Healing through the Son
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If you put Romans 8, 10 literal for Now. Then your body is dead. But I Support you are not a Spirit. You have an body and this body is not Dead, otherwise you would not Feel pain, ore Hunger ore thirst. You are Living in this body right. So it is not Dead Now.
Vers 8,11 speaks from the Future. Not from the present. We know from 1.Cor 15, 35ff that we will get a new spirituell body.
So we get this body After we die, ore when we still alive while he is Coming back and we meet him in the Air.
Vers 8,11 speaks from the Future. Not from the present. We know from 1.Cor 15, 35ff that we will get a new spirituell body.
So we get this body After we die, ore when we still alive while he is Coming back and we meet him in the Air.
I had the most profound dream last night about this topic. For the last few days I have been studying the Greek in the passage about communion and it’s link to sickness. And what I found was so interesting. Basically Scripture teaches us that when we eat food in doubt it can cause us to be sick. I haven’t seen this before because it’s hidden away in the Interlinear. In today’s age, we often say this is good for me or this is bad for me, but I believe this can be eating food in doubt and not faith. I’ll work out the specifics and post about it using Scripture.
But in my dream I saw that I was like the walking dead, that I was dead, but the Spirit in me was keeping me alive. And I’ve been really processing the truth that the Spirit is life. And we have rivers of life flowing out of us, and other similar Scriptures. I really feel the Lord moving in this thread. Thank you everyone for sharing your hearts! Love you all!
But in my dream I saw that I was like the walking dead, that I was dead, but the Spirit in me was keeping me alive. And I’ve been really processing the truth that the Spirit is life. And we have rivers of life flowing out of us, and other similar Scriptures. I really feel the Lord moving in this thread. Thank you everyone for sharing your hearts! Love you all!
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A resource is a resource and if a person wants to use one resource over another that is their choice. Certain study Bibles are out there to read and use as a resource and Christians prefer some over the others. Personally I have 3 and agree with some of what each one says but not all of what each one says.
IMO The New Strong's exhaustive concordance is terrific and it's what I use and like but have heard Vine's is better. But so far Strong's is the one because that is the one I purchased 3yrs ago. So far., it works.
So if you don't like Paul Ellis don't use any resources he writes or offers. Find and post who you do like. I don't particularly like John MacGarther so I don't use his resources. There are some things I do agree with him about but I prefer to go with teachers and preachers I agree with more and not those I agree with less.
But if someone posts his stuff and is encouraged by him I'm glad for them. Yaaay and yahoo. If they post his stuff and ask me about it I will answer why I don't like to listen or read his stuff. But no one asked me so I don't see any reason to get on a thread and post why "I" don't happen to like him.
IMO The New Strong's exhaustive concordance is terrific and it's what I use and like but have heard Vine's is better. But so far Strong's is the one because that is the one I purchased 3yrs ago. So far., it works.
So if you don't like Paul Ellis don't use any resources he writes or offers. Find and post who you do like. I don't particularly like John MacGarther so I don't use his resources. There are some things I do agree with him about but I prefer to go with teachers and preachers I agree with more and not those I agree with less.
But if someone posts his stuff and is encouraged by him I'm glad for them. Yaaay and yahoo. If they post his stuff and ask me about it I will answer why I don't like to listen or read his stuff. But no one asked me so I don't see any reason to get on a thread and post why "I" don't happen to like him.
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The Bible says we are spirit now. We live IN a body. This body is a shell that houses us. We are not our bodies., we are the person inside the mortal body.
The shell houses who we are.. spirit IS who we are today and forever. When this perishable puts on imperishable and this mortal puts on immortality ..... So we will get "new" bodies that will be spiritual ones like Jesus has today. But His new body could be touched and could eat yet He was not bound to time and space anymore. We will have a body like His but it will be ours individually.
Jesus is the first of many brethren.
God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth. We cannot worship God unless we are doing it from our spirit man. The flesh isn't going to worship Him. At best the flesh can make a good show of it but the Bible is clear., God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth. John 4:23-24
[SUP]23 [/SUP]A time will come, however, indeed it is already here, when the true (genuine) worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth (reality); for the Father is seeking just such people as these as His worshipers.
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24 [/SUP]God is a Spirit (a spiritual Being) and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth (reality).
This is a pretty amazing truth to me about learning to walk in our new creation. We have this human shell that Jesus has taken the power away from. Yet we still have to reckon what Jesus did to be true by faith EVERY DAY while here on earth. We are new creations in Christ and we are no longer subject to the flesh but to the Holy Spirit. Jesus broke the power of sin.
Jesus has broken the power of sin for us but He did not take the presence of sin away because each day we have 3 things that have sin in them....
1. The world
2. The flesh
3. The devil
So while we are here we have to choose to walk in our new creation by faith so those 3 things no longer defeat or define us.
This is a daily reckoning and a choice.
Jesus has broken the power of sin for us but He did not take the presence of sin away because each day we have 3 things that have sin in them....
1. The world
2. The flesh
3. The devil
So while we are here we have to choose to walk in our new creation by faith so those 3 things no longer defeat or define us.
This is a daily reckoning and a choice.
