MANKIND SINNED AND BEFORE GOD'S PLAN OF SALVATION WAS GIVEN TO MANKIND (see Gen 3 which is where mankind sinned)

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GOD'S FOURTH COMMANDMENT

Now let's look at the 4th Commandment before bringing it all together.

Exodus 20
8, REMEMBER, the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10, But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

Points of fact;

v8 The commandment is to REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT A HOLY DAY
v9-10 NO WORK is to be done on the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH
v10 THIS IS GOD'S SABBATH made for mankind (Mark 2:27-28)
v8;11 THE REASON FOR THE SABBATH IS A MEMORIAL OF CREATION AND THE CREATOR

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SUMMARY

Let's bring all the points of fact together from GENESIS 2:1-3 and EXODUS 20:8-11.

Points of fact GENESIS 2:1-3;
v2 THE SABBATH was made on the SEVENTH DAY OF the CREATION week.
v1-2 THE SABBATH was part of a FINISHED WORK OF CREATION OF ALL THINGS IN THE HEAVENS AND EARTH
v3 GOD BELSSED THE SEVENTH DAY AND MADE IT A HOLY DAY
v1-3 THE SABBATH was made BEFORE MANKIND SINNED AND BEFORE GOD'S PLAN OF SALVATION WAS GIVEN TO MANKIND (see Gen 3 which is where mankind sinned)

Points of fact EXODUS 20:8-11;

v8 The commandment is to REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT A HOLY DAY
v9-10 NO WORK is to be done on the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH
v10 THIS IS GOD'S SABBATH made for mankind (Mark 2:27-28)
v8;11 THE REASON FOR THE SABBATH IS A MEMORIAL OF CREATION AND THE CREATOR

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CONCLUSION: God's SABBATH is the SEVENTH DAY of the CREATION WEEK. It is part of a FINISHED WORK of CREATION. God's SABBATH was made for MANKIND BEFORE MANKIND had SINNED.

I BELIEVE God's WORD how about you?

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Ariel82 said:

Indeed he is. How does this fact change the scriptures in the post you are quoting from?

Mark 2:28, Therefore THE SON OF MAN IS LORD OF THE SABBATH.

or as Matthew puts it....

Matthew 12:8, FOR THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.

CONCLUSION: Jesus is the CREATOR of the SABBATH DAY (Mark 2:28)

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Ariel82 said:

Correct there is different Sabbaths in the OLD Testament. That is why I posted on the previous page on COL 2 linked here and why we have another thread called COL 2 THE REAL TRUTH linked here. Read and BELIEVE God's WORD thatr disagrees with you.

CONCLUSION: COL 2 is talking about SHODOW Sabbath in ORDINANCES from the Mosaic BOOK of the OLD COVENANT.

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Ariel82 said:

So believe the scriptures and FOLLOW him who calls you in LOVE to LOVE another and thank him who calls you in LOVE to FOLLOW him. NO ONE is a NEW COVENANT BELIEVER if they are willfully breaking any of GOD's Commandments. God says they have not seen or KNOW God. (1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 3:3-9; Hebrews 6:4-8; 10:26-27)

CONCLUSION: There was an earthly temple but there is a SANCTUARY temple in HEAVEN where JESUS is our great HIGH priest (Hebrews 9)

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Ariel82 said:

You are getting your scriptures mixed up. Read Matthew 12:8. Maybe you were thinking of Mark 2:28?

Mark 2:28, Therefore THE SON OF MAN IS LORD OF THE SABBATH.

the post was quoting Matt 12:8 below....

Matthew 12:8, FOR THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.

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Ariel82 said:

God's WORD is shared to help you dear and we are also free to discuss everything in God's WORD.

So far you have posted NO SCRIPTURE. Not a SINGLE scripture that supports your OP which is that "God's SABBATH should be kept EVERYDAY"

You have posted some scripture. None of it I disagree with. The scripture you have posted however does not suppor your OP or does it say God's 4th Commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY.

God's WORD is sent you help you dear because Jesus wants to have a closer walk with you. WHO should we believe God's WORD or the teachings and tradtions of the Romans Catholic Church that leads others to break the Commandments of God?

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WARNING. copy and paste part..

Now where does it say in God's WORD as you claim that God's SABBATH is EVERYDAY?

Where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

WHO are you following God's WORD or the teachings and traditions of your Catholic heritage?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

The Eternal rest pointed to in Genesis is the same rest or Sabbath promised in Revelation 21.

You kind of miss it.

Why do you feel the need to cut and paste over and over again?

Does repetition somehow help make your point?

All it does is make folks want to quit reading what you write.

I read it the first time...repeating it over and over again isn't going to make it any clearer or make me agree with you.

All it does is show that you don't really listen or respect anyone time.

It's not loving. Its disrespectful and rude.

posthuman · Mar 20, 2018

Gabriel2020 said:

Interesting that Paul says to the Galatians that if they become physically circumcised that they make Christ of no value to them.

