gall bladder flush

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Enoch987

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When I was thirty, I tried this but no gall stones came out but I did have a bowel movement which was welcome since I had constipation but that was what Epson Salts have been used for as shown by the advertisement on the package of Epson Salts.
When I was 59, I tried it again even though I had no symptoms but gall stones did come out.
gall stones look like peas unless they are older, then they are brown or black.
They are pliable.

the procedure.
eat no fat for breakfast or lunch.
Mix 5 teaspoons of Epson salts with 5 cups of water.
drink 1 cup at 2 pm, 1 cup at 5 pm and 1 cup at 8 pm
you won't feel hungry for supper because you will feel nauseous.
The nausea is manageable. I didn't get sick.
at 9:30 pm, get ready for bed.
drink a quarter cup of extra virgin olive oil interspersed with the juice from a raw grapefruit.
The grapefruit juice makes the olive oil more liquid and easier to absorb.
You might be able to use flax oil or primrose oil or even butter but the procedure calls for extra virgin olive oil which is more pure than Pure Olive Oil. I used Pure Olive Oil when I was thirty and it made me feel more nauseous than when I used Extra Virgin Olive Oil when I was 59.
The Epson Salts open up the bile ducts.
Not eating fat for breakfast and lunch lets the body store the bile so after the bile ducts are opened, the bile will flush out the stones when the oil is consumed.
Go to be immediately. Lay on your right side which is the side where your gall bladder is.
Wake up at 6 am. drink a cup of water mixed with Epson salts.
Go back to bed. Lay on your right side.
drink the last cup of water mixed with Epson salts at 8 am.
You can get up now.
The next 24 hours are spent passing gall stones.
You will feel less nauseous as the day continues.
Eat when you are hungry.
This procedure can be found on the internet. Search for gall bladder cleanse.
A few weeks later, I tried the procedure again to flush stones that might have descended from the liver.
I got a few brown stones.
Remember, I did not have symptoms of having gall stones.
 

tourist

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Let the one that is without sin cast the first stone.
 

blue_ladybug

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Baloney. Gall stones and kidney usually ALWAYS hurt very much when they travel on their way from the gallbladder/kidneys to the urethra where they pass. I know, I passed a kidney stone not very long ago, and the only symptom I had, was an uncomfortable pain in my side as it traveled on to pass, and I literally felt like I had to pee 24-7...

Salt is what forms most of them. So TAKING salt is the LAST thing anyone should do to get rid of them..
 

Enoch987

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Baloney. Gall stones and kidney usually ALWAYS hurt very much when they travel on their way from the gallbladder/kidneys to the urethra where they pass. I know, I passed a kidney stone not very long ago, and the only symptom I had, was an uncomfortable pain in my side as it traveled on to pass, and I literally felt like I had to pee 24-7...

Salt is what forms most of them. So TAKING salt is the LAST thing anyone should do to get rid of them..
Gall stones are stored in the gall bladder. Kidney stones are in the kidney. The gall bladder stores bile which comes from the liver and is stored in the gall bladder so the liver doesn't have to try to produce lots of bile at one time to digest fats.
I have heard parsley tea is good for kidney stones. Gall stones are passed through the intestines/colon not the urethra.
When the gall bladder is removed, people have trouble digesting fats.
 

hornetguy

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Gall stones are stored in the gall bladder. Kidney stones are in the kidney. The gall bladder stores bile which comes from the liver and is stored in the gall bladder so the liver doesn't have to try to produce lots of bile at one time to digest fats.
I have heard parsley tea is good for kidney stones. Gall stones are passed through the intestines/colon not the urethra.
When the gall bladder is removed, people have trouble digesting fats.
Yes... gall stones, if passed, would pass into the small intestine. I can't imagine anyone knowing they had "passed" a gall stone.

My surgeon told me (yesterday, actually) that many/most people will have no problems continuing on with a "normal" diet after removal of their gall bladder... but should probably avoid overloading on fatty foods... which we probably should all be doing, anyway.

