What does Paul mean by “women will be saved through childbearing”?

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Ralph- said:
I'm liking the 'continuing' part. Only those who continue to have faith will be saved when Jesus comes back.

Women who don't walk in the obedience to care for their families have denied the faith.
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That's completely different than bearing children.
 
Ralph- said:
Have they done so in love and continuing faith in holiness and self restraint? Read the passage.

Childbearing is a metonymy. A figure of speech for the God given role of women in this life through which she is to express her life in Christ in love and faith and holiness with self restraint. Women who do that have a living faith--the faith that saves.
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No it's not metonymy. You just read that somewhere and agree with it for some reason.
 
Ralph- said:
Paul said that only some people will have the gift of singleness like he does. And he makes it clear that people are not sinning if they get married and have kids. In fact, that exactly what he tells young widows to do:

"I want younger widows to get married, bear children, keep house, and give the enemy no occasion for reproach"-1 Timothy 5:14

And we know he wants believers to get married if they can not control themselves. So we have plenty of evidence that he would in fact mean that women are saved through the obedience of faith connected with the duties and responsibilities of being a women who marries and has kids. Because faith without works is dead and can not save.
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Paul did say that it was his wish that all remain single like he was but he never referred to this type of existence as a gift. Seems more like a curse to me.
 
posthuman said:
yes but the correlation presented here in the scripture isn't 'love your wives as the Father loves the Son' -- it's as Christ loves the church.
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Mankind alone is created as one creation. Other beasts of the field he made them separately... male and female. (two creations).

Together it is picture of Christ coming for his bride the church. It is the whole theme of the Bible . God uses two immutable attributes, a father and son . Two are needed to represent a loving government. One( the Father) being in a greater position but not greater authority or greater person . Its two working together in mutual love and submission to one another that does bring the peace of God that does surpass of human understanding .

Its not wives "love your husbands" as they lord it over the wife . Husbands seen represent Christ not seen.

The first century reformation changed the old order of a tyrant kind government . No more wives under the thumb. Again, it is the peace of God (the Father and the Son) uses two.... that surpasses our human understanding

Its Christ, the Holy Spirit of God not seen living in a corrupted body as the Son of man as that seen a represented temporal glory to represent the husband and his love for the church the bride. (male and female new creature )

When He left never to return again for another outward demonstration of the work of pouring out his Spirit not seen . He left man to represent Christ as a representative glory.

Man as a representative glory must not cover his head of hair seeing he represent Christ our head, not seen . Man who represents Christ as the husband of His bride the church has given man a glory, the woman . She is not left without a representative glory, "her own her hair", it must be covered so that the only glory seen when men and woman gather together is the representative glory sen by faith. That glory that is veiled in these earthen bodies of death with be removed when His bride the church receives her new incorruptible body .

The whole new ceremonial law is used as a shadow showing the reformed government where before the reformation Men and woman were not allowed to celebrate it together (woman could not enter that part of the sanctuary)

Much has been lost in the ceremonial law .Its in most cases dismissed as a sign of the culture as hair styles change form one generation to the next
 
tourist said:
Paul did say that it was his wish that all remain single like he was but he never referred to this type of existence as a gift.
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"7Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am (celibate). However, each man has his own gift from God"-1 Corinthians 7:7
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
...bearing children is somehow tied to salvation.
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If you can understand how water baptism saves (1 Peter 3:21), which I think you can, then you can understand how childbearing saves (1 Timothy 2:15), even though there have been people who had done neither but who were saved nonetheless.
 
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Ralph- said:
If you can understand how water baptism saves (1 Peter 3:21), which I think you can, then you can understand how childbearing saves (1 Timothy 2:15), even though there have been people who had done neither but who were saved nonetheless.
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Oh boy.

Well as I mentioned earlier I’m doomed as I have no children.
I suppose all men are doomed as well.
Not to mention children who die before they reach child bearing age.
 
IMO Paul simply was saying that even though sin was birthed into the world through woman, women who continue in faith will be saved from a consequence of that screwup, i.e., death from childbirth.
 
Ralph- said:
"7Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am (celibate). However, each man has his own gift from God"-1 Corinthians 7:7
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The verse you provided does seem to indicate that being single could be considered a gift, but depending on one's perspective it could indeed prove to be a curse. Regardless, I would not pray for such a gift for someone else as the recipient may live a lonely and isolated existence. Still, good job with providing this verse. I concede that you are correct on this point. Actually, you are correct on a lot of other biblical points as well.
 
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Miri said:
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Oh boy.

Well as I mentioned earlier I’m doomed as I have no children.
I suppose all men are doomed as well.
Not to mention children who die before they reach child bearing age.
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Yeah, being a guy I'm probably a goner. ;)
 
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tourist said:
The verse you provided does seem to indicate that being single could be considered a gift, but depending on one's perspective it could indeed prove to be a curse.
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I'm guessing that if someone saw being single as a curse then they probably do not have the gift of celibacy that Paul is talking about.
 
Miri said:
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Oh boy.

Well as I mentioned earlier I’m doomed as I have no children.
I suppose all men are doomed as well.
Not to mention children who die before they reach child bearing age.
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I suppose if Paul meant it that way that would be true.
 
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