DO NOT BE SURPRISED... (A Word Of Warning For The Time To Come)

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Blain

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Rev. 13:16 "And He causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"

The Scripture simply states it will be a mark and nothing more.

To say with certainty that a chip is the mark of the beast is nothing more than speculation. Offering an opinion.
No one will know for certain until it is forced on unbelievers.
And I suppose that as revelation speaks of a dragon with seven heads we should expect to see that as well? You have to understand that much the bible is not literal and has either a cryptic or symbolic meaning
 
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SpoonJuly

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Right now it's the chip. If you get chipped, you are going to hell.

Come on, get with the times. "Bar codes are the Mark of the Beast!" is so 90's. The chip is where it's at. :rolleyes:
My dad tells of those during the 30's who thought SS numbers were the mark and refused to sign up.
 
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SpoonJuly

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And I suppose that as revelation speaks of a dragon with seven heads we should expect to see that as well? You have to understand that much the bible is not literal and has either a cryptic or symbolic meaning
I understand very well what is literal and what is symbolic.
I stand by my statement.
Now offering an opinions is fine as long as you state it is your opinion.
But to state it as fact, not to be questioned is another thing.
 

Blain

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I understand very well what is literal and what is symbolic.
I stand by my statement.
Now offering an opinions is fine as long as you state it is your opinion.
But to state it as fact, not to be questioned is another thing.
The bible speaks of the mark but if it is only a mark then what will this mark look like and how will it be placed on a person? The mark itself is not described aside from it being related to the number of a man so if it is just a mark then how do you think it will be ?
 
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SpoonJuly

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The bible speaks of the mark but if it is only a mark then what will this mark look like and how will it be placed on a person? The mark itself is not described aside from it being related to the number of a man so if it is just a mark then how do you think it will be ?
I have no idea what it will be and neither does anyone else.
There will be a MARK. That is all that is said in the Scripture.
During the 1930's, some. people refused to take a SS card because they thought it was the mark.
I don't waste my time speculating what it might be.
 

tanakh

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The Mark of the Beast is nothing to do with Bar Codes Chips Tattoos or any other thing anything else you people dream up. The Bible tells us what it is. The Israelite's were told to bind Gods word on their Hands and foreheads. The forehead represents mans thoughts and the hand represents his works. In revelation we are told that believers are sealed with the holy Spirit. The damned are marked out by their rejection of Christ in their thoughts and actions. To receive the mark is to to give allegiance to the Beast system
 

Ahwatukee

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The Mark of the Beast is nothing to do with Bar Codes Chips Tattoos or any other thing anything else you people dream up.

Tanakh,

How can this be dreamed up, when we have a perfect match for the prophecy? The word of God states that this mark will on the hand or the forehead and that without it no one will be able to buy or sell. Currently people are being implanted under the skin of the hand, which is one match, and one of its purposes is to make electronic purchases, which is a second match. This electronic crediting and debiting system (buying and selling) is evolving in preparation for the revealing of the antichrist/beast. The very fact that this matches what scripture states is a testimony in itself of the truth and accuracy of His word.

It must be a great deception indeed in order for you or anyone else to claim that this technology is not the mark of the beast, because it tells me that because of your inability to recognize it as such, you would be one to receive it doing exactly what scripture warns us not to do. The bottom line is that, this technology is going to continue to evolve and people (all people) during that time are going to receive a mark/device in or on the hand or forehead which will replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps. in order for them to make purchases. A good rule of thumb would be to not have anything applied to ones body which would allow them to electronically buy or sell.
 
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SpoonJuly

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Tanakh,

How can this be dreamed up, when we have a perfect match for the prophecy? The word of God states that this mark will on the hand or the forehead and that without it no one will be able to buy or sell. Currently people are being implanted under the skin of the hand, which is one match, and one of its purposes is to make electronic purchases, which is a second match. This electronic crediting and debiting system (buying and selling) is evolving in preparation for the revealing of the antichrist/beast. The very fact that this matches what scripture states is a testimony in itself of the truth and accuracy of His word.