She said that the liver will usually compensate for the missing "storage container" to the extent that it really doesn't affect your digestion much, if any.

Yes, I am about to have my gall bladder removed... preventive. I have either one large gall stone, or several smaller ones. In my consultation yesterday, every time I would mention a pain, or a condition, she would smile and nod... I asked her what she was smiling about, and she just said that everything I described was a classic, common symptom of gall bladder problems. Removing it before it blocks a bile duct is much better than waiting until it's an emergency situation.
 

Enoch987

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Yes... gall stones, if passed, would pass into the small intestine. I can't imagine anyone knowing they had "passed" a gall stone.

My surgeon told me (yesterday, actually) that many/most people will have no problems continuing on with a "normal" diet after removal of their gall bladder... but should probably avoid overloading on fatty foods... which we probably should all be doing, anyway.

She said that the liver will usually compensate for the missing "storage container" to the extent that it really doesn't affect your digestion much, if any.

Yes, I am about to have my gall bladder removed... preventive. I have either one large gall stone, or several smaller ones. In my consultation yesterday, every time I would mention a pain, or a condition, she would smile and nod... I asked her what she was smiling about, and she just said that everything I described was a classic, common symptom of gall bladder problems. Removing it before it blocks a bile duct is much better than waiting until it's an emergency situation.
So you'd rather trust your doctor and go through surgery rather than try the Epson salts plus water and olive oil plus raw grapefruit juice followed by more Epson salts plus water and put up with the feeling of nausea with the next 24 hours spent passing gall stones.
 

hornetguy

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So you'd rather trust your doctor and go through surgery rather than try the Epson salts plus water and olive oil plus raw grapefruit juice followed by more Epson salts plus water and put up with the feeling of nausea with the next 24 hours spent passing gall stones.
Yes... that is what I'm saying.

A quote from the website about gall bladder flushes....

To ensure a free flow of bile, both into and out of the gallbladder, you should clean this organ out with a gallbladder flush. It's simple to perform, but if you have a history of gallstones or other gallbladder issues, I suggest you check with your doctor first to rule out the possibility that you have any large calcified gallstones that might not be able to pass through the bile duct during the flush.
If you read my previous post, I said that I either had one large gall stone (original diagnosis from PET scan, from an oncologist that reads PET scans on a daily basis) or several smaller ones (opinion of ultra sound tech as a "possibility")
 
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Yes... gall stones, if passed, would pass into the small intestine. I can't imagine anyone knowing they had "passed" a gall stone.

My surgeon told me (yesterday, actually) that many/most people will have no problems continuing on with a "normal" diet after removal of their gall bladder... but should probably avoid overloading on fatty foods... which we probably should all be doing, anyway.

She said that the liver will usually compensate for the missing "storage container" to the extent that it really doesn't affect your digestion much, if any.

Yes, I am about to have my gall bladder removed... preventive. I have either one large gall stone, or several smaller ones. In my consultation yesterday, every time I would mention a pain, or a condition, she would smile and nod... I asked her what she was smiling about, and she just said that everything I described was a classic, common symptom of gall bladder problems. Removing it before it blocks a bile duct is much better than waiting until it's an emergency situation.
Bile is used to emulsify fat in your diet. The gallbladder stores it to release as need. And yes without it your diet is affected, unless you don't use grease, including nuts.

They can suck out the can suck out the gallstones without removing the gall bladder. Something they don't like telling people. Less invasive and your gall bladder remains.
 
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'BACK TO EDEN' by Jethro Kloss-page. 432-433" - orginal copywrite, 1939.

Last paragraph :
"Dr. Lee, one the NYC great physicians, said that if the people would stop eating 'acid-forming foods'
and eat ALKALINE foods, any case of 'gallstones' could be cured.

