Are women allowed to Preach?

[Incognito]

God is ruling in my heart just fine Auntie. That is why I'm going to go ahead and let you and your friends have your earthly opinions and not attempt to give you any more truth on the subject of women preaching inside the church unto men. The scripture is extremely clear about this. However, for those of you who wish to disregard the scripture that is your choice.

All anyone has to do is to go back and actually read this thread and the truth of where the childish antics came from will be rather obvious to them. You even just admitted to it yourself, and at the same time you continue more blaming of others. That is why God was giving you no peace Auntie. Because you didn't like the truth of scripture given to you and you then resorted to childish and angry insults, just as several of your friends have done.

I'm prepared to let the subject rest now. Truth has been told. Whether people choose to believe it or not is up to them.

You can't back up ANYTHING you said about NO WOMEN PREACHERS with the Word of God for GOD is no respecter of persons and women are "persons!"

 

[FamousBlueRaincoat]

So, you consider the fact that the Bible is "true" just to be an idea, do you ? If you don't consider scripture to be true, then why do you ever read it ? Do you consider the Bible to be "true" or "false" ? If you consider it true, then you will agree with him. And if you consider it false, then why do you pretend to trust it ? He told you the Bible is true and you would be wise to believe it.

What? You aren't making any sense, you are just putting words in my mouth.

 

[trofimus]

What if my wife was saved years before me and has more Biblical knowledge than I do? I can't ask her a question because she is a woman? I should pretend to teach her something I have not researched myself?

Paul clearly says that wives must be submitted even to unbelieving husbands, so your example will not work.

Of course, if a man willfully gives her wife a credit to teach him what she knows better, its OK. But there is no such rule...

 

[garee]

If a wife must be submitted to her husband, how can she be his leader, teacher and pastor?

I would offer its more a mutual submission like the Father and Son .It's that kind of image mankind was created in respect to.

The father is greater in resect to a position but never the person .God is one. Mankind alone was created as one creation.

When men and woman gather together in ceremonies used as shadows involving more than one family. The head is Christ, no physical head as that seen .Then man and woman participate equally. Not as before the reformation when woman was not permitted to be a part of the ceremonies. Its not about flesh and blood, male or female, Jew nor Gentile

 

[preacher4truth]

You can't back up ANYTHING you said about NO WOMEN PREACHERS with the Word of God for GOD is no respecter of persons and women are "persons!"

The texts concerning no respecter of persons has no relation to the issue of women preachers. You're using the Word out of context. 2 Timothy 2:15?

 

[Incognito]

Paul clearly says that wives must be submitted even to unbelieving husbands, so your example will not work.

Of course, if a man willfully gives her wife a credit to teach him what she knows better, its OK. But there is no such rule...

Where does Paul say "wives must be submitted even to unbelieving husbands" in Scripture?

When you CARNAL MEN get the physical bodies of women mixed up with Spiritual things you sound "FOOLISH" (I Cor 2:14)!

"There is neither male nor female *IN* Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28). Do you know what that means? IN THE SPIRIT! CHRIST JESUS *IS* SPIRIT!

 

[Incognito]

The texts concerning no respecter of persons has no relation to the issue of women preachers. You're using the Word out of context. 2 Timothy 2:15?

GOD IS SPIRIT (John 4:24) and that's ALL HE CARES ABOUT! You unfilled with THE SPIRIT men are concerned about a dress tail and NOT GOD! There is no respecter of persons IN THE SPIRIT!

"There is NEITHER male nor female *IN* Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28). Do you know what that means? IN THE SPIRIT!

JESUS CHRIST *IS* SPIRIT!

The Gospel of Christ is The Gospel of SPIRIT!

Christ is in heaven and there's no "flesh and blood" in heaven" (I Corinthians 15:50)!

SPIRIT!

 

[trofimus]

I would offer its more a mutual submission like the Father and Son .It's that kind of image mankind was created in respect to.

I cannot remember even one example of Father being submitted to Son... do you have some?

 

[trofimus]

Where does Paul say "wives must be submitted even to unbelieving husbands" in Scripture?

OK, sorry, it was Peter, not Paul.

"Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives."
1Peter 3:1

 

[preacher4truth]

GOD IS SPIRIT (John 4:24) and that's ALL HE CARES ABOUT! You unfilled with THE SPIRIT men are concerned about a dress tail and NOT GOD! There is no respecter of persons IN THE SPIRIT!

"There is NEITHER male nor female *IN* Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28). Do you know what that means? IN THE SPIRIT!

JESUS CHRIST *IS* SPIRIT!

