Jesus did much more than just die that God cannot do. Jesus was tempted in ALL ways just like we are. God cannot be tempted. God cannot get hungry, God cannot fear, ect.... You do not only deny His deity claiming He was not the Father incarnate you also deny His humanity. WOW!!!! you are very confused
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More likely the excommunicated reprobate heretic's mouth will be shut when His patience runs out. Not the authentic historically accurate Christian. Foxes Book of Martyrs is full of people who willingly gave up their lives for the Gospel. Some very bravely others even cheerfully. Jesus was sweating blood in the garden not because he would have to physically die but because He was to take the sin of humanity upon himself.
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Good point. I don't either. I refute the heresy, exhort the truth, and pray for and correct the heretic, with love, even when I see the clear signs of reprobation present. I cannot and do not condemn anyone. It's not for me to do that. That's between them and God. I just refute heresy, present the truth, and strive for accuracy. I believe God loves everyone... including those caught in heresy.
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Calling a heretic who is preaching an excommunicated heresy that is perfectly refutable a heretic is like calling an apple an apple. It's an accurate statement. That doesn't mean God doesn't love them and they can't abandon their heresy for sound doctrine. We pray that is what happens. So we see the label can be accurate and the heretic in need of correction and restoration. It's really that simple. God loves the heretic, the sinner, and the saved. Everyone should abandon heresy, especially if they are incurring judgment by leading others astray, and enter sound doctrine. That's what God wants and what we want. Yet the heretic resists.
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God= the creator of the universe ... Jesus= our sacrifice and our mediator .... The Holy Ghost= the understanding of God
WE NEED ALL THREE
Isa. 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
WE NEED ALL THREE
Isa. 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
What if a person is called a heretic but is following what is actually written in the Bible? I have been called a heretic and told I have no true Christianity because I do not believe Christ is God Himself. The Bible says
If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God. 1John4:15 It does not say. If we believe Christ is God Himself God lives in us.
I don't wish to start another prolonged debate on this, but am simply using this as an example. But some Christians are calling other Christians heretics when scripturally their belief according to the Bible is perfectly true for a sincere Christianity.
If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God. 1John4:15 It does not say. If we believe Christ is God Himself God lives in us.
I don't wish to start another prolonged debate on this, but am simply using this as an example. But some Christians are calling other Christians heretics when scripturally their belief according to the Bible is perfectly true for a sincere Christianity.
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Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
We are images of God, Jesus being the express image that the great Spirit of God expresses Himself in fully. The Father is Spirit, Jesus is not the Father, but the physical image set forth in the decree in Genesis.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
We are images of God, Jesus being the express image that the great Spirit of God expresses Himself in fully. The Father is Spirit, Jesus is not the Father, but the physical image set forth in the decree in Genesis.
Hi AOK
Though we may not agree on some things I enjoy reading your comments. You make your points very well.
I would say then that anyone who insists someone must say Jesus is God Himself for a true Christianity would be in far greater danger scripturally of Heresy than someone who would not believe that, strictly according to what is written in the Bible
Though we may not agree on some things I enjoy reading your comments. You make your points very well.
I would say then that anyone who insists someone must say Jesus is God Himself for a true Christianity would be in far greater danger scripturally of Heresy than someone who would not believe that, strictly according to what is written in the Bible
Originally Posted by forerunner
Jesus did much more than just die that God cannot do. Jesus was tempted in ALL ways just like we are. God cannot be tempted. God cannot get hungry, God cannot fear, ect.... You do not only deny His deity claiming He was not the Father incarnate you also deny His humanity. WOW!!!! you are very confused
Jesus did much more than just die that God cannot do. Jesus was tempted in ALL ways just like we are. God cannot be tempted. God cannot get hungry, God cannot fear, ect.... You do not only deny His deity claiming He was not the Father incarnate you also deny His humanity. WOW!!!! you are very confused
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
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There are all levels of Christians, some young and some old; some smart and some not so smart. Denominations are all man made things and some denominations get carried away with their own personal beliefs. Jesus wants us all to be one minded with him as he is with God and not a denomination. (One minded… Not God) New Christians seem to want to show the world what they know as fact and they read a translation and not the Bible. I turned my life around with the KJV years and years ago. But anyone should stop and think that 47 men from England who lived almost 500 years ago would not be able to make a perfect translation of the entire Bible. What gets me are people who CHOSE to accept the bad translation ABOVE the good translation There is something wrong with that picture. I have tried to get the people who think that Jesus is God to look up the verses in the concordance and see what words were added by the translators and what words are in the Hebrew and Greek. If those people would do that, they would see that the intent is changed by the English words that were added by the translators. Then look up the scriptures that say Jesus was the son of God, our mediator and our sacrifice and that God GIVE him his power and eternal life. They will find that those verses were not altered by the English translation and their intent is in the Greek text and not in the English words. See what the writers of the Bible said, and not what a bunch of translators THOUGHT they said.
Even though we have young Christians that want to preach before they study, we still can say that we all agree that God raised the Lamb of God, Jesus, (Our Sacrifice) from the dead and give him eternal life and made him our mediator between man and God… and THOSE THINGS are what make us Christians. The antichrist does not have a sacrifice for their sins. If they do not accept Jesus, they will have to pay for their own sins in eternal hell fire.
Even though we have young Christians that want to preach before they study, we still can say that we all agree that God raised the Lamb of God, Jesus, (Our Sacrifice) from the dead and give him eternal life and made him our mediator between man and God… and THOSE THINGS are what make us Christians. The antichrist does not have a sacrifice for their sins. If they do not accept Jesus, they will have to pay for their own sins in eternal hell fire.
We also have Old Christian who want to preach without much study either.... in fact many have reached a ripe old age without learning the great treasures in scripture but have stayed on milk all their lives. Don't take that as directed at yourself Dusty, its just a general observation here and in real life.
Age does not always bring wisdom.
Blessings
Phil