Trump Is The Swamp

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jsr1221

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Does not matter......to embellish or change a quote = something not said......end of story....If I start rearranging your statements to make them say something they have not said what would that make me?
But you did say it. Quit looking for straws to grasp when there aren't any. If you're pitiful over something as juvenile as this, it says a lot about you regarding greater things. Is that what you were taught?
 

jsr1221

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Mr O is anti-Christian, a muslim, anti the US and was put in place to bring the US down

keep eating whatever it is you are being served...it definitely is having an effect
I never said said he wasn't any of those things. It'd serve you better to read through the 4 pages of posts to gain proper context, rather than pick and choose what you want to read. Or is that too much for you?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I never said said he wasn't any of those things. It'd serve you better to read through the 4 pages of posts to gain proper context, rather than pick and choose what you want to read. Or is that too much for you?

you seem to have alot of energy to spend on your anger

and yes, anyone can pick and choose what they wish to read and or respond to here

most of us like that arrangement
 

jsr1221

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you seem to have alot of energy to spend on your anger

and yes, anyone can pick and choose what they wish to read and or respond to here

most of us like that arrangement
When you pick and choose one post to comment on rather than read previous posts to gain the exact context, you do a lot of assuming. As what was previously said, you're bearing false witness. Who does that? As you previously said, a democrat does that. So you're doing what you said a democrat does. I see the lines connecting the dots.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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When you pick and choose one post to comment on rather than read previous posts to gain the exact context, you do a lot of assuming. As what was previously said, you're bearing false witness. Who does that? As you previously said, a democrat does that. So you're doing what you said a democrat does. I see the lines connecting the dots.

interesting

you are assuming I did not read previous posts...I never said I did or I did not read them

you are just being downright silly...and a good number of people get silly when it comes to the political debates

but feel free to assume, look in the mirror and call names

you are just shooting in all directions and hoping to hit something

you are anything but credible...you can have the last word if you want :rolleyes:
 
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7seasrekeyed

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when a thread starts with the ridiculous title this one has, there is only one way for it to go

probably hit rock bottom already
 

Odelschwanck

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The character limit here is not large enough to list all of what they have done ...
That's fine, I'm just curious. I hope he's draining the swamp, I just don't know that much about the people who have been fired so far.
 

RickyZ

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Assuming that those who have been drained were part of the swamp...what did they do that was swampy?
Do you remember back 10 years ago when wall street and the bankers tanked the world's economy? And then got off scott-free without any penalty or accountability for the damage they caused?

Trump handed those swamp monsters the keys to the U.S. treasury. The swamp most assuredly has NOT been drained.


 

notuptome

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Do you remember back 10 years ago when wall street and the bankers tanked the world's economy? And then got off scott-free without any penalty or accountability for the damage they caused?

Trump handed those swamp monsters the keys to the U.S. treasury. The swamp most assuredly has NOT been drained.


My hope is in the Lord. The victory is already won. Streets of gold are on my horizon. Not the gold that corrupts but gold pure and incorruptible. Still only worthy of paving material for the streets.

Just can't get cranked up about this world.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

RickyZ

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My hope is in the Lord. The victory is already won. Streets of gold are on my horizon. Not the gold that corrupts but gold pure and incorruptible. Still only worthy of paving material for the streets.

Just can't get cranked up about this world.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Unfortunately, far too many people are too wrapped up in this world's wealth and paving materials :)
 

hornetguy

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when a thread starts with the ridiculous title this one has, there is only one way for it to go

probably hit rock bottom already
.... and bounced a couple of times... I heard it.
 
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Do you remember back 10 years ago when wall street and the bankers tanked the world's economy? And then got off scott-free without any penalty or accountability for the damage they caused?

Trump handed those swamp monsters the keys to the U.S. treasury. The swamp most assuredly has NOT been drained.


Trump was president 10 years ago??? Wow I must have amnesia... :confused:
 

jsr1221

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interesting you are assuming I did not read previous posts...I never said I did or I did not read them you are just being downright silly...and a good number of people get silly when it comes to the political debates but feel free to assume, look in the mirror and call names you are just shooting in all directions and hoping to hit something you are anything but credible...you can have the last word if you want :rolleyes:
Is it really assuming when it's quoting exactly what was said? Or are you and others going to pull the good Kellyanne Conway line called "alternative facts"?
 

posthuman

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Mr O is anti-Christian, a muslim, anti the US and was put in place to bring the US down

keep eating whatever it is you are being served...it definitely is having an effect
if he's Muslim he's the worst Muslim ever, what with the never praying towards Mecca, eating pork, drinking beer, hanging out with infidels, publicly calling Jesus the Christ, our Savior and Lord, etc etc

here's a quote from 2015 Easter prayer breakfast at the white house:

With humility and with awe, we give thanks to the extraordinary sacrifice of Jesus Christ, our Savior. We reflect on the brutal pain that He suffered, the scorn that He absorbed, the sins that He bore, this extraordinary gift of salvation that He gave to us. And we try, as best we can, to comprehend the darkness that He endured so that we might receive God’s light.
And yet, even as we grapple with the sheer enormity of Jesus’s sacrifice, on Easter we can't lose sight of the fact that the story didn’t end on Friday. The story keeps on going. On Sunday comes the glorious Resurrection of our Savior.


go ahead and compare Trump's remarks -- Trump, who some of the people in this thread say is "the most Christian president in history" or even "the only​ Christian president in history"

facts are, we're sheep.
GOP propaganda heavily influences the 'Christian' population in America. we are told on talk radio and FOX TV that Obama evil antichrist, Trump blessed hope, and in large part it has nothing to do with morality or character, but everything to do with political party. let John Piper run as a democrat for office, and suddenly he'll be an antichrist muslim too. let Ted Nugent run as a republican, and he'll be a saint, the political messiah.