The Gospel of Christ is The Gospel of SPIRIT!

Christ is in heaven and there's no "flesh and blood" in heaven" (I Corinthians 15:50)!

SPIRIT!

You're just misusing more texts above especially in Galatians.

You're pretending your misuse pits against Gods decreed roles in Scripture, or, you're just ignorant of context, or both.

 

[trofimus]

I cannot remember even one example of Father being submitted to Son... do you have some?

Translated to English: I cannot recall any example of...

 

[Incognito]

The texts concerning no respecter of persons has no relation to the issue of women preachers. You're using the Word out of context. 2 Timothy 2:15?

See you love Spurgeon more than God because you can't PROVE with WORD where GOD SAID IT can you? COWARD!
If GOD SAYS HE has "NO respect of persons" you are IGNORANT to call HIM "A LIAR!"

 

[Incognito]

Translated to English: I cannot recall any example of...

How can HE be in submission to SELF for HE is "ONE SELFSAME SPIRIT" (I Corinthians 12:11-12) yet manifests in "MANY" ROLES!

There is but ONE GOD!

Not a BIG DADDY FATHER with a Little Son Jesus!

 

[Incognito]

You're just misusing more texts above especially in Galatians.

You're pretending your misuse pits against Gods decreed roles in Scripture, or, you're just ignorant of context, or both.

GOD "DOESN'T FIT INTO *YOUR* "RELIGIOUSLY CORRECT" DOCTRINE DOES HE?

SELF RIGHTEOUS "COWARD" (Spurgeon)!

GOD SAID "There is neither male nor female *IN* Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28) but you don't know anything about being "IN* Christ Jesus and can only see a "dress tail!"

 

[Incognito]

OK, sorry, it was Peter, not Paul.

"Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives."
1Peter 3:1

"behavior?"

Sure isn't talking SPIRITUAL!

GOD "works in us" (Phil 2:13) causing manifestation of actions but when "a woman" BEHAVES, that's HER actions.

You all don't know ANYTHING about "the operation of God" and look at Scripture like a man (I Cor 2:14) instead of what you are; a spirit!

 

[Incognito]

The texts concerning no respecter of persons has no relation to the issue of women preachers. You're using the Word out of context. 2 Timothy 2:15?

Cause you looking at a "dress tail!"

 

[FamousBlueRaincoat]

How can HE be in submission to SELF for HE is "ONE SELFSAME SPIRIT" (I Corinthians 12:11-12) yet manifests in "MANY" ROLES!

There is but ONE GOD!

Not a BIG DADDY FATHER with a Little Son Jesus!

At the moment you are making quite a good case for the idea of keeping women silent

 

[trofimus]

How can HE be in submission to SELF for HE is "ONE SELFSAME SPIRIT" (I Corinthians 12:11-12) yet manifests in "MANY" ROLES!

There is but ONE GOD!

Not a BIG DADDY FATHER with a Little Son Jesus!

I do not know what belief do you have, but in Christianity, we believe in Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, three persons, not just roles.

 

[trofimus]

"behavior?"

Sure isn't talking SPIRITUAL!

GOD "works in us" (Phil 2:13) causing manifestation of actions but when "a woman" BEHAVES, that's HER actions.

You all don't know ANYTHING about "the operation of God" and look at Scripture like a man (I Cor 2:14) instead of what you are; a spirit!

I am not sure what you are trying to say, but it does not change anything on the verse of Peter, saying that women should be submitted to husbands, even to unbelieving ones.

 

[AuntieAnt]

I think it exalts Jesus and the Father quite a bit when I stand up and deliver scripture "exactly as it is written". It is not those who follow the scripture exactly that are relying on their own understanding.

Paul clearly says that wives must be submitted even to unbelieving husbands....

The texts concerning no respecter of persons has no relation to the issue of women preachers. You're using the Word out of context. 2 Timothy 2:15?

You men seem to have great faith in your beliefs. Can any of you answer these spiritual questions?

"Let US make man is OUR own image.”

Question 1.) Who was God talking to?

If God created man in His own image in the beginning,

Question 2.) Did man ever stop being in God’s image?

"Male and female created He them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created."

Question 3.) Who were the plural Adam's?

Jesus said, "Don't act out in anger, turn the other cheek, submit one to another, deny yourself, humble yourself, love your enemies, do not be bitter, do not be jealous of your neighbor, don't lust."

Question 4.) Are you submitting to Christ right now?

If Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, if His blood covers every sin anyone committed...

Question 5.) Who is going to hell?

Question 6.) Are you going to hell?