The law of Israel demands physical circumcision, and the Spirit speaking through Paul says that physical observation of this outward covenant rite, in the case of these Gentile believers, is pure evil.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

You don't agree with my understanding of scriptures. I don't agree with your understanding.

We have a few options.

1. We discuss why we don't agree like mature and loving adults who actually listen and respect each other.

2. We agree to disagree and go our separate ways.

3. You continue to posts repetitive walls of text while not acknowledging what I have said or showing that you have any clue about my actual beliefs because you have an intense hatred for Catholics,and I just put you on ignore and I stop responding at all because no real communication is happening anyway.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

posthuman said:

I think we might need another thread on that topic because I wonder why Paul had Timothy circumcised because one of his parents was a Jew.,,, I believe it's because the Temple hadn't been destroyed yet, but need further study into it.

Going back to the Sabbath..,how was it kept in Jesus day?

How are we to keep it today,?

since the Temple has been destroyed and Jesus told the woman at the well...that God was doing a NEW thing.

mailmandan · Mar 20, 2018

posthuman said:

Amen! Romans 2:27 - And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law? 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

Galatians 5:4 - You who want to be justified by the law have cut yourselves off from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything; the only thing that counts is faith working through love.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

John 4

19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”

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Jesus even then tells us of the New Covenant and later He tells us how the Temple will destroyed. Then how we are God's holy priests and our bodies His tabernacle because we house the Holy spirit.

If our bodies are temples, how do we keep the Sabbath?

LoveGodForever · Mar 20, 2018

Ariel82 said:

Why do you think I missed it? The problem here is that you do not have a very good understanding as to some others in regards to the OLD COVENANT and OLD TESTAMENT scriptures that the NEW is built upon.

What you have missed from GENESIS are some very important points which disagree with your intperpretation of the scriptures. Let have a look at them again here...

Genesis 2
1, Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2, And ON THE SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and he RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made.
3, And GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY, and SANCTIFIED IT <the 7th day>: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Some points to note from the scriptures...............

v1 God completed creation in 6 days and RESTED on the 7TH DAY
v2 God RESTED on the 7TH DAY
v3 God SET APART the 7TH DAY and made THE 7TH DAY a HOLY DAY
v2 The 7TH DAY is part of the FINISHED WORK of the CREATION WEEK

Once again Genesis 2:1-3 supports Exodus 20:8-11 that the Sabbath is referring to the 7TH DAY OF THE WEEK not only a REST but the REST IS LINKED to the 7TH DAY which was part of the FINISHED WORK OF THE CREATION WEEK.

Questions:

Q. When the SABBATH was made was it an UNFINISHED WORK OR A FINISHED WORK?
A. v2 FINISHED WORK. If it is it part of a FINISHED WORK then it cannot be a SHADOW OF ANYTHING because it is a FINISHED WORK!

Q. Was the Sabbath made BEFORE or AFTER SIN entered into the WORLD?
A. GENESIS 3 = THE SABBATH WAS MADE BEFORE SIN entered the WORLD. If it was made BEFORE SIN in a PERFECT CREATION in Harmony with GOD BEFORE SIN then it is not part of the PLAN of SALVATION so not a SHADOW of ANYTHING THEREFORE cannot be done away with and is not a part of something more then what it represents and that is God's as the CREATOR and GOD's CREATION.

This is where everything in your posting falls to pieces and the scriptures quoted in your post do not support your post because UNLIKE the MOSAIC book of the COVENANT God's SABBATH was made BEFORE SIN entered the WORLD and BEFORE a need for God's PLAN of salvation to which the SHADOWS pointed.

Hope this help. Sorry for my second signature added with the scriptures in them and copied and pasted to many of my posts. I do this to drive a point home with scripture that has not been addressed. I will continue to do so as God' leads.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

You don't even understand my statement, yet tell me I am wrong.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

The true eternal Sabbath rest that is the Hope of God's children that is pointed to in Genesis:
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Revelation 21 New International Version (NIV)
21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

6 He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7 Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children.

LoveGodForever · Mar 20, 2018

Ariel82 said:

And this is why we share walls of Scripture to help you. Sunday worship is a teaching and tradition from the Roman Catholic Church that has led many to break God's 4th Commandment. Many do so out of ignorance which God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to REPENT and BELIEVE the GOSPEL.

Acts 5
30, And the times of this ignorance God overlooked; but now commands all men everywhere to repent:
31, Because he has appointed a day, in which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he has ordained; and of this he has given assurance unto all men, in that he has raised him from the dead.

Hebrews 10
26, For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
27, But a certain fearful expectation of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

LoveGodForever · Mar 20, 2018

Ariel82 said:

What is it that you believe I do not understand what you say?

prove-all · Mar 20, 2018

Ariel82 said:

Have you studyed them? [maybe you can tell us] what the different Sabbaths are,
and what each one means , by using the bible to back your own words.
And why if done away, do we see one inforced in the mill. time frame to come?

Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

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