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Read the Bible and talk to God privately everyday.
 
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Want to improve myself.
Have you ever improved yourself to the good effectively?

If you think about that question and are honest, the answer is NO.

So, since improving yourself to the good hasn't worked so far, (and it hasn't worked for anyone ever), then the next thought is, "Who can improve me?"

The answer to that one is the God the Bible is all about. So, if you want to improve, seek that one and only God, and let him work you out to good.
 
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Have you ever improved yourself to the good effectively?

If you think about that question and are honest, the answer is NO.

So, since improving yourself to the good hasn't worked so far, (and it hasn't worked for anyone ever), then the next thought is, "Who can improve me?"

The answer to that one is the God the Bible is all about. So, if you want to improve, seek that one and only God, and let him work you out to good.
Your half correct, what I mean is you can read the bible or even hear God's in your thoughts, but God is not going to do it for you, you have to apply it, thus hear the word improve yourself by applying the word in your life.
 

jameen

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If you want to improve yourself, you must not live by the works of the flesh as mentioned in Galatians 5:19-21.

You must deny yourself as mentioned in Luke 9:23.

And you must always read, contemplate and live by the Words of God in the Bible.
 
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If you want to improve yourself, you must not live by the works of the flesh as mentioned in Galatians 5:19-21.

You must deny yourself as mentioned in Luke 9:23.

And you must always read, contemplate and live by the Words of God in the Bible.
good post I like that, indeed deny yourself to improve yourself.

the word yourself I think gets folks thinking the word is wrong to do or can't be done, but that is not always the case as in love others as you love yourself.
 
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Some self improvement verses...

Philippians 4:13

I can do all things through him who strengthens me.

1 Corinthians 10:13

No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.

1 Samuel 16:7

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”

1 Peter 5:7

Casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.

Romans 8:28

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.

Luke 1:37

For nothing will be impossible with God.”

Matthew 6:33

But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

Galatians 2:20

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

1 John 4:18

There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.

Matthew 5:16

In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

Ephesians 6:11

Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.

2 Corinthians 5:17

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

Romans 3:23

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Romans 10:9

Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

1 John 1:9

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Psalm 119:105

Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.

2 Timothy 1:12

Which is why I suffer as I do. But I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed, and I am convinced that he is able to guard until that Day what has been entrusted to me.

John 3:16

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

2 Timothy 3:16

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

1 Thessalonians 5:17

Pray without ceasing,

Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

2 Peter 3:9

The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

1 John 4:19

We love because he first loved us.

John 1:12

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,

Mark 16:16

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Romans 6:1-23

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. ...

Acts 8:22

Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you.

Joshua 1:8

This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

1 Corinthians 6:19

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,

Acts 11:26

And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.

Matthew 6:12

And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.

1 Peter 1:22

Having purified your souls by your obedience to the truth for a sincere brotherly love, love one another earnestly from a pure heart,

Ephesians 4:23

And to be renewed in the spirit of your minds,

Ephesians 4:22-24

To put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.

Matthew 7:21

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

2 Peter 3:18

But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

2 Timothy 3:16-17

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

Proverbs 30:5

Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.

Revelation 1:1

The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,

2 Timothy 1:7

For God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.

Ephesians 6:17

And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,

Acts 22:16

And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.’

Matthew 16:24

Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

Matthew 22:37-40

And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

Jeremiah 17:9

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

2 Peter 1:3

His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to his own glory and excellence,

1 Timothy 5:8

But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

2 Thessalonians 1:3

We ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers, as is right, because your faith is growing abundantly, and the love of every one of you for one another is increasing.

2 Corinthians 13:5

Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test!

2 Corinthians 9:10

He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.

1 Corinthians 10:24

Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

Romans 12:10

Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor.
 
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To grow in grace and in the knowledge of Lord Jesus Christ is called sanctification. Romans 4:5 makes it crystal clear that God only awards righteousness to a Believer when their Faith, the size of a mustard seed, is placed and maintained exclusively in His Son Jesus (who He is) and the Cross of Christ, i.e., "The Finished Work," i.e., "The Blood of Jesus" (what He has done). If this is done, the Holy Spirit will take over and do everything that must be done in the Believers life. This is called the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2).
 
