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[Israel]

Great post WomanLovesTX!!

I do think the mark of the beast will be the RFID chip.. because If you knew the NEW WORLD ORDER PLANS.. you would understand why they want to implant RFID chips in humans, and get rid of money as it is right now..
if you don't accept to have the chip, you would not be able to buy or sell (cause there will not be any kind of money) and you would not be able to live in the society unless you accept to get the chip..
you would probably need it to get inside of some places and even to be able to work! so...
in my opinion if the RFID chip is the mark of the beast or not..we still should reject the project they have and never ever accept to have a chip inside our bodies where they can track us every move we make..
let us not become more sheeple than we already are since they have been conditioning us for years through the media and all the systems!

BTW
Here is the video you were talking about:
YouTube - IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market


NWO PLANS:

ONE World Government
ONE World Currency
ONE World Religion (the antichrist)

if you don't believe me look at the USA dollar.. it is written all there!!

I know of the new world order. Given that, the new world order also knows what's in the Bible as well. If they indeed introduce a micro-chip into society, it will only be to play on the fear of the world. But my Bible says to respect authority. Now whether I choose to get the chip or not, is a decision I will have to make but it has nothing to do with the mark. Think about it. How can this chip harm a true law abiding, honest working god- fearing human being? We are already in a world religion. The religion of division! Jesus said that no house divided against itself can stand and indeed, this world religious system will fall!

 

[Shard]

I know of the new world order. Given that, the new world order also knows what's in the Bible as well. If they indeed introduce a micro-chip into society, it will only be to play on the fear of the world. But my Bible says to respect authority. Now whether I choose to get the chip or not, is a decision I will have to make but it has nothing to do with the mark. Think about it. How can this chip harm a true law abiding, honest working god- fearing human being? We are already in a world religion. The religion of division! Jesus said that no house divided against itself can stand and indeed, this world religious system will fall!

Wait is this a christian site or conspiracy theory site?

 

[zone]

Wait is this a christian site or conspiracy theory site?

there are lots of other threads if you aren't into this one friend

 

[Cleante]

The number 666 and its variant 616 can refer to Nero and Domitian, not just some microchip. The modern, www., can even be rendered into 666.

Neron Kaiser transliterated into Hebrew will render 666.
The Latin, Nero Caesar, transliterated into Hebrew will render 616.

It's plausible and more likely that the number refers to Emperor Domitian, the emperor who ruled during St. John of Patmos' life-time. On the Roman coins of the time, his official title Autokrator Kaisar Dometianos Sebastos Germanikos was rendered as A KAI ΔOMET ΣEB ΓE for short. Therefore, it was linked to commerce. You had to use coins to buy things. A KAI ΔOMET ΣEB ΓE in Greek gematria is 666.

Α Κ Α Ι Δ Ο M Ε Τ Σ Ε Β Γ E TOTAL
1 20 1 10 4 70 40 5 300 200 5 2 3 5 666

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Cleante's historical insights are acknowledged; however, I find none of the solutions I have heard completely satisfactory. Perhaps 666 may indicate that the person will be a parody of Christ. He will not come up to perfection, but as the prostitute of Revelation 17 mimics the faithful woman of Revelation 12 and the dragon in Revelation 12 mimics Christ in Revelation 19, so the beast mimics the incarnate Christ, being the embodiment of evil (the devil not being capable of true incarnation). Beyond this we can only observe that when such a personage appears, those who are wise in John’s terms (which means first of all that they have divine insight) will recognize him and see that 666 does indeed fit.

 

[FrostyInc]

The number 666 and its variant 616 can refer to Nero and Domitian, not just some microchip. The modern, www., can even be rendered into 666.

Wait, how can www be rendered into 666?

 

[JessLovesYahweh]

Wait is this a christian site or conspiracy theory site?

this is a christian Chat.. and it shows that you know nothing about the NWO and its not just a theory.. sadly.. it has a LOT to do with christians because the luciferians are behind the NWO and their number 1 enemy are the christians.. the New Age Agenda only wants to deny Jesus Christ.. saying he didn't even exist.. (watch Zeitgest and you'll see how they compare Jesus to Horus and others..)

they will bring the Antichrist Maitreya which is ALREADY being advertised on CNN and other USA channels.. look it up if you dont believe me..
im not trying to talk about 'conspiracy theory'.. im talking about not trusting the RFID chip.. it's just not natural to have chips implanted on us and they would track us everywhere..
I mean come on..

just saying though.. better be informed..

and it's fine if any of you think its not the mark of the beast.. to me it is..(so far) but that's just my opinion..

PEACE & LIGHT

 

[charisenexcelcis]

The number 666 and its variant 616 can refer to Nero and Domitian, not just some microchip. The modern, www., can even be rendered into 666.

Neron Kaiser transliterated into Hebrew will render 666.
The Latin, Nero Caesar, transliterated into Hebrew will render 616.

