DO NOT BE SURPRISED... (A Word Of Warning For The Time To Come)

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Do not be surprised...







When multitudes of Christians take the mark of the beast. When pastors, friends and loved ones, who may or may not in fact be born again, take the mark and try to persuade you to do the same---telling you whatever they may to justify their actions and to persuade you: "For the sake of your children! What sort of parent would allow their children to go hungry! Is that what God would want? Do you think He is a monster, that it would be His will for His children to suffer, and innocent children, to not be able to eat or to lose their home, because their parents---who are responsible to provide for and protect them---refuse to take a mark? Didn't Jesus say that He would never leave us or forsake us, and that nothing can separate us from His love?"



Beware. People who will tell you these things are deceived themselves, and even being used of the devil, unbeknownst to them, to try to convince you to do what will be your undoing. You will save neither yourselves nor your children by taking the mark, and you will perish spiritually. Do not be deceived. Remember Eve.




And do not be surprised if church buildings all over the world, from the smallest to the greatest, are razed or set on fire, by order or encouragement of the government of the antichrist---as though God has turned His back on His people. The truth of it is that He hated what was being done in them, and they were an abomination to Him and an insult to His name; and by the hands of wicked men, He ordained that they should be destroyed and set on fire, as a testimony to the whole world that they did not honor Him and that He was not pleased with what was being done in them in His name: All the abominations that you now see in the churches, and the apostasy, in perverting the gospel and departing from and twisting the teachings of the faith, and making them whatever people want them to be to serve their own ends and to allow them to carry out the evil and unholy desires of their flesh and of their minds.



And on top of all of these abominations, which you now see, there will be yet another---the greatest of them all---when the people of God forsake Him and take the mark of the beast to save their lives on earth, and to avoid persecution, and when they bow down with the nations to worship the image of the antichrist: The abomination that makes desolate. And so shall they be left when they do it. The very thing that God declares in His word will happen to anyone who does this abomination, will happen to them also---though they quote every verse in the Bible to justify their faithlessness and rebellion, as they do now for other things.




So bear in mind, if and when the church buildings are destroyed, that it was the hand of your God that did it, through the hands of evil men, and His own mouth that gave the command---just as it was in the days of those who were before us, who we have as an example in the Scriptures, but fail to understand that we are following in their footsteps. It will not be because Satan has triumphed, that they will be torn down or set on fire, but because of the evil of God's people that they will be torn down, by God's own will. And it will be a testimony to the whole world, and to you, that this is so---that you may be ashamed of your rebellious ways and of your flagrant sins, and self-deception, and of the abominations that you used these houses for, and the sins you kept fresh in them, while calling on the name of the Lord and praising Him, to His dishonor and displeasure.




And do not be deceived by the many Christians---true or professing---who will take the mark and try to persuade you to do the same, telling you that no harm will come to you. They will be deceived. Believe the words of your God, and not the words of men over God's, as you have made a habit of doing.



We have good reason to believe that the very same thing that happened to the sanctuaries of Israel whenever they rebelled against the LORD will happen to us also, for the same reason. So no one should be surprised if it does. God is consistent in His ways.




And if and when the people of this world rejoice and mock at the destruction of them, saying that it is because the God of the Christians is not God and because Christians are not the people of God that the churches are razed and God does not prevent it or take vengeance on those who destroy them, remember that it is because God was displeased with the churches that He commanded that they be destroyed, and not because He has no power to prevent it. He never wanted them. He always wanted the hearts and lives of His people---but He got buildings instead, and sacrifice instead of obedience. And all manner of evil was being committed in the churches in His name.




The nations may exult over the destruction of the churches, but they will be foolish in doing so; for if the judgment of God begins at His household and sanctuary, and He does not spare His own people who rebel against Him, what will He do to those who have never known Him and have not obeyed the gospel? The cup of His wrath will come around to them also.
 
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What the Lord said to His people then:






Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: "Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices, and eat the flesh. For in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to your fathers or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices.

But this command I gave them: 'Obey My voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be My people. And walk in all the way that I command you, that it may be well with you.'

But they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked in their own counsels and the stubbornness of their evil hearts, and went backward and not forward...