Dr. Clark, of Chicago, once said to me, that any case of 'gallstones, appendicitis, tonsillitis, piles,
and hemorrhoids could be cured 'without the knife'. That is in harmony with BiBle Doctrine,
that God has a remedy for every ill of man and operations would be rarely needed.
This has been my experience for years."
 
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Enoch987

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I needed to think about hornetguy's response for a time. Then I remembered a popular radio host who has a natural health advertiser that convinced him to do a gall bladder flush. The natural health practioner either forgot or didn't emphasize the need to drink the Epson salt mixture to open the bile ducts so the talk show host had drunk the extra virgin olive oil but no gall stones came out and the host felt no discomfort. The practioner sent capsules containing Epson salts to the host by overnight shipping (I assume) so there was a time for waiting with the gall stones ready to come out after the bile ducts opened. After taking the Epsom salts, the gall stones came out.
The point from one person's experience is the stones won't come out if the ducts are too small and in this one person's experience, it didn't cause any problems. The talk show host was glad to get the stones out as he had many tan and a few black stones (green are recent stones, black stones mean they have been formed years ago) even though he didn't have any symptoms of needing his gall bladder removed like hornetguy is having.
hornetguy's doctor's advice that people that have had their gall bladder removed shouldn't eat much fat because American's eat too much fat sounds like the vestigial organ argument. (Some organs are unnecessary.)
Doctor's used to remove tonsils from children when they got infected.
My gall stones were green and a few were tan. I didn't not have black stones.
The green and tan stones were soft and squishy, not hard.
Dr. Group of Global Healing Center sells herbs that will prepare the liver/gall bladder for the gall bladder flush procedure which are available from the store at the infowars.com website.
 

hornetguy

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As a follow up... I just got home from my surgery. I had to stay an extra night because of some concerns about an irregular heartbeat.... but, the surgeon took pictures of my gallbladder, and had cut it open to reveal the contents. I had one large stone that measured almost 1 3/4" across. The rest of my gallbladder was full of smaller stones, approximately 3/8" in diameter.

I could post pictures if it wouldn't gross everyone out.

A gallbladder flush would not have worked for me. It very likely would have cause a duct blockage with resultant problems, including the necessity of emergency surgery.

Pre-emptive surgery was unquestionably the correct route for me.
 
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My medicine makes my stool more dense. I have to talk to my doctor about it.
 
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wow Horn, your took the 'bait' hook-line-and-sinker!

not trying to say that you are different, but most folks these days, leading up to now,
'believe' everything that the pharmikia tell you what your 'only option is, thus your are not
aware of alternative 'cures' that nature provides...it's one of the most difficult things
in most peoples lives, evolving into these present times -

ISA.
58:8.
Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily:
and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.

these words are beyond belief!!!

take your authority, and become the master of your Temple... we're speaking to ALL of our
B&S in Christ...
 
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Angela53510

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I was in constant pain from my gallbladder, but I only had 2 severe attacks. But it hurt 24/7. When I got to the hospital they did an ultra sound, and couldn’t find any stones, just some sand on the bottom of my gall bladder. I said I don’t care, just take it out.

When I woke up after surgery in the recovery room, I had stopped hurting. The surgery did not even hurt, and I tried to refuse the pain meds they injected, because I was in no pain. I continued to feel no pain, and to refuse the pain meds, because I didn’t need them, which upset the nurses to no end.

The next day, my surgeon came for a visit, with med students, residents and his whole surgical team. I was a little stunned. The doctor said a large cyst had taken over my gall bladder, which couldn’t be seen on the ultra-sound. He said he had taken out 20,000 gallbladders, and he had never seen one filled with a cyst like that. He wanted his surgical staff to meet the woman with a cyst.

So, I guess the cyst is what was hurting me. All, the Epsom salts in the world wouldn’t have fixed me!

But the most interesting thing, was I got to know my roomate. I was sharing Jesus, and I had a booklet on the plan of salvation. She read it, we talked about what it meant personally to her, and she committed her life to Christ. We exchanged addresses, and a few months later I got a thank you card from her. She said her whole life had changed since that day in the hospital, she was reading the Bible, going to church, sharing the gospel with others, and had a joy and a peace she had never known.