It's plausible and more likely that the number refers to Emperor Domitian, the emperor who ruled during St. John of Patmos' life-time. On the Roman coins of the time, his official title Autokrator Kaisar Dometianos Sebastos Germanikos was rendered as A KAI ΔOMET ΣEB ΓE for short. Therefore, it was linked to commerce. You had to use coins to buy things. A KAI ΔOMET ΣEB ΓE in Greek gematria is 666.

I think that the Caesar (whichever) that was immediately referred to, as well as Antiochus Epiphanes are two of the "five that were", in effect, prototype Antichrists. I think the 666 is symbolic of the false trinity of Satan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet, six being the number of man (from which day man was created).

 

[Cleante]

Wait, how can www be rendered into 666?

W corresponds to the Hebrew letter vav, ו. Vav is the sixth letter in the alphabet. Joined together it becomes 666. I'm just showing how easy it is render anything as 666...

 

[WomanLovesTX]

EMPTY SEAT NUMBER 666​

The Vacant Seat Number 666 in the European Parliament

"Definitely something to keep an eye one."



http://kittykit.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/the-vacant-seat-number-666-in-the-european-parliament/​

http://israeliranwar2008.blogspot.com/2008/08/recommendation-666vacant-seat-666-and.html​

http://www.jonathanselby.com/EU666.html​

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/seat_666.htm​

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=666​

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[zone]

The number 666 and its variant 616 can refer to Nero and Domitian, not just some microchip. The modern, www., can even be rendered into 666.

Neron Kaiser transliterated into Hebrew will render 666.
The Latin, Nero Caesar, transliterated into Hebrew will render 616.

It's plausible and more likely that the number refers to Emperor Domitian, the emperor who ruled during St. John of Patmos' life-time. On the Roman coins of the time, his official title Autokrator Kaisar Dometianos Sebastos Germanikos was rendered as A KAI ΔOMET ΣEB ΓE for short. Therefore, it was linked to commerce. You had to use coins to buy things. A KAI ΔOMET ΣEB ΓE in Greek gematria is 666.

so, Cleante:
if these things have been fulfilled, what remains?
z

 

[FrostyInc]

W corresponds to the Hebrew letter vav, ו. Vav is the sixth letter in the alphabet. Joined together it becomes 666. I'm just showing how easy it is render anything as 666...

Alright, that's what I thought you were talking about. However that's just not how gematria works. 6+6+6=18 not 6+6+6=666.

 

[Shard]

well I was born on November 23 1983. so 11-23-1983 soo using each number in my brithdate (2x3x1=6) (8-1-1=6) (9-3=6) OH NOES it's 666

Look I could possibly be the antichrist.

Seriously number games and stuff are not that accurate for...anything?

 

[phil36]

Thanks for your insights cleante

blessings

Phil

 

[zone]

well I was born on November 23 1983. so 11-23-1983 soo using each number in my brithdate (2x3x1=6) (8-1-1=6) (9-3=6) OH NOES it's 666

Look I could possibly be the antichrist.

Seriously number games and stuff are not that accurate for...anything?

there are lots of other threads if you are not interested in this one

 

[Cleante]

so, Cleante:
if these things have been fulfilled, what remains?
z

If you want to know what remains in my opinion, look to the Orthodox interpretation of Revelations.

Eastern Orthodoxy treats the text as simultaneously describing contemporaneous events and as prophecy of events to come, for which the contemporaneous events were a form of foreshadow. It rejects attempts to determine, before the fact, if the events of Revelation are occurring by mapping them onto present-day events, taking to heart the Scriptural warning against those who proclaim "He is here!" prematurely. Instead, the book is seen as a warning to be spiritually and morally ready for the end times, whenever they may come ("as a thief in the night"), but they will come at the time of God's choosing, not something that can be precipitated nor trivially deduced by mortals.[56] This view is also held by many Catholics, although there is a diversity of opinion about the nature of the Apocalypse within Catholicism.

 

[Shard]

there are lots of other threads if you are not interested in this one

Sorry I was actually pointing out the friviolity of making guesses based on numerical tricks

 

[mpaper345]

9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition(Revelation chapter 17:9-11).


In the book of Revelation chapter 12 it says the crowns are on the 7 heads which means that Satan is operating in the physical deceiving the world by the 7 world powers that precede the 10 horn kingdom.


In the book of Revelation chapter 13 it says the crowns are on the 10 horns which is the world divided in to 10 sections with a ruler in each section,which will rule for the first half of the 7 years tribulation period.The 10 horns will hand their power over to the antichrist so they will have the same agenda as the antichrist.The crowns are on the 10 horns which means that Satan is operating in the natural as the antichrist.


The 7 heads,which are kings,are the 7 world powers that operate before the Satan appears as the antichrist who is the 8th king.


The 5 that are fallen are 1.Egypt 2.Assyria 3.Babylon 4.Medo-Persia 5.Greece.


The one that is,is the Roman Empire,which was the world power in operation when John received Revelation.


The one that is to come but will continue for a short space is the 10 horn kingdom,who will rule for the first half of the 7 years tribulation period,only 3 and one half years,a short space.