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God has chosen to operate His work from the basis of faith. "The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" (Romans 8:2) is God's prescribed order of victory for the Believer over sin, the world, the flesh, and the Devil. This means that the Believer must place and maintain proper Faith the size of a mustard seed exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary, i.e., The Finished Work, i.e., The Blood of Jesus, where the victory was won so that Jesus life would be lived through you. This gives the Holy Spirit the legal means to help and do what is needed to be done in the Believers life because the Believer is glorifying Christ, God's beloved Son in whom He is pleased. You are now operating in the spirit. No Believer can fix the flesh with the flesh. All fruits that are added to the leaves of the Believer most be done by the Holy Spirit or you enter the works of the flesh (Gal. 5:19-21).

The Holy Spirit doesn't require much of us, but He does require one thing, and without reservation.
Our Faith must be exclusively be in Christ and the Cross; understanding that this is God's Prescribed Order of Victory (Rom. 8:2).

The Holy Spirit works strictly within the parameters of the "Finished Work" i.e., "The Cross of Christ" i.e., "The Blood of Jesus;" which demands that our Faith be placed and maintained exclusively in the Cross of Christ. The reason is simple, that's were the price was paid, and the victory was forever won (Romans 6:1-14; 1 Cor. 2:2; Gal. 5; Gal. 6:14; Eph. 2:13-18; Col. 2:14-15).

Victory over sin: Romans 8:2
Victory over the world: Galatians 6:14; 1 John 5:4
Victory over the flesh: Galatians 5:24
Victory over the Devil:
Hebrews 2:14; Colossians 2:15

The Apostle Paul makes it very clear in Romans 8:10 that the physical body, mind / intellect, and the heart (which is evil - Jeremiah 17:9) has been rendered helpless because of the original sin; consequently, the Believer trying to overcome by willpower presents a fruitless task. Only the Holy Spirit can mortify the deeds of the flesh and make us what we ought to be (Romans 8:13). This means we cannot do it ourselves. Once again, He performs all that He does within the confines of the Finished Work of Christ (Romans 8:2).


If a Christian will and their efforts to live for God is in anything except Christ and the Cross, i.e., Finished Work, The Blood of Jesus (Romans 8:2), Satan can override your will and force you to do things you don't want to do and trying not to do (Ephesians 6:12). Jesus said deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow me (Luke 9:23).

Remember our bodies are dead and useless to God. The heart is prone to wander away from God's love and eat from "The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." The reason why the body is dead is because of the effects of the fall has made us totally incapable of yielding spiritual obedience on a regular basis (Jeremiah 13:23). So there must be a source outside of myself that helps me to enter into sanctification which is the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:13).

Note: The Believer must repent not just for the bad they are doing, but also for the good they are doing. Why? Because the Believer can depend on the good to get them through (Jer. 6:13-15). Good things will always follow right living. However, that is not God's way. His way is Faith exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work (Rev. 3:17-22).

How does a Believer maintain Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross? By just believing in Jesus (who He is - John 1:1-14) and what He accomplished at Calvary Cross where the victory was one. Romans 4:5 - Galatians 2:19-21 NKJV - 1 Corinthians 1:18-25 NKJV - Colossians 2:11-15 NKJV

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Where improvement is firstly needed is in what you value - what you give your attention to - the things you think upon and the things you "take in" through what you read or hear. It is not in doing acts of denial or even acts of service.

There is no looking upon self and taking your temperature. It is looking to the ONE - attending to worshiping HIM - meditating on HIS words - and being in HIS presence.

Believe me, you will change. Then all the actions you take will be coming from the new you.
 
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To grow in grace and in the knowledge of Lord Jesus Christ is called sanctification. Romans 4:5 makes it crystal clear that God only awards righteousness to a Believer when their Faith, the size of a mustard seed, is placed and maintained exclusively in His Son Jesus (who He is) and the Cross of Christ, i.e., "The Finished Work," i.e., "The Blood of Jesus" (what He has done). If this is done, the Holy Spirit will take over and do everything that must be done in the Believers life. This is called the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2).
the latter about the Holy Spirit will take over and do everything in a believers life is not good teaching. The Holy Spirit will lead you and guide but you have to follow. there is not a single person on this site who hasn't slipped up made a mistake etc. since they have been saved not a one, because if like you said the Holy Spirit takes over and does everything then we all would be perfect because the Holy Spirit does not make mistakes.
 

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Want to improve myself.
Welcom Marium,

That is fantastic. The first step is to be born again. Please read and study the Gospel of John very carefully and then apply it to yourself.
 
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Read the word of God. Read with the intent to apply the word to your life. Next, stay in a place of prayer. Seek after God. Ask for him to fill you with his spirit.