The Backsliders Thread.

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Socreta93

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Only beers I ever drank was a sip of Ultra Light, tasted horrible and my friend let gave me a cup of bud light. Tasted fine and I wasn't craving more.
 

EarnestQ

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Anyway many times I've sneaked into the back of the city bus without paying.
If I had no money to pay the bus company but needed to get somewhere, I might consider sneaking onto the back of the bus and paying double next time I took the bus. But I also might ask the bus driver if he/she would allow me to ride for free this time if I paid double next time.

But if I had the money, I am confident that God would want me to pay the toll and trust Him to work out the details.

I would be concerned about people seeing me sneak on the bus without paying and then walking into church and seeing me there. They would consider me a hypocrite and probably judge the whole church because of my immoral behavior.

But if I demonstrated honesty and trust for God, that would probably also impress them.
 

EarnestQ

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I have pretty much given up drinking. Alcohol is a neuro-toxin. That means it kills brain cells. I like my brain cells. I don't want to kill them off. I lose enough brain cells every day just cause I'm growing old.
 

un2him

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umm brain cells lost them years ago musta been while trin to pleaz other church goers and be acceptable. Definitely a slider today can relate more to the sinner then most of the church goers I thought I was impressing.
 
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CandieM

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I have pretty much given up drinking. Alcohol is a neuro-toxin. That means it kills brain cells. I like my brain cells. I don't want to kill them off. I lose enough brain cells every day just cause I'm growing old.
I want to do this. See, I'm not at all for taking cannabis for recreational purposes, but I admit that I feel a need for some sort of substance that will help me manage the "issues" that I have. At this point, I don't think I can take much more. Just existing is a struggle. Putting my faith in God, praying, and fasting are all excellent ways to combat life's trials, but I still plan on trying medical marijuana. I'm not the smoking type. Never puffed a cig or a blunt in my life. I don't plan on it.
 

Huckleberry

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.......I still plan on trying medical marijuana.
I can tell you authoritatively that "medical marijuana" is a sham.
Marijuana does not dull or relieve pain or emotional
stress, it enhances them, and it's highly addictive.
 

hornetguy

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I want to do this. See, I'm not at all for taking cannabis for recreational purposes, but I admit that I feel a need for some sort of substance that will help me manage the "issues" that I have. At this point, I don't think I can take much more. Just existing is a struggle. Putting my faith in God, praying, and fasting are all excellent ways to combat life's trials, but I still plan on trying medical marijuana. I'm not the smoking type. Never puffed a cig or a blunt in my life. I don't plan on it.
Our son is a weed smoker, has been for most of his adult life. It seems to help him with his ADD, or whatever he has.

He says that you can buy chocolate candies in Colorado that are made with some form of cannabis. He told me "if you ever try one, don't eat a whole piece. Only eat about half of one... they will 'kick your ass' " He said his mother and father in law split one, and they laughed nearly all night.

I've never really enjoyed what little weed smoking I tried, back in my wilder days. I prefer alcohol for relaxation.... and it only takes one or two drinks to relax. Anything beyond that is getting into "buzzed" territory for me.

You should talk to a doctor about whether a cannabis type of thing would help you. I think it would be vastly preferable to any of the mood altering drugs they are prescribing like candy these days... Those are usually some sort of amphetamine kind of thing, IIRC.

I also believe that any kind of drug taken for depression should only be taken for a limited amount of time, just to take the edge off, so that you can process whatever grief or other issue you have. I don't like the idea of people living on those drugs, year after year.
 

Tommy379

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I want to do this. See, I'm not at all for taking cannabis for recreational purposes, but I admit that I feel a need for some sort of substance that will help me manage the "issues" that I have. At this point, I don't think I can take much more. Just existing is a struggle. Putting my faith in God, praying, and fasting are all excellent ways to combat life's trials, but I still plan on trying medical marijuana. I'm not the smoking type. Never puffed a cig or a blunt in my life. I don't plan on it.
I don't know what your issues are. How about putting on a couple of nicotine patches on. Nicotine is an anti depressant. THC is a depressant. I know the stoners like to say marijuana is the cure for everything, but it isn't. Marijuana causes people to lay around unproductively, eating doritos and drinking mountain dew.
I don't care if weed is legal or not, but it won't fix anything either.
 
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CandieM

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Our son is a weed smoker, has been for most of his adult life. It seems to help him with his ADD, or whatever he has.