"So you shall speak all these words to them, but they will not listen to you. You shall call to them, but they will not answer you.

And you shall say to them, 'This is the nation that did not obey the voice of the LORD their God, and did not accept discipline; truth has perished; it is cut off from their lips.

" 'Cut off your hair and cast it away;

raise a lamentation on the bare heights,

for the LORD has rejected and forsaken

the generation of His wrath.'


(JEREMIAH 7:21-24,27-29)




What do you think He is saying to His people now?


(Read the prophets, and see for yourselves that the spirit and ways of most of God's people today parallels that of the people of Israel in the time of the prophets. You know what God did then; what do you think He is getting ready to do to those who are following in the footsteps of those who were given to us as an example of what NOT to do?)
 
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And do not be deceived by the many Christians---true or professing---who will take the mark and try to persuade you to do the same, telling you that no harm will come to you.
Scripture to back this up, that Christians will be doing this?

Believe the words of your God, and not the words of men over God's, as you have made a habit of doing.
Yes, which is why I am requesting Scripture to back up your "prophesying." Also, no need to broad brush all others as if they don't listen to the Word of God.
 
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I do think this "Mark of the Beast" preaching is hilarious. Are people still waiting for the bar code tattooed on, or has it advanced according to current events yet again?
 

Lynx

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I do think this "Mark of the Beast" preaching is hilarious. Are people still waiting for the bar code tattooed on, or has it advanced according to current events yet again?
Right now it's the chip. If you get chipped, you are going to hell.

Come on, get with the times. "Bar codes are the Mark of the Beast!" is so 90's. The chip is where it's at. :rolleyes:
 
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Scripture to back this up, that Christians will be doing this?



Yes, which is why I am requesting Scripture to back up your "prophesying." Also, no need to broad brush all others as if they don't listen to the Word of God.
Even if I were to provide you with Scripture it would make no difference. I might consider doing so for someone else, but not for you. You yourself can refer to my other threads for Scripture, and to see your responses to my responses to you---for which reason I will not waste my time providing you with Scripture.

I suspect that the only people who will respond to this thread will be the usual scoffers, with whom I will not waste my time. But hopefully, others will take what I have posted into consideration and keep it in mind for the time ahead, and the Lord will use it for their good.

(Note that I did not say that the churches will certainly be burned or razed, I simply said that given the examples of the Scriptures, and what God has done in the past, and the fact that He is consistent in His ways, and given the fact that the spirit of the majority of God's people today is like that of His people in the time of Jeremiah, it would not be surprising or out of character for Him to do the same again, for the same reasons.

I HAVE, however, said with certainty that the majority of Christians who enter the Tribulation will fall away from the Lord and take the mark of the beast during that time. And this the Lord has made known to me, and will come to pass just as I have declared that it will, regardless of whether most Christians believe it---which most do not.)
 
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Most did fall away, but can you blame them? Look what was happening at the time. Rome was out to kill them all. The Jews certainly hated them for daring to go beyond Phariseeism. You can see the history of the Great Tribulation in Acts, in early church history, in the fall of the Roman Empire, and The Book of Martyrs by Fox. Most ran. The visible church went back home to their rooftops and fields. The invisible church was taken to Rome, to be killed on the way or once they got there. Killed by lions in the Coliseum. The ones who escaped that had names like John the Beloved, who ended up in exile and writing a letter of encouragement to the ones who needed it.

Most were already running when Jerusalem was destroyed. John saw it from a distance away in a real prophecy.

They hid for years. Years turned into decades. Decades turned into centuries. And the Great Tribulation drew to a close.

What you're hearing isn't from God. It's puffing yourself up for a dystopian fantasy that will never come.

Real tribulation is still happening. You don't want to become regenerated in the Middle East. Well, you do, because the Lord is so worth it. But, you? You're still waiting for America to have her moment in the sun as the Bible declared we would. Except one tiny little problem. America means nothing in the Bible. Just another land with people who need to be saved, just like 2000 years ago.

The Great Tribulation already happened. You're just promoting yourself as an authority for the Lord, while proving you are anything but. Since your theology is people-centric, it isn't theology. It's humanism posing as theology.

And, nope. I'm not really talking to you either, since you think you are too important to listen.

