Are women allowed to Preach?

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miknik5

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Do you agree that JESUS’ temple is HIS body and that HE said those who are for HIM are not against HIM and that he who gathers does not scatter

Do you agree that it was JESUS desire to gather as many “as a mother hen gathers her chicks” as HE could?
 

miknik5

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According to the legal requirements of GOD’s WORD and LAW were those who were responsible to minister before GOD doing that?
 
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Do you agree that JESUS’ temple is HIS body and that HE said those who are for HIM are not against HIM and that he who gathers does not scatter

Do you agree that it was JESUS desire to gather as many “as a mother hen gathers her chicks” as HE could?
Yes, I will agree with all of that.
 
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According to the legal requirements of GOD’s WORD and LAW were those who were responsible to minister before GOD doing that?
Some were and many were not.
 

miknik5

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Some were and many were not.
None in that courtyard were sir because they negated haggai 2 and not only that the High Priests had distanced common unclean middle men handling the offerings thereby rendering the offerings for the sins of the people who depended on the High Priest as their link to GOD...,unclean blemished useless and unacceptable sacrifices to GOD for their sins

they weren’t doing the work of a priest before GOD they weren’t reconciling souls to GOD and their hearts were detached from the people and from their own stumbling errors in having common men stand in the courtyard in place of their being there crying out to GOD for the souls of all these who wanted to enter in
 

miknik5

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So if GOD pours out HIS SPIRIT on a female and she has entered into that ministry of reconciliation for the building up of HIS BODY can she preach THE GOSPEL?

abd can a brother make the right judgement if she is preceding THE GOSPEL?
 
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miknik5

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In haggai 2 GOD declares the high priests as unclean.
Hiw coukd they get around this?

There is only ONE who washes and makes clean what is unckesn


And these unbelieving Jews weren’t washed...yet
a d if they remained in their unbelief then they denied the very blessing prophecied so they remained in their sins and couldn’t offer any sacrifices acceptable to GOD

let alone appoint common middlemen to touch and handle and inspect the offerings thereby tainting the offerings
 
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None in that courtyard were sir because they negated haggai 2 and not only that the High Priests had distanced common unclean middle men handling the offerings thereby rendering the offerings for the sins of the people who depended on the High Priest as their link to GOD...,unclean blemished useless and unacceptable sacrifices to GOD for their sins

they weren’t doing the work of a priest before GOD they weren’t reconciling souls to GOD and their hearts were detached from the people and from their own stumbling errors in having common men stand in the courtyard in place of their being there crying out to GOD for the souls of all these who wanted to enter in
I agree that none "in that courtyard" were ministering correctly, however your question did not limit matters to the courtyard. Your question was more general, asking were there those who ministered correctly. Moses and many others ministered correctly, while many did not. My answer of "some did and some did not" included all that attempted to minister the gospel, not just those in that courtyard.

Not only were those men not ministering correctly but they also were introducing things within the church which have no belonging there. Such as the buying and selling of goods. They had turned the church into a "marketplace" and Jesus was having no part of it.
 

miknik5

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I agree that none "in that courtyard" were ministering correctly, however your question did not limit matters to the courtyard. Your question was more general, asking were there those who ministered correctly. Moses and many others ministered correctly, while many did not. My answer of "some did and some did not" included all that attempted to minister the gospel, not just those in that courtyard.

Not only were those men not ministering correctly but they also were introducing things within the church which have no belonging there. Such as the buying and selling of goods. They had turned the church into a "marketplace" and Jesus was having no part of it.
Haggai 2 was declared of all men sir

no man can get around it
and Moses knew there was one who would come whom GOD would require all men to listen to THAT ONE

Just as Deuteronomy 18 prophecied
 

miknik5

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Furthermore. JESUS cane into the world and that already is the judgement

If HE had not come we would have no sin but HE cane and there is only ONE GARMENT/VESTMENT/COVERING acceptable before the throne of GOD

Its HIS COVERING and HE alone covers/washes those who belong to HIM...