He says that you can buy chocolate candies in Colorado that are made with some form of cannabis. He told me "if you ever try one, don't eat a whole piece. Only eat about half of one... they will 'kick your ass' " He said his mother and father in law split one, and they laughed nearly all night.

I've never really enjoyed what little weed smoking I tried, back in my wilder days. I prefer alcohol for relaxation.... and it only takes one or two drinks to relax. Anything beyond that is getting into "buzzed" territory for me.

You should talk to a doctor about whether a cannabis type of thing would help you. I think it would be vastly preferable to any of the mood altering drugs they are prescribing like candy these days... Those are usually some sort of amphetamine kind of thing, IIRC.

I also believe that any kind of drug taken for depression should only be taken for a limited amount of time, just to take the edge off, so that you can process whatever grief or other issue you have. I don't like the idea of people living on those drugs, year after year.

Hey, I'm glad it helps him. :) That's great. I have P.T.S.D and D.I.D. While it's entirely possible that I could have a negative reaction to cannabis and become paranoid, it's a risk I'm willing to take. Alcohol has become a blight in my life. I tend to drink too much of it because I want so desperately to escape certain levels of emotional turmoil that I live with on a regular basis. Addiction seems to be a pattern for people with P.T.S.D and personally, I don't want to feed it.

The neat thing about cannabis is that you get some level of tolerance to it, I think, so that after you feel the intense euphoria, you get this steady-sort of high that keeps you stable. This is what I am hoping for and working towards maintaining. If I can get into this sort of routine, after receiving my medical marijuana card, then I think it may make my life far, far more livable.

I'm wholeheartedly against​ any sort of pharmaceuticals. I'm far more against psychiatric drugs than anything. As far as I'm concerned, I don't even call them 'medicine', but rather, "drugs". I think that anything you take that is generally for your well-being, but ultimately makes you sicker in the long-run isn't really a medicine, but rather, only a poison. Just my take on it. A lot of people are gung-ho on any type of drug their doctor gives them. Me, I don't even see medical doctors. I prefer naturopaths only. If I can't survive beyond the aid of a naturopath, so be it. I'm leaving the rest in God's hands, not that I care very much for this world, anyway.

Thanks for sharing what your son said about cannabis. :) I find it very helpful.
 
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CandieM

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I don't know what your issues are. How about putting on a couple of nicotine patches on. Nicotine is an anti depressant. THC is a depressant. I know the stoners like to say marijuana is the cure for everything, but it isn't. Marijuana causes people to lay around unproductively, eating doritos and drinking mountain dew.
I don't care if weed is legal or not, but it won't fix anything either.
I don't need an anti-depressant. I need something for post-traumatic stress. Cannabis is good for a few things, but not everything; there's also no guarantee that it will even work for me, either. I won't sit here and say that it will because it may blow up in my face. If that's the case, then I'll live and I'll learn. I can also use C.B.D, which is natural and does not make you high like T.H.C. Plenty of people use C.B.D and they have wonderful results. I refuse drugs, 100%, period, and I'm lucky that I have that right.
 
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CandieM

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I can tell you authoritatively that "medical marijuana" is a sham.
Marijuana does not dull or relieve pain or emotional
stress, it enhances them, and it's highly addictive.
I guess I'll see what happens when I try it. There's also C.B.D. It isn't T.H.C at all and it does help people. I spoke with a professional about it and he highly recommended it for people with P.T.S.D. Maybe that's my best route ─ I don't know yet. I'll live and learn.

Thank you for your input and I'll keep it in mind.
 

Tommy379

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CandieM.....

You just wrote that alcohol has become a blight, and you tend to drink too much. How will medical marijuana be any different?

There is no real physiological treatment for PTSD. All treatments involve psychotherapy, and a any medicines prescribed are to treat depression, which is a symptom of PTSD.

CBD may help, but isn't well studied, and the plant it's derived from is illegal in the United States, so what would be the real quality of it? That product currently has to be made in clandestine operations, or smuggled into the country.
 
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CandieM

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CandieM.....

You just wrote that alcohol has become a blight, and you tend to drink too much. How will medical marijuana be any different?

There is no real physiological treatment for PTSD. All treatments involve psychotherapy, and a any medicines prescribed are to treat depression, which is a symptom of PTSD.

CBD may help, but isn't well studied, and the plant it's derived from is illegal in the United States, so what would be the real quality of it? That product currently has to be made in clandestine operations, or smuggled into the country.
Don't ask me. I haven't tried it, yet.