It must be a great deception indeed in order for you or anyone else to claim that this technology is not the mark of the beast, because it tells me that because of your inability to recognize it as such, you would be one to receive it doing exactly what scripture warns us not to do. The bottom line is that, this technology is going to continue to evolve and people (all people) during that time are going to receive a mark/device in or on the hand or forehead which will replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps. in order for them to make purchases. A good rule of thumb would be to not have anything applied to ones body which would allow them to electronically buy or sell.
Wrong again---

Rev. 20:4 states that there will be some who do not take the mark or worship the beast not his image.
 

Waggles

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I HAVE, however, said with certainty that the majority of Christians who enter the Tribulation will fall away from the Lord and take the mark of the beast during that time. And this the Lord has made known to me, and will come to pass just as I have declared that it will, regardless of whether most Christians believe it---which most do not.)
Thank you LightShinesInTheDarkness,
Much of what you post is to come upon us all.
There will be a great falling away as most who are not truly
Spirit-filled and are without power will belatedly realise that their
pastors and churches have lied to them.

For there will be no rapture, no escaping the terrors coming upon
this world. Apart from nuclear war (as if that isn't bad enough) this
whole planet shall shake and go through unimaginable geological
earthquakes and upheavals.

The Mark of the Beast I disagree with you. It is not futuristic but
is descriptive of the rites of the RCC, with Ash Wednesday being
one example of this, along with making the sign of the cross.

All Christians shall pass through the fire and only those who are
truly obedient to the gospel preached by Jesus and the Apostles
- truly being baptized of water and the Holy Spirit with the Bible
evidence of praying in tongues [praying in the Holy Spirit] will
have the power within to survive and go through the fire.
We will need to pray to survive the radiation poisoning [Wormwood]
that will poison everything.

As we operate the gifts of prophecy in our meetings wherein
the prophets speak by the Holy Spirit, we are fortunate to be
forewarned. But even so it will be extremely fearful and
challenging for the most devout of us.

And the world of unbelievers will hate us and attack us
and curse God rather than repent.
 
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SpoonJuly

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Tanakh,

How can this be dreamed up, when we have a perfect match for the prophecy? The word of God states that this mark will on the hand or the forehead and that without it no one will be able to buy or sell. Currently people are being implanted under the skin of the hand, which is one match, and one of its purposes is to make electronic purchases, which is a second match. This electronic crediting and debiting system (buying and selling) is evolving in preparation for the revealing of the antichrist/beast. The very fact that this matches what scripture states is a testimony in itself of the truth and accuracy of His word.

It must be a great deception indeed in order for you or anyone else to claim that this technology is not the mark of the beast, because it tells me that because of your inability to recognize it as such, you would be one to receive it doing exactly what scripture warns us not to do. The bottom line is that, this technology is going to continue to evolve and people (all people) during that time are going to receive a mark/device in or on the hand or forehead which will replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps. in order for them to make purchases. A good rule of thumb would be to not have anything applied to ones body which would allow them to electronically buy or sell.
For you to judge Tanaka as lost is disgraceful.

No Believer will take the mark. When the time comes, all the saints will recognize the anti-Christ and the mark and by the grace of God will sat no.
 

tanakh

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Tanakh,

How can this be dreamed up, when we have a perfect match for the prophecy? The word of God states that this mark will on the hand or the forehead and that without it no one will be able to buy or sell. Currently people are being implanted under the skin of the hand, which is one match, and one of its purposes is to make electronic purchases, which is a second match. This electronic crediting and debiting system (buying and selling) is evolving in preparation for the revealing of the antichrist/beast. The very fact that this matches what scripture states is a testimony in itself of the truth and accuracy of His word.

