Are Roman Catholics Christians
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lol are you kidding me? Where did you get this fun fact? A cereal box? Organized Christianity (as we know it) stems all from Catholicism. Everything started from there. Protestantism derived from Catholicism. I love how I too was sold this idea of protestants being "superior" in faith and character since them Catholics were so "lost."
The true early Christians were all killed off and persecuted for a reason......
I agree with what you have said, especially the first part of your sentence...sort of.
Some doctrine is important. It's crucial.
But a complete theological scaffolding tends to do something odd. It either becomes too...lenient, or it becomes too merciless.
There are always verses and then there are verses that pull against them. And when men try to build something that answers every single question about God, they tip too far one way. I don't know why...
Some doctrine is important. It's crucial.
But a complete theological scaffolding tends to do something odd. It either becomes too...lenient, or it becomes too merciless.
There are always verses and then there are verses that pull against them. And when men try to build something that answers every single question about God, they tip too far one way. I don't know why...
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Dude, you keep saying the same thing over and over again. You don't realize that it actually isn't that simple right?
If it were that simple, even the sinfulness of man would not be able to complicate the message, it would be on a whole other level of transcendence. But it is not. People are still confused by it, no matter how much they understand the concept of "sin" and accept it.
These blanket statements may work for your common Sunday church goer, but when you try to use these lines with people that have lived on both sides of the faith and actually educate themselves with the content, history, and study, this won't work.
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Let me put it this way so you can see the irony in this mess.
God, the all knowing timeless being which far surpasses all understanding. He was, is and is to come. Never changing, completely omniscient, omnipotent and all powerful. His intellect and creativity is something that cannot be conceived within the human futile mind. By the way, this book(bible) here tells exactly everything about God and who he is, come learn about him, we'll teach ya.
#80 say sacred tradition and scripture from the same divine well spring
That is lie, if come from the same source must inline each other. The fact is, there is no biblical base for tradition. If you study bible, Paul not Peter founded the Church of Rome, tradition lie and say Peter in Rome from 32 to 67.
Pope urban say Mary want you to believe private revelation
Where in the Bible Mary ask you to believe private revelation, and he say if proven to false, still gave you a blessing.
How God revelation have possibility false?
And how false revelation bless you
Normal man with normal logical thinking level know this is lie.
That is lie, if come from the same source must inline each other. The fact is, there is no biblical base for tradition. If you study bible, Paul not Peter founded the Church of Rome, tradition lie and say Peter in Rome from 32 to 67.
Pope urban say Mary want you to believe private revelation
Where in the Bible Mary ask you to believe private revelation, and he say if proven to false, still gave you a blessing.
How God revelation have possibility false?
And how false revelation bless you
Normal man with normal logical thinking level know this is lie.
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No i am Not kidding you, but the catholic church evidently has you fooled.
Organized christianity was never a thing God intended, he started a body, a group of local churches which started in jerusalem and reached the world known to rome, it looked nothing like the catholic church, all i have t do is look at Gods word, and see what they did, and what they tought, then walk into a catholic temple (which i have numerous times)to realise they look nothing alike.
Oh and ps, please do not call me a protestant, in order for me to protest a church i have to consider it a church,
I am a child of God and who gave me that right? Well according t john the only people given that right are those who recieve HIM, which i have,
Oh and by the way, the roman church killed or imrisoned anyone who did not agree with her for centuris, and it burned any books or writtings of any people who did not agree with her, when did God tell the church to do this?
Organized christianity was never a thing God intended, he started a body, a group of local churches which started in jerusalem and reached the world known to rome, it looked nothing like the catholic church, all i have t do is look at Gods word, and see what they did, and what they tought, then walk into a catholic temple (which i have numerous times)to realise they look nothing alike.
Oh and ps, please do not call me a protestant, in order for me to protest a church i have to consider it a church,
I am a child of God and who gave me that right? Well according t john the only people given that right are those who recieve HIM, which i have,
Oh and by the way, the roman church killed or imrisoned anyone who did not agree with her for centuris, and it burned any books or writtings of any people who did not agree with her, when did God tell the church to do this?
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Exactly My point.........
You base all of your beliefs solely on the bible and nothing else.
Whether you attend an organized church of some sort or not, you are still using the same guide book.
I know the Catholic church is a farce. I know what their motives and agenda was/is.
Ironically it doesn't just stop at the catholic church.... Who do you think is responsible for the cannon on your night stand??
Men have and will continue to impose their will and agendas on "God".
Where else do you think they received the authority to conduct all of their massive conquests and killings? They claimed it was God's will, all done in the name of God.
Point is that you are still using their book.... yet claim you have nothing to do with them.
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Apparently the Holy spirit tells people to start different churches based on different interpretations all the time...
I wonder if maybe, just maybe, this Holy Spirit might just be highly customizable so much so that varieties of it exist and the evidence is plentiful... Hence the different denominations etc...
Truth is objective. Like saying Ice is frozen and Fire is hot....
Objectivity in the church is not really there, subjectivity is what you find..
I wonder if maybe, just maybe, this Holy Spirit might just be highly customizable so much so that varieties of it exist and the evidence is plentiful... Hence the different denominations etc...
Truth is objective. Like saying Ice is frozen and Fire is hot....
Objectivity in the church is not really there, subjectivity is what you find..