That's the tricky thing about P.T.S.D. It pretty much rules your life. The inability to handle trauma ends up being a life-destroyer. As far as forms of therapy are concerned, talking about it never really did anything for me. That's my personal experience, not word-of-mouth. Been in therapy off-and-on since I was 3 or 4 years old(?) At this point in my life, after having it for so many years, the only thing I care about is stabilizing myself so I can function normally enough to have a job, earn a living, and eventually rent my own home so I can be on my own. That's all I can do.

Yeah, I'm not sure about this. I have emailed a man who has spoken to me about this and I'm fairly sure he mentioned that his products are legal and super-beneficial, in many ways. One way is that it treats pain. If you'd like me to PM you his email address, let me know and I can do that. Can't advertise in here, but I will be happy to give you his business email. Up to you.
 
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CandieM

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Edit:

The scary thing about anti-depressants is that they are notorious for making depression even worse. The side-effects for anti-depressants don't seem worth the risk of even taking them, as is the case for many psychiatric drugs. Really, when people take them, they are risking their health more than anything. One day I hope humanity realizes what it's doing to itself before it's too late and we're all too sick to do anything about it. This is why I'm hugely against psych-drugs. Personally, I think they're awful. Want nothing to do with any of them.

Five-minute rule. :/
 

tourist

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Edit:

The scary thing about anti-depressants is that they are notorious for making depression even worse. The side-effects for anti-depressants don't seem worth the risk of even taking them, as is the case for many psychiatric drugs. Really, when people take them, they are risking their health more than anything. One day I hope humanity realizes what it's doing to itself before it's too late and we're all too sick to do anything about it. This is why I'm hugely against psych-drugs. Personally, I think they're awful. Want nothing to do with any of them.

Five-minute rule. :/
Sounds similar to the five-second rule.
 
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CandieM

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Sounds similar to the five-second rule.
I try not to follow that rule. It's entirely possible to pick up germs just about anywhere these days.

Sometimes I need to edit more than once.
 

tourist

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I try not to follow that rule. It's entirely possible to pick up germs just about anywhere these days.

Sometimes I need to edit more than once.
I really don't follow that rule either. If what I drop on the floor doesn't have dirt on it then it's probably good to go. I guess it depends on how clean the floor is.

I try to squeeze any editing in during the allowed 5 minutes but if I don't have enough time I will cut what I have, delete the post, and paste in a new post and continue to edit.

Actually, I almost always would never eat stuff off the floor unless I drop a whole orange or something like that.

You are correct about germs too. :)
 
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CandieM

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My general conclusion is that it doesn't matter if it's a highly educated person, a well-read person, a person of average intelligence, or a stupid person: people seem to grapple with the truth because maybe there isn't a well-established truth about a particular topic. Maybe what seems like a lot of truths are muddled opinions that are disguised as truths. How far that rabbit hole goes, I don't know, and something tells me that don't want to know. Maybe there are elite people out there who can control who knows the truth, if anyone, or if there is even a truth at all. Maybe it's human nature that this happens and people can't find a stable truth to hold onto. Maybe it's because truths change. What if what we think we know isn't the truth, or what if it was the truth, but it isn't the truth anymore? Who knows?

It's just interesting to think about is all.
 

Tommy379

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Don't ask me. I haven't tried it, yet.

That's the tricky thing about P.T.S.D. It pretty much rules your life. The inability to handle trauma ends up being a life-destroyer. As far as forms of therapy are concerned, talking about it never really did anything for me. That's my personal experience, not word-of-mouth. Been in therapy off-and-on since I was 3 or 4 years old(?) At this point in my life, after having it for so many years, the only thing I care about is stabilizing myself so I can function normally enough to have a job, earn a living, and eventually rent my own home so I can be on my own. That's all I can do.

Yeah, I'm not sure about this. I have emailed a man who has spoken to me about this and I'm fairly sure he mentioned that his products are legal and super-beneficial, in many ways. One way is that it treats pain. If you'd like me to PM you his email address, let me know and I can do that. Can't advertise in here, but I will be happy to give you his business email. Up to you.
I would implore you to be careful about this man you emailed. I just looked up CBD, it is a schedule 1 drug in the Federal statues. Meaning it is not legal in the United States, any state or political subdivision, nor any territory of the US.

Here is an article I found about it:
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2017/02/06/cannabidiol-illegal-and-always-has-been/

I'm not saying it's right, it just is.