By HIS blood

That is all that we can bring before THE THRONE
GOD’s GRACE

Most clearly and visibly found in HIS SON
 
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So if GOD pours out HIS SPIRIT on a female and she has entered into that ministry of reconciliation for the building up of HIS BODY can she preach THE GOSPEL?

abd can a brother make the right judgement if she is preceding THE GOSPEL?
Absolutely a woman knowing of Christ can speak the gospel. She can bring many people unto the Lord, however she is to go by what God has asked of her if she truly wishes to serve Him. And He has very clearly stated she is not to preach to men inside of the church. She can preach unto women and children all she likes and she can pass along God's word unto men outside of the church. However, she is under specific command not to preach unto man inside of the church. God is the maker of that judgment as He did not leave it up to man nor woman to make this judgment. He made it Himself by inspiring Paul to say it and giving Paul the authority to say it.
 
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In haggai 2 GOD declares the high priests as unclean.
Hiw coukd they get around this?

There is only ONE who washes and makes clean what is unckesn


And these unbelieving Jews weren’t washed...yet
a d if they remained in their unbelief then they denied the very blessing prophecied so they remained in their sins and couldn’t offer any sacrifices acceptable to GOD

let alone appoint common middlemen to touch and handle and inspect the offerings thereby tainting the offerings
A high priest or anyone else can get around being unclean by doing and teaching exactly what God has told them.
 

miknik5

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Absolutely a woman knowing of Christ can speak the gospel. She can bring many people unto the Lord, however she is to go by what God has asked of her if she truly wishes to serve Him. And He has very clearly stated she is not to preach to men inside of the church. She can preach unto women and children all she likes and she can pass along God's word unto men outside of the church. However, she is under specific command not to preach unto man inside of the church. God is the maker of that judgment as He did not leave it up to man nor woman to make this judgment. He made it Himself by inspiring Paul to say it and giving Paul the authority to say it.
What will you do if you see a woman preaching the truth of JESUS inside the visible structure of the church?

remember:
order in the BODY so as not to misrepresent HIS NAME is highest priority


Just as Paul understood
 

miknik5

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A high priest or anyone else can get around being unclean by doing and teaching exactly what God has told them.
Not unless JESUS washes him FIRST
And if HE doesn’t...just as JESUS said:


he has no part with HIM

(I believe you’ll find that in John 13)
 
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Haggai 2 was declared of all men sir

no man can get around it
and Moses knew there was one who would come whom GOD would require all men to listen to THAT ONE

Just as Deuteronomy 18 prophecied
Are you declaring that Moses was not a man of God who commanded great admiration from God ? Are you presenting that God was very displeased with Moses ?. Is that why God actually changed His mind when speaking to Moses about killing the Jews when Moses asked Him to reconsider ?
 

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An argument to be answered by the Almighty...but I will go where the Lord leads and do what He asks of me. Whether it's teaching, preachin, or testifying to the multitudes...His will be done...
 
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miknik5

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Absolutely a woman knowing of Christ can speak the gospel. She can bring many people unto the Lord, however she is to go by what God has asked of her if she truly wishes to serve Him. And He has very clearly stated she is not to preach to men inside of the church. She can preach unto women and children all she likes and she can pass along God's word unto men outside of the church. However, she is under specific command not to preach unto man inside of the church. God is the maker of that judgment as He did not leave it up to man nor woman to make this judgment. He made it Himself by inspiring Paul to say it and giving Paul the authority to say it.
A woman knowing of CHRIST?

what exactly do you mean by this statement?
 
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What will you do if you see a woman preaching the truth of JESUS inside the visible structure of the church?

remember:
order in the BODY so as not to misrepresent HIS NAME is highest priority


Just as Paul understood
What I will do is to leave that church. Because I cannot trust any woman to give me truth that has already broken God's commands. She broke God's orders the second she began to minister to men inside the church. Therefore anything she says afterward cannot be trusted.
 

miknik5

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Are you declaring that Moses was not a man of God who commanded great admiration from God ? Are you presenting that God was very displeased with Moses ?. Is that why God actually changed His mind when speaking to Moses about killing the Jews when Moses asked Him to reconsider ?
Are you saying that Moses is in line to Jesus?
Moses will tell you differently