 
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jsr1221

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if he's Muslim he's the worst Muslim ever, what with the never praying towards Mecca, eating pork, drinking beer, hanging out with infidels, calling Jesus the Christ and Lord, etc etc

here's a quote from 2015 Easter prayer breakfast at the white house:

With humility and with awe, we give thanks to the extraordinary sacrifice of Jesus Christ, our Savior. We reflect on the brutal pain that He suffered, the scorn that He absorbed, the sins that He bore, this extraordinary gift of salvation that He gave to us. And we try, as best we can, to comprehend the darkness that He endured so that we might receive God’s light.
And yet, even as we grapple with the sheer enormity of Jesus’s sacrifice, on Easter we can't lose sight of the fact that the story didn’t end on Friday. The story keeps on going. On Sunday comes the glorious Resurrection of our Savior.


go ahead and compare Trump's remarks -- Trump, who some of the people in this thread say is "the most Christian president in history" or even "the only​ Christian president in history"
Earlier in the thread people said and agreed the US elected a president, not a pope. They excuse anything of Trump, yet basically compare Obama to the anti-Christ. Threads were made regarding it. CC has a few hyopcrites on here. As stated earlier, there are people licking the steps Trump takes. They hate Obama so much that they fail to realize Trump and Obama share qualities. Ignorance is bliss and love surely is blind. The people are giving Trump another beer and waiting on their tiptoes to hear his next words as I type this.
 

blue_ladybug

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Trump isn't a Christian. Neither is Obummer, Clinton, or either Bush..
 

jsr1221

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Trump isn't a Christian. Neither is Obummer, Clinton, or either Bush..
To point out some of the inconsistencies... People said we elected a president, not a pope. Planned Parenthood is an enemy of Christianity. People wanted Obama's head off for funding it. So we elected a president, not a pope, yet we're going to get upset over something the past president does that doesn't line up with our beliefs? We elected a president in Obama. We didn't elect him to be Christian. It's the same thing for Trump. Where's the line of reasoning? There is none when folks think with emotion and party instead of logic.
 
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posthuman

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Earlier in the thread people said and agreed the US elected a president, not a pope.

but in order to get the 'christian conservative vote' we have a party that spends millions pandering to what their market research indicates are 'conservative christians' -- they sell us political candidates like they're toothpaste or breakfast cereal or a tv show.
they sell themselves as 'party of christianity' while they have nothing at all to do with Christ. they advertise their candidates to us as though we are electing a pope, because appealing to religion sells people to us like appealing to sex sells clothes and food. 'conservative' media, acting as a mouthpiece for the GOP, painted the last election as an ultimate battle between good and evil, darkness and light, literally suggesting God would destroy the country if ((place democrat name here)) was elected and our only hope was to vote for ((place republican name here)).

and that trick works! look through the news section; there's an overarching premise that "liberals" equal sin and "conservatives" equal righteousness. what really swayed the tide in the election was christian radio preachers coming out and telling millions of listeners that voting Trump was essentially voting Jesus and voting Clinton was essentially voting Satan. nominal christians came out in droves to "save the nations soul" by casting a ballot -- exactly as if we were electing a pope & intercessor. pulpits all over the country repeated the narrative, a narrative that originated in R think tanks, designed to best advertise to a nation of sheep. a very clever and effective thing, stirring up fear, hatred and nationalism.

scary stuff, and we ought to wake up from it ((IMHO)).
 

posthuman

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Trump isn't a Christian. Neither is Obummer, Clinton, or either Bush..

of course it's hinged on what we mean by "a Christian" -- defining of which is a thread worth thousands of pages all by itself...


i can't judge people's hearts. none of these men are preachers - it's not their jobs to publicly speak about their religious doctrines and beliefs. as politicians, they're wise to obscure such things in order to appeal to and represent much larger swathes of the public.

if i was forced to guess just from snippets of what remarks they've made that have been publicly passed around, i'd say the Bushes are Christians, Obama is Christian, and Trump & Clinton are both material humanists -- but that none of them are deeply theologically-minded.

i honestly think that no one who is seriously devoted in their hearts and minds to Christ seeks political office at all. at least, when you are in that kind of vocation, you cannot devote your mind to Him: you have far too many other, secular concerns weighing on you. a president can't be a pope, just like when actual popes became charged with vast wealth and political power, their spiritual leadership suffered for it. rich men, and eyes of needles. impossible with man, only possible with God.
in that sense, i agree with what you said "none of them"

maybe now that the Bushes and Obama are out of office, they are able to concentrate more on the things of God and leave behind the things of the world. i certainly hope so.


 
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To point out some of the inconsistencies... People said we elected a president, not a pope. Planned Parenthood is an enemy of Christianity. People wanted Obama's head off for funding it. So we elected a president, not a pope, yet we're going to get upset over something the past president does that doesn't line up with our beliefs? We elected a president in Obama. We didn't elect him to be Christian. It's the same thing for Trump. Where's the line of reasoning? There is none when folks think with emotion and party instead of logic.
You are mistaken. WE did not elect Obama, THEY did.