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Acts 19
17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
Why would Peter tell others to be baptize if he himself was not?
17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
Why would Peter tell others to be baptize if he himself was not?
Originally Posted by forerunner
Acts 19
17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
Acts 19
17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
Why would Peter tell others to be baptize if he himself was not?
Hey, I would not forbid one from being baptized, and if asked, I would baptize them in Jesus' name. But I will not tell one who is not baptized that they are not saved, any more than I would tell another that they are not saved unless they believe in the trinity.
Things do not make up salvation. Salvation is new life from above, because we choose to believe God about His love for us in Jesus Christ. Salvation is about God asking us to become His children, born again of Him. Salvation is about us drawing near to God. It is not a set of rules or things we must do, but is rather receiving life from above. Jesus said that everyone who lives and believes in Him shall never die. Salvation is eternal life.
Things do not make up salvation. Salvation is new life from above, because we choose to believe God about His love for us in Jesus Christ. Salvation is about God asking us to become His children, born again of Him. Salvation is about us drawing near to God. It is not a set of rules or things we must do, but is rather receiving life from above. Jesus said that everyone who lives and believes in Him shall never die. Salvation is eternal life.
C
Well, in DMurray's viewpoint, water baptism (in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ) is one of three essential elements of salvation, along with repentence and baptism in the Holy Spirit (as shown by the glossalia). Odd that if that were true, one of the two most important figures in the book of Acts and the one most refered to in defense of the Oneness formula for baptism has no record of his own baptism.
How do you justify the above? We are not talking about refusing to receive baptism, but making it a requirement of salvation, and that is not supported even in scripture. It is not written that we must get baptized, or we will not be saved. In fact, there is only one, just one thing we are told we must do or have to be saved. If you do not have the Holy Spirit, then you are none of His.
One should receive baptism when they are ready to. Not as a requirement for salvation, but as a testimony to a clean conscience.
One should receive baptism when they are ready to. Not as a requirement for salvation, but as a testimony to a clean conscience.
David, I know that when you refer to "Oneness" teaching you are probably accurately representing the views of major oneness groups, particularly the UPCI. I'm not, never have been, and never will be part of the UPCI. In part, this is because they distort salvation to require works that amount to jumping through hoops. Obviously, however, I hold to some form of Oneness teaching and belief. Can I ask you to qualify your statements about Oneness teachings to read something more like "some" or "most" oneness believe...(whatever it is you are refering to). Otherwise it is kind of like me saying "trinitarians believe baptism isn't "right" unless done in the Triune name". Some believe this, others, like yourself, believe that the formula is less important than the heart and obedience. Since I'm the most active Oneness adherent on this thread, I want the clarification of "some" so as not to be grouped in with beliefs I don't agree with.