So, sometimes God’s plan is the important one. I am so glad I had that surgery, because the pain is gone. And God added another soul to the kingdom. By the way, I have no problem with eat fats, although I do not eat a lot of fat, just as a personal preference. I prefer fresh veggies and fruits, nuts and food that is as close to the form God made it. As opposed to processed, deep fried, factory made food, so that may be part of the reason I have not been troubled from losing my gall bladder.l
 

hornetguy

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wow Horn, your took the 'bait' hook-line-and-sinker!

not trying to say that you are different, but most folks these days, leading up to now,
'believe' everything that the pharmikia tell you what your 'only option is, thus your are not
aware of alternative 'cures' that nature provides...it's one of the most difficult things
in most peoples lives, evolving into these present times -

ISA.
58:8.
Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily:
and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.

these words are beyond belief!!!

take your authority, and become the master of your Temple... we're speaking to ALL of our
B&S in Christ...
I don't guess I understand what you are saying... are you saying that even with one gallstone that completely blocked the bile duct, and 20-30 other various sized smaller stones, that I should have tried a gall bladder flush?
The large stone was as big in diameter as my whole gall bladder. The bladder was full the rest of the way with the other stones.

You do know that God has allowed medical knowledge to progress to the point where they can fix things that normally, in the old days, would have likely killed us?

My situation would very likely have progressed rapidly to the point of needing emergency surgery... large, belly open incision, and removal of gall bladder and attempt at repair of any damage caused to liver or small intestine. I was already in daily pain from the gallstones, which meant the situation was deteriorating. Preventive surgery was the best choice for me.
 
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Angel,
awesome witness sister!

yes, horn, I am saying this!
the results of the Faith that our Lord Jesus Christ has taught us through these many years -
and our own personal proof and witness, and we have many that most would never believe...

I would be an 'emergency-room junkie', if it were not for hub's and mine's continual Faith, when
'something' always tries to destroy us and take away our health and FAITH that Christ has
blessed us with, we USE it and never abuse it...
 
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hornetguy

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Angel,
awesome witness sister!

yes, horn, I am saying this!
the results of the Faith that our Lord Jesus Christ has taught us through these many years -
and our own personal proof and witness, and we have many that most would never believe...

I would be an 'emergency-room junkie', if it were not for hub's and mine's continual Faith, when
'something' always tries to destroy us and take away our health and FAITH that Christ has
blessed us with, we USE it and never abuse it...
No problem... you have your beliefs, and I have mine. I imagine we are a lot closer than you think. If I have a choice, I will choose whole, natural foods every time. I detest processed foods, and "junk" food. I have been to an emergency room only once in the past 35 years (at least)... for an irregular (skipping) heartbeat, and at my wife's insistence, about 15 years ago.

This gallbladder surgery was the first surgery I've ever had, unless you count having my two wisdom teeth removed by an oral surgeon about 40 years ago.

I trust that God has taken care of me, and given my wife and me good health... I also believe that there are times that we have to rely on the ability of good doctors to fix issues that would otherwise likely end our lives.

Relying on a "poultice" when an amputation is required is simply foolhardy, IMO.

Reminds me of the old joke about the guy sitting on his rooftop in a flood, waiting for God to come save him. Three different people came by in boats and in a helicopter, offering to rescue him, and he refused... waiting for God. When the flood waters rose high enough, he drowned. When he got to heaven, he asked God why He hadn't rescued him... God told him, "well, I sent three different people to save you, but you refused!"
 
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Miri

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I know a few people with gall stones, who had them treated by
sonic shock waves to break them up. Not sure what the criteria is for this
kind of treatment.

Oh and apparently rapid weight loss on a low fat diet can cause gallstones to
grow. (I wouldn’t mind losing a stone or two mind you).

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gallstones/treatment/