Instead I'm warning the babes in Christ against this silly superstition/dystopian fantasy posing as Christianity.
 

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Well as far as Christians taking the mark perhaps fake Christians will but true Christians would not. I don't even know really what the mark will actually be, it does make sense for the chip to be it though but it will be a mandatory thing and the consequence of not taking it will be death so trust me we will know what the mark is when it arrives.
 

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"Go ahead and place everyone in their own box
Quite convenient to handle them that way
You're the only one you know who carries a cross
You don't care what they care about anyway
And you pray to your god
That their eyes will be opened..."

~Ginny Owens
"Without Condition"
 

Blain

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Even if I were to provide you with Scripture it would make no difference. I might consider doing so for someone else, but not for you. You yourself can refer to my other threads for Scripture, and to see your responses to my responses to you---for which reason I will not waste my time providing you with Scripture.

I suspect that the only people who will respond to this thread will be the usual scoffers, with whom I will not waste my time. But hopefully, others will take what I have posted into consideration and keep it in mind for the time ahead, and the Lord will use it for their good.

(Note that I did not say that the churches will certainly be burned or razed, I simply said that given the examples of the Scriptures, and what God has done in the past, and the fact that He is consistent in His ways, and given the fact that the spirit of the majority of God's people today is like that of His people in the time of Jeremiah, it would not be surprising or out of character for Him to do the same again, for the same reasons.

I HAVE, however, said with certainty that the majority of Christians who enter the Tribulation will fall away from the Lord and take the mark of the beast during that time. And this the Lord has made known to me, and will come to pass just as I have declared that it will, regardless of whether most Christians believe it---which most do not.)
You know a message is only as powerful as the way it is given. The vibe I get from your message and and the way you gave it is not a good one it almost feels like you gave it as a this is from the lord and that is that no if's and's or butts kind of attitude and like you have a sort of self importance as his prophet and everyone else are mainly just scoffers.

You know It's not as if I don't agree with you at least not fully He has shown me what is coming and at times has lead me to speak of what is coming the difference is how the message was delivered. Even if people disagreed like how Lynn thinks the great tribulation has already happened I didn't call people mockers and assume that most who hear the message presented would be mockers and not listen because that wasn't the point of the message being given. All I knew to do was to speak the words and whatever God did with it was up to him but you seem to have this kind of almost hateful vibe and your message will not ever be received that way.

If you think yourself a prophet then you should know it isn't enough to simply give a warning and a message of what is to come you are to help his people become prepared for it. His prophets are to help build up his church, to strengthen them, encourage them, to help bring them closer to God in love. This storm is coming and if our hearts are not prepared non of us shall stand not even those who warned of what was coming. What if one day you go before God and you say how you spoke the message and warned them but they wouldn't listen and only scoffed you and God says to you yes you warned them of what is coming but what did you do to prepare them for it?
 

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"Bar codes are the Mark of the Beast!" is so 90's.
Actually I first heard that one in the 80s.
The 90s was more like "New World Order!!! New World Order!!!"
 

Blain

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Actually I first heard that one in the 80s.
The 90s was more like "New World Order!!! New World Order!!!"
oh ya i remember hearing about the bar code thing, also now i hear it's our social security number:/
 

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Right now it's the chip. If you get chipped, you are going to hell.

Come on, get with the times. "Bar codes are the Mark of the Beast!" is so 90's. The chip is where it's at. :rolleyes:
Chips? Nah, it's cybercurrency man! This ain't the 00's anymore.
 

Blain

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Chips? Nah, it's cybercurrency man! This ain't the 00's anymore.
I heard that they want to change currency to digital money 100% in which case that chip would make perfect sense I hear they already are trying in some states the buying and selling with the chip I mean
 

Ahwatukee

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Chips? Nah, it's cybercurrency man! This ain't the 00's anymore.
Greetings JonahLynx,

Blain is correct, we already have a match for Rev.13:16 regarding the technology for the mark. First we saw the ATM's revealed, then the Universal Product Code (UPC), followed by the Point of Sale system and now the next stage has evolved with people now being implanted under the skin of the hand for security access and also to make purchases. The stage is being set for the revealing of that antichrist, which is why we have this electronic crediting and debiting system in place. For this this is the system that mark will run on, which will eventually replace all other methods of buying and selling. It can't be cyber currency, because it must match the scripture of this mark/device going in/on the hand or the forehead, which is what has already been revealed and will continue to evolve. Please watch these videos regarding those who have been implanted with this device:


Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Company to install microchips in employees
 

Blain

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Greetings JonahLynx,

Blain is correct, we already have a match for Rev.13:16 regarding the technology for the mark. First we saw the ATM's revealed, then the Universal Product Code (UPC), followed by the Point of Sale system and now the next stage has evolved with people now being implanted under the skin of the hand for security access and also to make purchases. The stage is being set for the revealing of that antichrist, which is why we have this electronic crediting and debiting system in place. For this this is the system that mark will run on, which will eventually replace all other methods of buying and selling. It can't be cyber currency, because it must match the scripture of this mark/device going in/on the hand or the forehead, which is what has already been revealed and will continue to evolve. Please watch these videos regarding those who have been implanted with this device:


Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Company to install microchips in employees
Not to mention how many movies are showing this type of system, for instance on netflix there is a show called black mirror and on that show is an episode where peoples currency are completely digital although I do like how you earn your money buy exercise a lot of us could that lol. But it's on all kinds of movies and shows and even this game I play sometimes called starwars the old republic is totally digital currency almost as if all this is trying to get us comfortable with the idea of digital currency
 
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And before bar codes, it was emblems sewn on, like The Star of David onto Jews in Germany and Poland. And before emblems, it was becoming a Catholic.

People have been making up "prophecies" since at least the 1920s. Anyone notice? The people are dead now, and still more make up new stuff.

Aren't prophets supposed to say something to the people of their times and it's supposed to come true?

According to the Law, we're supposed to kill prophets once the prophecy doesn't happen. Think about it. Had we done that, would inventing dystopian fantasy as biblical reality be a done deal? If it cost you your life if you're wrong, don't you think you'd be more sure it's from God when you opened your mouth?

Generations of supposed-Christians have stopped living to prepare for something that never happened. What a better way to pull people away from what truly matters -- God -- than make up a story that isn't even about him? It's about THEM!
 

Lynx

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Not applicable. We would only have to kill them if they claimed they had a prophecy directly from God that they needed to tell us, and then it did not happen.

This is not people making prophecies, this is just people extrapolating from prophecies given in the Bible and saying, "Oh, this is it, this is it!" And they say it over and over and over and over, and now their children and their grandchildren are continuing the same practice, but it's still not false prophecy and worthy of being killed. It just gets really annoying. Really, really, really annoying, like annoying enough that you want to kill them...
 
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Greetings JonahLynx,

Blain is correct, we already have a match for Rev.13:16 regarding the technology for the mark. First we saw the ATM's revealed, then the Universal Product Code (UPC), followed by the Point of Sale system and now the next stage has evolved with people now being implanted under the skin of the hand for security access and also to make purchases. The stage is being set for the revealing of that antichrist, which is why we have this electronic crediting and debiting system in place. For this this is the system that mark will run on, which will eventually replace all other methods of buying and selling. It can't be cyber currency, because it must match the scripture of this mark/device going in/on the hand or the forehead, which is what has already been revealed and will continue to evolve. Please watch these videos regarding those who have been implanted with this device:


Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Company to install microchips in employees
Rev. 13:16 "And He causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"

The Scripture simply states it will be a mark and nothing more.

To say with certainty that a chip is the mark of the beast is nothing more than speculation. Offering an opinion.
No one will know for certain until it is forced on unbelievers.
 
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Not applicable. We would only have to kill them if they claimed they had a prophecy directly from God that they needed to tell us, and then it did not happen.

This is not people making prophecies, this is just people extrapolating from prophecies given in the Bible and saying, "Oh, this is it, this is it!" And they say it over and over and over and over, and now their children and their grandchildren are continuing the same practice, but it's still not false prophecy and worthy of being killed. It just gets really annoying. Really, really, really annoying, like annoying enough that you want to kill them...
More of a sew-fingers-together-so-they-can't-type kind of person myself, but I do get headaches from rolling my eyes too often.