Noose,
Thank you for replying. Yes, you are welcome and invited to comment. Please forgive the brevity.
Example #1, misses both clarifications of 1 Corinthians 14:2 about speaking in tongues. A) Not speaking to men. B) No man understands him.
Example #2 also misses both clarifications of what speaking in tongues is, but you did get it right as far as the speaker goes... He is uttering language(s) that he himself doesn't understand. (And you are giving an accurate explanation of what I understand to be the gift of diversities of tongues, which is speaking in earthly languages not because you've learned them but directly by unction of the Holy Ghost)
1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
Thanks.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
Thank you for replying. Yes, you are welcome and invited to comment. Please forgive the brevity.
Example #1, misses both clarifications of 1 Corinthians 14:2 about speaking in tongues. A) Not speaking to men. B) No man understands him.
Example #2 also misses both clarifications of what speaking in tongues is, but you did get it right as far as the speaker goes... He is uttering language(s) that he himself doesn't understand. (And you are giving an accurate explanation of what I understand to be the gift of diversities of tongues, which is speaking in earthly languages not because you've learned them but directly by unction of the Holy Ghost)
1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
Thanks.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
1 Cor 14: 1Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy. 2For anyone who speaks in a tongue[SUP]a[/SUP] does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. 3But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort. 4Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church. 5I would like every one of you to speak in tongues,[SUP]b[/SUP] but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues,[SUP]c[/SUP] unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.
6[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? [/FONT]7[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the pipe or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? [/FONT]8[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? [/FONT]9[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. [/FONT]10[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. [/FONT]11[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me. [/FONT]12[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]So it is with you. Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those that build up the church.[/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What Paul is referring to in the first part is this:[/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rom 8:[/FONT]26In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know how we ought to pray, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groans too deep for words. 27[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Even though Paul refers to this as speaking in tongues, this is a personal affair. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The scam that people do today, is what Paul was refuting in the second part of 1 Cor 14. It doesn't edify the church in anyway.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Don't be alarmed when i call it a scam, i have done my research and i know of what i'm speaking of. These are some facts that show it is a scam and not mysteries:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1. Mysteries of God can not be put in a program; The so called tongues being spoken today are uttered on Sundays, at around 0900hrs during the prayers and petitions program just before tithe giving program. It also means, it is initiated by the preacher and there's someone checking their watch the tongues won't go 10 minutes longer than the schedule. IOW, "..today, we will delay speaking in tongues by 10 minutes because our visitors took more time.."[/FONT]
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2. The words are clearly crammed and stored safely somewhere in our brains to be unleashed on Sunday at 0900hrs. It will always start with a B and end with an O for one person, and always start with a K and end with a T for another, but of course they throw some Rs and Zs in between, if you have ever noticed. Means, each person has their own specific way of speaking the 'mysteries' but the mysteries seem to be the same week in, week out.
[/FONT]Please, don't associate such with God.
And concerning speaking of known language but being heard in different languages by hearers:
Acts 2:7In wonder and amazement, they asked, “Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? 8How is it then that each of us hears them in his own native language? 9Parthians, Medes, and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,