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Nehemiah, how is it you use such defamatory statements about me, when you have not once seen me preach anything but the true Gospel of Jesus Christ? Have I pointed to any other than Christ, in order to be saved? No. Have I made salvation a works-based pursuit? No. So then, how can you say I preach a false Gospel, when you have only seen me preach Christ and Him crucified as the Gospel? Please watch your words, and consider their implications.
If we're being honest here, I've never liked the way you misread people's intentions, and think you know their heart in matters. Especially when it comes to me, as you mischaracterize me and think there are ulterior motives. Even worse is that instead of keeping your opinion to yourself, you wish to air it out to the world and for all to see, not using sound judgement.
I am still learning, and I know to not think myself wise in my own understanding (something the Lord taught me). It isn't me being a know it all, its me operating in the gifts He has given me, and using them for the edification of all. How little you know me to think I don't look in a mirror and see flaws. The smallest of them sadden me.
As for my reputation, that is in the hands of those watching, those reading, and those we are to be a witness to. I'm not going to boast of my conduct, I will let it speak for itself.
You have this gripe against me, that you wish to somehow catch me in the act of passive aggressiveness. Is it because I once expressed it, what I saw, in you, and it was a righteous judgement? Do you wish to make me out to be a hypocrite? I think you have more important things to do.
The Lord lets me know when I have "crap" that needs addressing, He keeps me clean. He is my Teacher, so you don't have to express concern. He's got me.
I am still learning, and I know to not think myself wise in my own understanding (something the Lord taught me). It isn't me being a know it all, its me operating in the gifts He has given me, and using them for the edification of all. How little you know me to think I don't look in a mirror and see flaws. The smallest of them sadden me.
As for my reputation, that is in the hands of those watching, those reading, and those we are to be a witness to. I'm not going to boast of my conduct, I will let it speak for itself.
You have this gripe against me, that you wish to somehow catch me in the act of passive aggressiveness. Is it because I once expressed it, what I saw, in you, and it was a righteous judgement? Do you wish to make me out to be a hypocrite? I think you have more important things to do.
The Lord lets me know when I have "crap" that needs addressing, He keeps me clean. He is my Teacher, so you don't have to express concern. He's got me.
Just a heads up you can have both for about 20$
its all in one place ( book ) too .
Its not exhaustive still it’s has both .
If your looking to step it up you may want to try Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew/English lexicon for the OT and
Thayer’s Greek/English lexicon for the NT prices very on both . Both are free of commentary ,but have in-depth
definitions of the words and their usage. Both were recommended to me by a good friend. I will say those two books are not for just getting your feet wet . No you are in for a dunking.lol
Blessings
Bill
its all in one place ( book ) too .
Its not exhaustive still it’s has both .
If your looking to step it up you may want to try Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew/English lexicon for the OT and
Thayer’s Greek/English lexicon for the NT prices very on both . Both are free of commentary ,but have in-depth
definitions of the words and their usage. Both were recommended to me by a good friend. I will say those two books are not for just getting your feet wet . No you are in for a dunking.lol
Blessings
Bill
Is not faith an "escape from reality" in some respects? Does it not see the insurmountable odds, and yet still believe? Joanie certainly is on the right track, as she allows the Lord to guide and teach her. In fact, not only is it an escape from reality, it actually defines it through God's providence.
In the context of "healing is in the Atonement" this is what you said in post #183:
In other words, your Gospel includes physical healing along with the healing and salvation of the soul. But that is not the Gospel given to us in Scripture (1 Cor 15:1-4):
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [does not include sickness, disease, or disability]
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Since there is no mention of physical healing in this passage (or any other Gospel passage) would you not agree that you are presenting a false Gospel? So now you should make up your mind. It is either/or.
In other words, your Gospel includes physical healing along with the healing and salvation of the soul. But that is not the Gospel given to us in Scripture (1 Cor 15:1-4):
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [does not include sickness, disease, or disability]
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Since there is no mention of physical healing in this passage (or any other Gospel passage) would you not agree that you are presenting a false Gospel? So now you should make up your mind. It is either/or.
The Gospel is for the soul, but a fringe benefit of Christ's suffering is healing of the body. There is no contradiction here, no either or, necessary. The Gospel is to make those once dead in their trespasses, alive through Christ Jesus. So no, I do not preach a false Gospel, because there is one that is true. Christ and Him crucified.
Just a heads up you can have both for about 20$
its all in one place ( book ) too .
Its not exhaustive still it’s has both .
If your looking to step it up you may want to try Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew/English lexicon for the OT and
Thayer’s Greek/English lexicon for the NT prices very on both . Both are free of commentary ,but have in-depth
definitions of the words and their usage. Both were recommended to me by a good friend. I will say those two books are not for just getting your feet wet . No you are in for a dunking.lol
Blessings
Bill
its all in one place ( book ) too .
Its not exhaustive still it’s has both .
If your looking to step it up you may want to try Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew/English lexicon for the OT and
Thayer’s Greek/English lexicon for the NT prices very on both . Both are free of commentary ,but have in-depth
definitions of the words and their usage. Both were recommended to me by a good friend. I will say those two books are not for just getting your feet wet . No you are in for a dunking.lol
Blessings
Bill
Thank you Bill. I've always wanted a Vine's but after purchasing this Strong's book on Amazon I haven't gone back for more books yet. That place is amazing for new and used books. I didn't know they made a combo LOL. Will look into it so thank you again.