It must be a great deception indeed in order for you or anyone else to claim that this technology is not the mark of the beast, because it tells me that because of your inability to recognize it as such, you would be one to receive it doing exactly what scripture warns us not to do. The bottom line is that, this technology is going to continue to evolve and people (all people) during that time are going to receive a mark/device in or on the hand or forehead which will replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps. in order for them to make purchases. A good rule of thumb would be to not have anything applied to ones body which would allow them to electronically buy or sell.
This is a ridiculous assertion. If it happens that I am wrong and the Mark is an electronic chip of some kind there will be other indications that confirm it apart from the mark itself. Being in a society where such a thing is compulsery is a sign in itself.

Even now there are many none Christians who know about 666 and the mark without even having read the Bible but by reading fiction and watching Horror movies. The Omen film series alone was all about the Antichrist and the Mark. I expect a fair number have read the Left Behind Books as well. So if the Mark is an electronic Chip or some other Physical sign Satan has made a big mistake by giving away the plot before Antichrist has even arrived.
 
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tanakh

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I maintain that most if not all the Scriptures in the NT can be understood by reading the Bible. Otherwise they would not be understood by the people who received them first of all. The writings of the NT were given as a key to open up their understanding of the OT not to lay around for 2000 years waiting for our generation to work it all out.
 
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SpoonJuly

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I maintain that most if not all the Scriptures in the NT can be understood by reading the Bible. Otherwise they would not be understood by the people who received them first of all. The writings of the NT were given as a key to open up their understanding of the OT not to lay around for 2000 years waiting for our generation to work it all out.
I agree and would add that it is not necessary to have a degree in Theology, super natural discernment, or 40 years of study.
Anyone with average intelligence can learn and understand with prayer and proper study.
 

Noose

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The Mark of the Beast is nothing to do with Bar Codes Chips Tattoos or any other thing anything else you people dream up. The Bible tells us what it is. The Israelite's were told to bind Gods word on their Hands and foreheads. The forehead represents mans thoughts and the hand represents his works. In revelation we are told that believers are sealed with the holy Spirit. The damned are marked out by their rejection of Christ in their thoughts and actions. To receive the mark is to to give allegiance to the Beast system
Perfect, and just to add on that; buying and selling has nothing to do with the market, it means worship. When Jesus whooped the money changers from the temple saying the Father's house shall be called the house of worship for all nations- it was a teaching rather than just another worthless event. Those that worship the antichrist do so in their thoughts and deeds because they reject God and/or don't know God.
Like i always say here:
"...it shall be 2300 evenings and mornings and everything will be accomplished..."
2300 AD it is, trust me.
 

Noose

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......So if the Mark is an electronic Chip or some other Physical sign Satan has made a big mistake by giving away the plot before Antichrist has even arrived.
This is where i disagree with you, antichrist has been here for the last 2017 yrs, 2 months and 27 days and many many many people who don't know God are worshiping the antichrist. Many many many Christians are dying at the hands of antichrist. The great tribulation, commissioned by God and undertaken by antichrist is upon us now, it has been for the last 2017 yrs 2 months and 27 days.
 

tanakh

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This is where i disagree with you, antichrist has been here for the last 2017 yrs, 2 months and 27 days and many many many people who don't know God are worshiping the antichrist. Many many many Christians are dying at the hands of antichrist. The great tribulation, commissioned by God and undertaken by antichrist is upon us now, it has been for the last 2017 yrs 2 months and 27 days.
I was using the popular name for him. Actually Johns teaching about antichrist is more in line with your view. There have been many antichrists since his day. A more accurate description is Pauls. He calls him the Son perdition, (destruction) I believe there will be a particular person who will fill the role in the last days. He is also known in the Bible as the Assyrian.

An interesting fact is that the center of the Assyrian Empire was in Turkey and before conquering Israels ten Tribes they conquered Syria. That gives me food for thought.
 
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True Christians who have received the love of the truth will not take anything that comes from the Man of Sin/The Beast/The Little Horn <---Anti-Christ "SO CALLED"