The antichrist is the 8th king who will rule for the last half of the tribulation,3 and one half years.


The Bible says that the 8th king is of the 7 kings which means that however those 7 world powers operated was not the will of God and of the devil.


In the book of Revelation we see that the head of the beast was wounded and healed which means that the 10 horn kingdom will not be able to solve the problems of the world and will suffer a crippling blow but the antichrist will claim to be God and will recover this fall and give people hope that all will be alright.
During the first half of the tribulation a 200,000,000 men army will make war with the world in which nuclear weapons will be used.This army that makes war with the world will be the Islam community.
This war will cause the death of one third of the world's population,and will be so terrible of a war that it will leave the world partial crippled and will cause the world to think that the 10 horn kingdom cannot handle the problems of the world.


The world will cry out for a solution and God said they will not turn to Him and repent of their evil deeds so God gives them the antichrist.


The 10 horn kingdom,the 7th head,is wounded,but the antichrist recovers that loss by telling the world that everything is alright and they can still solve their problems and stop the fighting on earth.


The 10 horn kingdom,the 7th head,is wounded and healed,and the devil is of the 7 heads,the 7 world powers prior to the antichrist.


Matt

 

[mpaper345]

9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition(Revelation chapter 17:9-11).


In the book of Revelation chapter 12 it says the crowns are on the 7 heads which means that Satan is operating in the spiritual deceiving the world by the 7 world powers that precede the 10 horn kingdom.


In the book of Revelation chapter 13 it says the crowns are on the 10 horns which is the world divided in to 10 sections with a ruler in each section,which will rule for the first half of the 7 years tribulation period.The 10 horns will hand their power over to the antichrist so they will have the same agenda as the antichrist.The crowns are on the 10 horns which means that Satan is operating in the natural as the antichrist.


The 7 heads,which are kings,are the 7 world powers that operate before the Satan appears as the antichrist who is the 8th king.


The 5 that are fallen are 1.Egypt 2.Assyria 3.Babylon 4.Medo-Persia 5.Greece.


The one that is,is the Roman Empire,which was the world power in operation when John received Revelation.


The one that is to come but will continue for a short space is the 10 horn kingdom,who will rule for the first half of the 7 years tribulation period,only 3 and one half years,a short space.


The antichrist is the 8th king who will rule for the last half of the tribulation,3 and one half years.


The Bible says that the 8th king is of the 7 kings which means that however those 7 world powers operated was not the will of God and of the devil.


In the book of Revelation we see that the head of the beast was wounded and healed which means that the 10 horn kingdom will not be able to solve the problems of the world and will suffer a crippling blow but the antichrist will claim to be God and will recover this fall and give people hope that all will be alright.
During the first half of the tribulation a 200,000,000 men army will make war with the world in which nuclear weapons will be used.This army that makes war with the world will be the Islam community.
This war will cause the death of one third of the world's population,and will be so terrible of a war that it will leave the world partial crippled and will cause the world to think that the 10 horn kingdom cannot handle the problems of the world.


The world will cry out for a solution and God said they will not turn to Him and repent of their evil deeds so God gives them the antichrist.


The 10 horn kingdom,the 7th head,is wounded,but the antichrist recovers that loss by telling the world that everything is alright and they can still solve their problems and stop the fighting on earth.


The 10 horn kingdom,the 7th head,is wounded and healed,and the devil is of the 7 heads,the 7 world powers prior to the antichrist.


Matt

 

[zone]

If you want to know what remains in my opinion, look to the Orthodox interpretation of Revelations.

Eastern Orthodoxy treats the text as simultaneously describing contemporaneous events and as prophecy of events to come, for which the contemporaneous events were a form of foreshadow. It rejects attempts to determine, before the fact, if the events of Revelation are occurring by mapping them onto present-day events, taking to heart the Scriptural warning against those who proclaim "He is here!" prematurely. Instead, the book is seen as a warning to be spiritually and morally ready for the end times, whenever they may come ("as a thief in the night"), but they will come at the time of God's choosing, not something that can be precipitated nor trivially deduced by mortals.[56] This view is also held by many Catholics, although there is a diversity of opinion about the nature of the Apocalypse within Catholicism.

okay, thanks.

a couple of problems:

saying "He is here" has nothing to do with watching for unfolding events in real time. in fact, that's one of the things we are to watch for!

anyone who understands the simplicity of the sequence of events, if not the precise details or exact personalities knows that the Second Coming will begin with the biggest cosmic show in man's history, followed by Jesus coming in GLORY and every eye will see Him. that happens at the end of all the other stuff.

i just don't get this kind of reasoning. it's a little suspect, i must say. to say this: [the end times]" will come at the time of God's choosing, not something that can be precipitated nor trivially deduced by mortals" is just not true. not even remotely. i'll say it again: read Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.

the other problem is that the "end times" don't come as a thief in the night, the Day of The Lord does FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW HIM. there'll be nothing secret about it.

anyways, thanks for replying.
zone